• Re: Interlagos (may be a

    From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to WOOZY SONG on Tue Nov 12 10:07:00 2024
    Many years ago, when Michael Schummacher was driving and, IIRC, Fernando Alonso was young, they had a heck of a wet race at the same facility.

    I remember it because I believe they both crashed out.

    2003 was pretty bad, cars aquaplaning off left, right and centre. It was abandoned after 56 laps, and Jordan ended up winning.

    Yes, that is the one I was thinking about. It was a very wet and crazy
    race.


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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Dumas Walker on Tue Nov 12 09:56:42 2024
    On 2024-11-11 13:07, Dumas Walker wrote:
    Many years ago, when Michael Schummacher was driving and, IIRC, Fernando >>> Alonso was young, they had a heck of a wet race at the same facility.

    I remember it because I believe they both crashed out.

    2003 was pretty bad, cars aquaplaning off left, right and centre. It was
    abandoned after 56 laps, and Jordan ended up winning.

    Yes, that is the one I was thinking about. It was a very wet and crazy
    race.


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    The basic issue is that the technology has outstripped safety when
    there's too much rain.

    Yes: they can bolt on the extreme wets, but they throw so much water
    into the air, that the drivers simply can't see far enough ahead.

    I've raced in the wet with far less capable tires than F1 has and
    without the aero bits that help to throw the spray up even more, and I
    can honestly say there have been times when I couldn't see anything.

    One time, as I was going down the front straight behind to other FFs, visibility wasn't too bad so I could see that they were going to be
    fighting to the inside as the lead car drove to block off the next guy.

    But then the track got wetter, and I lost sight of both of them in the
    spray...

    ...until following car suddenly appeared as I was braking down the
    normal rain line about a car width and a half inside the rubbered in
    normal line.

    He was moving back to the outside to open up the corner after deciding
    that an inside pass wasn't going to happen, and he couldn't see me
    behind him...because of the spray.

    When we both finally saw each other, I moved all the way to the wall and
    he managed to leave me a bare (bare!) car's width between him and the
    wall, to the point that when I returned to the paddock after the race
    and looked, my left side tires didn't have any of the white paint in the
    molded numbers anymore.

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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to ALAN on Wed Nov 13 09:04:00 2024
    The basic issue is that the technology has outstripped safety when
    there's too much rain.

    Yes: they can bolt on the extreme wets, but they throw so much water
    into the air, that the drivers simply can't see far enough ahead.

    I agree. If the drivers cannot see where they are going, it is going to
    get dangerous quick. More tech doesn't do much good if they cannot see.

    When we both finally saw each other, I moved all the way to the wall and
    he managed to leave me a bare (bare!) car's width between him and the
    wall, to the point that when I returned to the paddock after the race
    and looked, my left side tires didn't have any of the white paint in the molded numbers anymore.

    That was a close call then. :O Thanks for sharing this!


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