On 11/4/2024 4:29 AM, Mark wrote:

Please post your predictions for the GP in United before the start
of P1 on 22/11/2024. Times for various timezones appear below, but
the cutoff is start of practice.

Pole position:

P1:
P2:
P3:

Pole: Verstappen

P1: Verstappen

p2: Sainz

P3: Piastri

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On 2024-11-04 02:29, Mark wrote:

Please post your predictions for the GP in United before the start
of P1 on 22/11/2024. Times for various timezones appear below, but
the cutoff is start of practice.

Pole position:

P1:
P2:
P3:

I thought I already posted but nothing showed up in the feed. Apologies
if you get this twice.


Pole: VER

P1: VER
P2: NOR
P3: HAM

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Pole position: Norris

P1: Norris
P2: Verstappen
P3: Leclerc

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On 11/4/2024 4:29 AM, Mark wrote:

Track (Last Vegas) 21/11/2024 20:30 PST

This might be two hours off:

https://www.formula1.com/en/racing/2024/las-vegas

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Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
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you can't write comedy. - J. Kent Clark

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On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 13:20:28 -0000 (UTC), Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com>
wrote:

I used to update it a few times during the season - fully automated and
taken straight from the F1 web page - but they've made the data _so_
horrible (and change it even mid-season) it's become semi-manual and >long-winded.

F1 webs were always horrible. They don't understand that if they make
the site user friendly it will help F1 to be more popular.
If they make API for data to be freely used by others, many will use
them and spread the word (open data concept).
Not only schedule, but all data: live timings, standings, other
statistics, everything.

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It's better to be judged by twelwe than carried by six.

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Pole position: NOR

P1: NOR
P2: VER
P3: PIA
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On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 09:16:10 -0000 (UTC), Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com>
wrote:

All because web designers these days are *so* sloppy, they can't even
get basic validation of data right...and browser companies are complicit
as they have built acceptance of this brokenness into their browsers, so
that they can render even the most broken pages (mostly).

* I'm talking about a level of unmatched and mismatched tags that it
makes validation tools and parsers give up in frustration. Just a
simple example is the 96 violations (24 errors, 4 warnings, 68 info
advisories) that the W3C validator comes up with just on the front
results page:

https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.formula1.com%2Fen%2Fresults%2F2024%2Fraces

I feel you.
The whole HTML concept is soooo losely defined and "out of control"
that such horrible stories are widespread.
As a former developer (back in the days, 25 years ago when everything
was much more defined and strict), I understand the frustration with
this mess.

Why in the world you'd need to write the parser!?
They have all data already structured, so they only need to publish
them properly. No big deal, really. But, someone have to make the
decision about it.


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On 11/5/2024 4:16 AM, Mark wrote:

On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 13:20:28 -0000 (UTC), Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com>
wrote:

I used to update it a few times during the season - fully automated and
taken straight from the F1 web page - but they've made the data _so_
horrible (and change it even mid-season) it's become semi-manual and
long-winded.

The "Classification" page at

http://www.forix.com/gp.php?l=0&r=20240021&c=2

is a lot cleaner, if you have access. (The table of results is easy to
find and copy out.)

It is one of the reasons I'm a bit slower with results the last couple
of years. For a decade, that was fully automated. A Python script would
parse the F1 website, compile the full set of results and inject them
into the SQL table. Another script would then build the results post.

I still have occasion to write scripts to do things like take text
output from an Excel file and turn it into an HTML table - the former
being a lot easier than the latter for adding and removing entries
without screwing up the layout.

They're in Python, of course. It wasn't the NBA star of the same name
who coined the marketing slogan that used to be used on Python.org:

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.python/c/yVEsK9m74SE/m/3L0yPGHjxgsJ

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Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
If you can't write comedy about Caltech,
you can't write comedy. - J. Kent Clark

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On 11/4/24 01:29, Mark wrote:

Please post your predictions for the GP in United before the start
of P1 on 22/11/2024. Times for various timezones appear below, but
the cutoff is start of practice.

a425couple predicts
Pole position: LEC
P1: LEC
P2: NOR
P3: PIA

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Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> writes:

It is one of the reasons I'm a bit slower with results the last couple
of years. For a decade, that was fully automated. A Python script would
parse the F1 website, compile the full set of results and inject them
into the SQL table. Another script would then build the results post.

How about scraping something like the season's wikipedia page instead?

Phil
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Pole position: VER

P1: VER
P2: NOR
P3: LEC

Sreekumar

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On 11/4/2024 03:29, Mark wrote:

Please post your predictions for the GP in United before the start
of P1 on 22/11/2024. Times for various timezones appear below, but
the cutoff is start of practice.

Pole: NOR

P1: VER
P2: NOR
P3: LEC

--

Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
--Carl Sagan

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Pole position: VER

P1: VER

P2: NOR

P3: LEC



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Sir Tim

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Pole: VER

P1: VER
P2: LEC
P3: NOR

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JohnM

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On 04/11/2024 09:29, Mark wrote:

Pole position: Lando Norris

P1: Lando Norris
P2: Charles Leclerc
P3: Carlos Sainz

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