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On 24/08/2024 01:05, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the >>>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent >>>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
You quoted where they said you should not.
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums, >>>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
there.
Who has told you that?
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASCI have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA. >>>>>>>>>>
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to >>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the >>>>> ASC forums.
Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
OK. This is all so weird.
Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one -
in order to access the ASC forums?
I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
was OK.
Yes indeed. They don't seem to think it's a security risk.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums. >>>>>>>
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.
THEY have described my behaviour in that way.
That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some
folk there don't like that.
SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda!
Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata
here in my Usenet group?
Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)
On Aug 24, 2024 at 2:15:34 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <litmlmFajmaU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 01:05, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:You quoted where they said you should not.
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the >>>>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent >>>>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless! >>>>>>>>>>>
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums, >>>>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing. >>>>>>>>>
I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
there.
Who has told you that?
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASCI have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA. >>>>>>>>>>>
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to >>>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the >>>>>> ASC forums.
Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
OK. This is all so weird.
Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one - >>>> in order to access the ASC forums?
I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
was OK.
Yes indeed. They don't seem to think it's a security risk.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.
THEY have described my behaviour in that way.
As have you. You describe yourself as asking about apps and developers in a way that implies nefarious intentions. Then you are surprised when people respond.
That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some
folk there don't like that.
SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda!
Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata
here in my Usenet group?
Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)
On Aug 24, 2024 at 12:43:14 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lith8iF9ivbU3@mid.individual.net>:[....]
I most certainly 'touched a nerve' - I must have got close to the truth.
No. You have repeatedly broken terms of service and suggested that apps and developers were doing wrong, and did so with no evidence. You are the one who has pointed to your behavior as you do that. This has resulted in you getting banned. It is frustrating for you, sure, but it does not mean you have gotten closer to some deep "truth" about them... you have to face you have an issue with repeatedly asking about apps and developers in ways that are not appropriate.
I simply wanted you to check - so that both you and others reading herePlease give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC >>>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA. >>>>>>>>>I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to >>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
ASC forums.
If not for joining your battle with them they why? And you said they already
said it was OK. Why ask when we have an answer? This is all so odd to me. >>
would would have a second opinion.
WHY? For what purpose? It is so weird!
I am not really concerned about the forums there.They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums. >>>>>>
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter? >>>
Indeed. I got that impression.
What about THIS place?
https://x704.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9373&p=124552#p124552
I have gone there on your request in the past. Nothing there of much interest to me. No reason to assume anything nefarious.
You'll note that it's run by 'BDAqua' - a top honcho on the ASC forums!
There's more on-line than Usenet! 😉
On Aug 24, 2024 at 9:37:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <liughmFebqgU1@mid.individual.net>:[....]
As have you. You describe yourself as asking about apps and developers in a >>> way that implies nefarious intentions. Then you are surprised when people >>> respond.
I have no idea what you are referring to! Am I simply forgetting? Please
help.
You have asked about ClamXAV and EtreCheck. What else have you posted about?
Can you cite a reference for your claim?
You talk about it here:
And here:
And here:
And many more I am sure.
That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some >>>> folk there don't like that.
SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda! >>>>
Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata >>>> here in my Usenet group?
Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)
On Aug 24, 2024 at 11:25:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <liums0Ff466U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 16:46, Snit wrote:
On Aug 24, 2024 at 12:43:14 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote[....]
<lith8iF9ivbU3@mid.individual.net>:
I most certainly 'touched a nerve' - I must have got close to the truth. >>>No. You have repeatedly broken terms of service and suggested that apps and >>> developers were doing wrong, and did so with no evidence. You are the one who
has pointed to your behavior as you do that. This has resulted in you getting
banned. It is frustrating for you, sure, but it does not mean you have gotten
closer to some deep "truth" about them... you have to face you have an issue
with repeatedly asking about apps and developers in ways that are not
appropriate.
Perhaps you think asking about THIS result is "not appropriate"?
https://i.ibb.co/PZJ7tmr/Screenshot-2020-08-01-at-08-23-38.png
Is that what you think?
What do you think is not appropriate about it?
I simply wanted you to check - so that both you and others reading here >>>> would would have a second opinion.Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASCI have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA. >>>>>>>>>>>
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to >>>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the >>>>>> ASC forums.
If not for joining your battle with them they why? And you said they already
said it was OK. Why ask when we have an answer? This is all so odd to me. >>>>
WHY? For what purpose? It is so weird!
I'm sure most folk believe that to access the ASC forums people have to
use their AppleID (So that they are identifiable to Apple).
That is NOT the case.
And? We have talked about this. Not sure what you are looking for.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
I am not really concerned about the forums there.
Indeed. I got that impression.
What about THIS place?
https://x704.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9373&p=124552#p124552
I have gone there on your request in the past. Nothing there of much interest
to me. No reason to assume anything nefarious.
THAT comment of yours rather surprises me. You appear to enjoy asking
and answering questions and that BBS seems to fit that bill admirably.
I went there and did not see any questions I felt needed to be answered or any
significant tech talks that pulled me in. Is there one going on you would think I would be interested in?
Why don't you like the venue for your everyday adventures?
Was not fond of the format and the content did not pull me in. What conversations there have you found to be interesting?
You'll note that it's run by 'BDAqua' - a top honcho on the ASC forums! >>>>
There's more on-line than Usenet! 😉
On Aug 24, 2024 at 1:50:21 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <liuvcdFgbtcU3@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 19:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 24, 2024 at 11:25:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liums0Ff466U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 16:46, Snit wrote:
On Aug 24, 2024 at 12:43:14 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote[....]
<lith8iF9ivbU3@mid.individual.net>:
I most certainly 'touched a nerve' - I must have got close to the truth. >>>>>No. You have repeatedly broken terms of service and suggested that apps and
developers were doing wrong, and did so with no evidence. You are the one who
has pointed to your behavior as you do that. This has resulted in you getting
banned. It is frustrating for you, sure, but it does not mean you have gotten
closer to some deep "truth" about them... you have to face you have an issue
with repeatedly asking about apps and developers in ways that are not >>>>> appropriate.
Perhaps you think asking about THIS result is "not appropriate"?
https://i.ibb.co/PZJ7tmr/Screenshot-2020-08-01-at-08-23-38.png
Is that what you think?
What do you think is not appropriate about it?
Are you surmising that the message is going against the grain of what
most folk on the forums think?
What if they are wrong?!!
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASCI have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the >>>>>>>> ASC forums.
If not for joining your battle with them they why? And you said they already
said it was OK. Why ask when we have an answer? This is all so odd to me.
I simply wanted you to check - so that both you and others reading here >>>>>> would would have a second opinion.
WHY? For what purpose? It is so weird!
I'm sure most folk believe that to access the ASC forums people have to >>>> use their AppleID (So that they are identifiable to Apple).
That is NOT the case.
And? We have talked about this. Not sure what you are looking for.
'Bad guys' can infiltrate the forums with ease.
And? As you have seen, when someone is being abusive they are kicked out.
Apple should be more stringent in my opinion.
That is fair.
They oversee it, surely.They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules? >>>>>>>>>>>
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums! >>>>>>>>>
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
I am not really concerned about the forums there.
Indeed. I got that impression.
What about THIS place?
https://x704.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9373&p=124552#p124552
I have gone there on your request in the past. Nothing there of much interest
to me. No reason to assume anything nefarious.
THAT comment of yours rather surprises me. You appear to enjoy asking
and answering questions and that BBS seems to fit that bill admirably.
I went there and did not see any questions I felt needed to be answered or any
significant tech talks that pulled me in. Is there one going on you would >>> think I would be interested in?
There are LOTS of unanswered questions. They are a separate category.
Any specific ones you want to point to? How long would it take to find a question or topic of interest? Any why that forum when there are many out there? I am also in FB groups.
Why don't you like the venue for your everyday adventures?
Was not fond of the format and the content did not pull me in. What
conversations there have you found to be interesting?
The ones where "Anonymous" curtailed the discussion!
Can you offer a link again?
You'll note that it's run by 'BDAqua' - a top honcho on the ASC forums! >>>>>>
There's more on-line than Usenet! 😉
Can you determine any real-life information about BDAqua?
The first question is: do I think I have the right to do so? If so do I think there is the info required to do so?
On Aug 24, 2024 at 1:38:52 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <liuumsFgbtcU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 20:11, Snit wrote:
On Aug 24, 2024 at 9:37:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote[....]
<liughmFebqgU1@mid.individual.net>:
As have you. You describe yourself as asking about apps and developers in a
way that implies nefarious intentions. Then you are surprised when people >>>>> respond.
I have no idea what you are referring to! Am I simply forgetting? Please >>>> help.
You have asked about ClamXAV and EtreCheck. What else have you posted about?
All manner of subjects!
Can you cite a reference for your claim?
You talk about it here:
???
And here:
????
And here:
?????
And many more I am sure.
ARG! My client sucks when it comes to posting things that might be seen as a header. I had the Message headers. Thankfully I have a clipboard manager.
Sincerely sorry for that. It is a HUGE weakness of Usenapp.
That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some >>>>>> folk there don't like that.
SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda! >>>>>>
Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata >>>>>> here in my Usenet group?
Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)
Why not give it a whirl, Snit?
My life is quite busy. Not looking for more things to fill it up with, esp. when there is no real incentive.
Now then - I'll explain what this is all about!
My 'Cunning Plan" (as my boy used to say!) was to verify that someone
'here' (ASW) is monitoring my activity and reporting back to his
'controller' in 'The Lounge" - part of the ASC forums set-up.
This Message-ID: <lieo8nF2lssU3@mid.individual.net> laid out the
question almost exactly as I'd posted it on the ASC forums.
I received four responses (notified to me by email - and I reproduced 3
here in ACW).
Then 'someone' - whomever it is monitoring here - notified a 'moderator'
in 'The Lounge' that poster 'WhiterThanWhite' was actually David B., incognito, and then "I" was banned again. As far as I can tell the
original post and all responses have been removed from the ASC forums.
If you Google, you will find notification that my post WAS made:-
https://www.google.com/search?q=What+does+ %22Reinstall+macOS%22+do%2C+exactly%3F&oq=What+does+ %22Reinstall+macOS%22+do%2C+exactly%3F&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBDDY3MjUxMDIyajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Here's a screenshot of an extract from that link:-
https://i.ibb.co/rwBtnWL/Screenshot-2024-08-22-at-11-13-38.png
Here's some information about The Lounge ......
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251745608?sortBy=rank
YOU may think I'm crazy - but I am not so. 🙂
Want to test for yourself?
Go to the ASC forums and ask questions about EtreCheck. By all means
check out the Etresoft Inc address as shown here too:- https://www.etresoft.com/en/index.html
21 Simcoe Street South
Oshawa Ontario L1H 4G1
Canada
They are operating from a PO Box Number!
HTH
--
Kind regards,
David
UCSM and CSMS groups added as an extra addressee
On Aug 24, 2024 at 3:29:58 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <liv576Fh8maU2@mid.individual.net>:
...
Why don't you like the venue for your everyday adventures?
Was not fond of the format and the content did not pull me in. What
conversations there have you found to be interesting?
The ones where "Anonymous" curtailed the discussion!
Can you offer a link again?
You'll note that it's run by 'BDAqua' - a top honcho on the ASC forums!
There's more on-line than Usenet! 😉
Can you determine any real-life information about BDAqua?
The first question is: do I think I have the right to do so? If so do I think
there is the info required to do so?
I'll come back to this tomorrow!
Fair enough.
On 24/08/2024 01:05, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the >>>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent >>>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
You quoted where they said you should not.
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums, >>>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
there.
Who has told you that?
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASCI have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA. >>>>>>>>>>
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to >>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the >>>>> ASC forums.
Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
OK. This is all so weird.
Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one -
in order to access the ASC forums?
I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
was OK.
Yes indeed. They don't seem to think it's a security risk.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums. >>>>>>>
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.
THEY have described my behaviour in that way.
That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some
folk there don't like that.
SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda!
Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata
here in my Usenet group?
Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)
On Aug 24, 2024 at 1:50:21 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <liuvcdFgbtcU3@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 19:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 24, 2024 at 11:25:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liums0Ff466U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 16:46, Snit wrote:
On Aug 24, 2024 at 12:43:14 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote[....]
<lith8iF9ivbU3@mid.individual.net>:
I most certainly 'touched a nerve' - I must have got close to the truth. >>>>>No. You have repeatedly broken terms of service and suggested that apps and
developers were doing wrong, and did so with no evidence. You are the one who
has pointed to your behavior as you do that. This has resulted in you getting
banned. It is frustrating for you, sure, but it does not mean you have gotten
closer to some deep "truth" about them... you have to face you have an issue
with repeatedly asking about apps and developers in ways that are not >>>>> appropriate.
Perhaps you think asking about THIS result is "not appropriate"?
https://i.ibb.co/PZJ7tmr/Screenshot-2020-08-01-at-08-23-38.png
Is that what you think?
What do you think is not appropriate about it?
Are you surmising that the message is going against the grain of what
most folk on the forums think?
What if they are wrong?!!
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASCI have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the >>>>>>>> ASC forums.
If not for joining your battle with them they why? And you said they already
said it was OK. Why ask when we have an answer? This is all so odd to me.
I simply wanted you to check - so that both you and others reading here >>>>>> would would have a second opinion.
WHY? For what purpose? It is so weird!
I'm sure most folk believe that to access the ASC forums people have to >>>> use their AppleID (So that they are identifiable to Apple).
That is NOT the case.
And? We have talked about this. Not sure what you are looking for.
'Bad guys' can infiltrate the forums with ease.
And? As you have seen, when someone is being abusive they are kicked out.
Apple should be more stringent in my opinion.
That is fair.
They oversee it, surely.They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules? >>>>>>>>>>>
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums! >>>>>>>>>
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
I am not really concerned about the forums there.
Indeed. I got that impression.
What about THIS place?
https://x704.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9373&p=124552#p124552
I have gone there on your request in the past. Nothing there of much interest
to me. No reason to assume anything nefarious.
THAT comment of yours rather surprises me. You appear to enjoy asking
and answering questions and that BBS seems to fit that bill admirably.
I went there and did not see any questions I felt needed to be answered or any
significant tech talks that pulled me in. Is there one going on you would >>> think I would be interested in?
There are LOTS of unanswered questions. They are a separate category.
Any specific ones you want to point to? How long would it take to find a question or topic of interest? Any why that forum when there are many out there? I am also in FB groups.
Why don't you like the venue for your everyday adventures?
Was not fond of the format and the content did not pull me in. What
conversations there have you found to be interesting?
The ones where "Anonymous" curtailed the discussion!
Can you offer a link again?
You'll note that it's run by 'BDAqua' - a top honcho on the ASC forums! >>>>>>
There's more on-line than Usenet! 😉
Can you determine any real-life information about BDAqua?
The first question is: do I think I have the right to do so? If so do I think there is the info required to do so?
On Aug 24, 2024 at 5:15:34 AM EDT, "David Brooks" <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 24/08/2024 01:05, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:You quoted where they said you should not.
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the >>>>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent >>>>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless! >>>>>>>>>>>
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums, >>>>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing. >>>>>>>>>
I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
there.
Who has told you that?
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASCI have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA. >>>>>>>>>>>
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to >>>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the >>>>>> ASC forums.
Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
OK. This is all so weird.
Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one - >>>> in order to access the ASC forums?
I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
was OK.
Yes indeed. They don't seem to think it's a security risk.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.
THEY have described my behaviour in that way.
That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some
folk there don't like that.
SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda!
Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata
here in my Usenet group?
Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)
Can't you and Snit take this to private email?
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "Da
On Aug 27, 2024 at 12:46:59 PM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote <T2qzO.25114$xnk2.21931@fx11.iad>:
On 2024-08-22 12:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "Da
Why do you reply to it at all?
I think David does have a good heart... he does not mean to be harmful as say Pothead or Skeeter or Carroll or Gremlin do. But his focus here is not healthy
for him.
On Aug 27, 2024 at 1:31:36 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lj6rdbFn592U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 27/08/2024 21:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 27, 2024 at 12:46:59 PM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote
<T2qzO.25114$xnk2.21931@fx11.iad>:
On 2024-08-22 12:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "Da
Why do you reply to it at all?
I think David does have a good heart... he does not mean to be harmful as say
Pothead or Skeeter or Carroll or Gremlin do. But his focus here is not healthy
for him.
People ignore my questions about file size discrepancy, Snit.
I think that is the most interesting part of your recent questions.
Will you, please, ask if anyone can explain why the downloaded file from
EtreCheck is far smaller that the total files found by AppCleaner?
The total files? You mean including the ones made after by the app and the ones made by the OS? Files which are not a part of the download? One would expect that to be larger, no?
https://i.ibb.co/y0t7T54/Screenshot-2022-04-15-at-10-54-52.png
The reason might be as simple as the fact that the downloaded file is a
ZIP file!
But I don't think that's it!
So you are asking about the file size discrepancy?
On Aug 27, 2024 at 12:46:59áPM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote <T2qzO.25114$xnk2.21931@fx11.iad>:
On 2024-08-22 12:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19áAM MST, "Da
Why do you reply to it at all?
I think David does have a good heart... he does not mean to be harmful as say Pothead or Skeeter or Carroll or Gremlin do. But his focus here is not healthy
for him.
BDB wrote:
Subject: Why?Would BDB have us believe that --
- he hasn't a clue about how he offends in various ways
- he doesn't 'troll' for our responses to his bannings from moderated places
Personally I happen to believe that people should --
- behave themselves in such places as ASC
- not try to stimulate conversation by acting 'stupidly' OR dishonestly
<br><br>
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Context?
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19áAM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10áAM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
In article <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>, BDB@nomail.afraid.org
says...
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
He wont, he never does.
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png >>>>>
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png >>>>>>>
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things. >>>
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
You quoted where they said you should not.
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
handle people who do not respect their rules.
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things. >>>>>
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox! >>>>
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running >>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
You quoted where they said you should not.
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox! >>>>>>
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think >>>>>> there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the >>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running >>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent >>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
You quoted where they said you should not.
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome there.
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC >>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the >>>> ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would not be appropriate.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think >>>>>>>> there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the >>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent >>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
You quoted where they said you should not.
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums, >>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies >>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome >>> there.
Who has told you that?
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC >>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the >>>>>> ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would >>> not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
ASC forums.
Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was OK. This is all so weird.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums. >>>>
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox! >>>>>>
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think >>>>>> there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the >>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running >>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent >>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
You quoted where they said you should not.
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome there.
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC >>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the >>>> ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would not be appropriate.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:53 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lisislF5itgU2@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png >>>>>>>
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things. >>>
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
*I want to know what nerve my question touched.
You repeatedly talk about things outside of Apple... often implicating people as if they were doing wrong even when there is no evidence or reason. This has
been covered many times.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
there was?)
You did speak of third parties.
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
If they told you that why did you ask me to ask them that?
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
Why? I am not wanting to harass them or get involved with your battle with them. You have been repeatedly inappropriate and they have told you that many times.
Thanks.
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:32:06 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <liskfmF5itgU5@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think >>>>>>>> there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the >>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent >>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
You quoted where they said you should not.
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums, >>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies >>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome >>> there.
Who has told you that?
You!
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC >>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the >>>>>> ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would >>> not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
ASC forums.
If not for joining your battle with them they why? And you said they already said it was OK. Why ask when we have an answer? This is all so odd to me.
They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums. >>>>
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
I am not really concerned about the forums there.
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
Data could not be decoded.
Data could not be decoded.
Any idea why?
Context?
Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
Really?
Please cite
No MID?
Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
Sorry it did not come through the first time.
OK
That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
*I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
there was?)
Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the >>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent >>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
You quoted where they said you should not.
I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums, >>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
there.
Who has told you that?
Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC >>>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA. >>>>>>>>>I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
handle people who do not respect their rules.
How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
ASC forums?
OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
not be appropriate.
That is not correct.
I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to >>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
ASC forums.
Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
OK. This is all so weird.
Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one -
in order to access the ASC forums?
I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it was OK.
Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.They make up their own rules, Snit.
Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
https://discussions.apple.com/terms
Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums. >>>>>>
Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
They oversee it, surely.
I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter? >>>
To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.
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