• Re: [NEWS] Mac App Store broken for old versions of macOS

    From Ant@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Sat Feb 8 19:27:58 2025
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    In comp.sys.mac.system Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
    On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09?PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
    for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

    Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

    Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

    Not always. :(
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 8 11:18:49 2025
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    On 2025-02-07 21:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 08.02.25 06:32, Tyrone wrote:
    On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
    reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
    for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
    another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

    Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App >> Store".

    Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the
    developers' websites.

    +1
    Nobody needs a Nanny.


    Give the range of individuals I know who want to use computers and
    smartphones, I can tell you with absolute certainty that some people do, indeed, need a nanny.

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  • From Percival John Hackworth@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 8 22:24:16 2025
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    On Feb 8, 2025 at 8:57:21 AM PST, "scole" <scole> wrote:

    In article <vo6qo0$3u0bg$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name
    <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-08 05:32:31 +0000, Tyrone said:
    On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:

    It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One >>>> reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
    for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just >>>> another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

    Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App >>> Store".

    Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the >>> developers' websites.

    Except MacOS itself, Apple's own apps (Pages, etc.), many other apps
    that the developers do not have on other websites.

    The App Store has always felt very poorly implemented. I don't mind the concept of it in principle, but it feels very un-Apple in its clunkiness.

    Kinda related gripe; I have a fully-functioning, near-pristine original
    iPad that I haven't been able to do a damn thing with for years as it is unable to connect to the App Store, they cut its iOS off from connecting
    to it. In an ideal world, Apple would allow for these outdated machines to still connect and access older versions of apps (it used to be the case
    that I could buy/download an app on my modern iPhone, and then visit the
    App Store on the iPad and be able to download an older, compatible version
    of the app - this squeezed a few more years of use out of my iPad but
    can't even do that now, and I didn't realise that until I had reset it to factory settings and went to grab a few key apps...).

    My neighbor had one of these I pads she fished out of her closet while she was attempting to Marie Kondo her condo. The last email we could see on it was
    over 3 years ago and it wouldn't connect to Gmail any more. Nor would it connect to iCloud or the Apple Store.

    I couldn't factory reset it as it required logging into iCloud to do so. So I told her to take it to the Apple Store and tell them to shred it.
    --
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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 8 12:53:09 2025
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    It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
    reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
    for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
    another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(


    Apple breaks the Mac App Store for macOS Sierra users
    -----------------------------------------------------
    A back end change to the Mac App Store appears to have shut out
    users of macOS Sierra and older versions, blocking not just
    purchases, but also downloads of software already bought.

    While users of the current macOS Sequoia have recently
    benefited from Mac App Store changes, it's being reported that
    users on 2016's macOS Sierra are no longer able to use the
    store at all.

    As first spotted by blogger Michael Tsai, macOS 10.12.6 Sierra
    users are now just getting an error message when the attempt to
    sign in. It's not certain whether it is affecting all or only
    some macOS Sierra users, but reports are spreading on Apple
    support forums and social media.

    The issue appears to have followed Apple's mid-January
    announcement to developers that it would be changing how
    certificates for App Store receipts are signed. This is how the
    App Store encodes a proof of purchase for apps.

    Apple has cautioned developers that it is possible that "your app
    will fail to validate the receipt," which could mean that "your
    customers may lose access to their content. The developer note
    explains how individual apps could be updated to avoid this.

    There doesn't appear to be a similar notice concerning the whole
    of the App Store. It's conceivable, then, that this is an error
    which will be addressed by Apple in an update.

    However, macOS Sierra is now close to a decade old. It was also
    a particularly significant release as it was the first to be
    branded macOS instead of OS X.

    It was in the following release, macOS High Sierra, that Apple
    made the switch to only 64-bit apps. This meant that older 32-bit
    software could no longer be used from this 2018 update or later.


    <https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/02/07/apple-breaks-the-mac-app-store-for-macos-sierra-users>

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Feb 8 14:48:15 2025
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    On 2025-02-07 23:53:09 +0000, Your Name said:

    It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
    for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(


    Apple breaks the Mac App Store for macOS Sierra users
    -----------------------------------------------------
    A back end change to the Mac App Store appears to have shut out
    users of macOS Sierra and older versions, blocking not just
    purchases, but also downloads of software already bought.

    <snip>


    <https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/02/07/apple-breaks-the-mac-app-store-for-macos-sierra-users>


    There are reports that the App Stoer isn't working properly with newer
    MacOS versions up to Mojave (10.14), although that could just be an
    issue with the servers being busy.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Sat Feb 8 06:39:11 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.vintage

    On 08.02.25 06:32, Tyrone wrote:
    On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
    reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
    for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
    another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

    Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

    Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

    +1
    Nobody needs a Nanny.

    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Feb 8 05:32:31 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.vintage

    On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
    for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

    Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

    Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Sat Feb 8 18:40:16 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.vintage

    On 2025-02-08 05:32:31 +0000, Tyrone said:
    On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
    reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
    for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
    another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

    Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

    Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

    Except MacOS itself, Apple's own apps (Pages, etc.), many other apps
    that the developers do not have on other websites.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Feb 8 07:43:12 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.vintage

    On 08.02.25 06:40, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-02-08 05:32:31 +0000, Tyrone said:
    On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
    reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
    for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
    another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

    Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App >> Store".

    Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the
    developers' websites.

    Except MacOS itself, Apple's own apps (Pages, etc.), many other apps
    that the developers do not have on other websites.

    My Macs update directly without the store.


    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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