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He’s already admitted to being Marion and wrote a big email about it just a few days ago.
Do you feel smarter now that you figured it out?
On 2025-01-27 20:06, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 28.01.25 04:56, Marion wrote:
With Apple always desperately copying innovation from others, you may want >>> to opt out of the terrible Apple Intelligence in iOS 18.3 released today. >>>
*How to switch off Apple Intelligence on the iPhone, iPad & Mac*
<https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/27/how-to-switch-off-apple-intelligence-on-your-iphone-ipad-and-mac/>
They reference the canonical subredit on Apple Intelligence flaws.
<https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleIntelligenceFail/>
See also *Siri Is Super Dumb and Getting Dumber* from last Thursday.
<https://daringfireball.net/2025/01/siri_is_super_dumb_and_getting_dumber>
Apple can't innovate; but like China, Apple can make cheap copies.
Marion: This is the proof that you are Arlen.
And incredibly stupid...
...as Apple Intelligence leverages ChatGPT
Alan wrote:
Apple can't innovate; but like China, Apple can make cheap copies.
Marion: This is the proof that you are Arlen.
And incredibly stupid...
...as Apple Intelligence leverages ChatGPT
Wait... doesn't that just prove his point that Apple can't innovate so
they have to use someone else's product?
He wasn't Arlen when he posted to your very own thread asking where
Arlen was. Since you didn't know Marion was Arlen you couldn't have
had him killfiled. Stop being stupid and ignorant then accusing others
of being stupid and ignorant.
Marion wrote:
"Apple whisperer Mark Gurman reported that Apple was transitioning
Kim Vorrath, a veteran project manager and "fixer", into its AI and
Siri division. Vorrath has been given a mandate of "whipping
artificial intelligence and Siri into shape." "Apple has seemingly
been determined to keep much of its AI on-device as possible, which
has led to reports that Apple is "two years behind" competitors like
Google and OpenAI which are more focused on cloud-based AI."
If this is really what they are trying to do I hope they succeed. Just
so long as they don't switch over to the Chinese DeepSeek AI which
blatantly tells users all their personal information is going to the
Chinese government.
If this is really what they are trying to do I hope they succeed. Just
so long as they don't switch over to the Chinese DeepSeek AI which
blatantly tells users all their personal information is going to the
Chinese government.
Alan wrote:
On 2025-01-28 13:18, badgolferman wrote:
Marion wrote:
"Apple whisperer Mark Gurman reported that Apple was transitioning
Kim Vorrath, a veteran project manager and "fixer", into its AI
and Siri division. Vorrath has been given a mandate of "whipping
artificial intelligence and Siri into shape." "Apple has seemingly
been determined to keep much of its AI on-device as possible,
which has led to reports that Apple is "two years behind"
competitors like Google and OpenAI which are more focused on
cloud-based AI."
If this is really what they are trying to do I hope they succeed.
Just so long as they don't switch over to the Chinese DeepSeek AI
which blatantly tells users all their personal information is going
to the Chinese government.
I'm sure you're correct about the lack of actual privacy on DeepSeek,
but I am curious where they "blatantly tell" you that.
Read the article I posted earlier.
What high tech is Apple actually good at?
Note: I'm sure the Apple trolls will mention CPUs, but it turns out
Apple is no good at CPU development (and Apple even stopped making
GPUs). The reason Apple makes their own iPhone CPU is for purely
marketing reasons.
How about trackers and ear buds? The Apple branded ones are pretty
good.
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 21:18:16 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
If this is really what they are trying to do I hope they succeed. Just
so long as they don't switch over to the Chinese DeepSeek AI which
blatantly tells users all their personal information is going to the
Chinese government.
Unfortunately, Apple merely copies innovation & remarkets it at huge prices sustained by (admittedly brilliant) slick advertising for the hoi polloi.
However...
Like you, I also hope that Apple succeeds in copying the existing AI innovation to the point that it's a worthy competitor, just like Apple
Maps. The more competition, the better, as I end up getting better stuff.
The good news is Apple makes so much profit off it's product line that it
can afford the immense outlay in costs to catch up (even though by
virtually all accounts, Apple is two years behind Google in AI technology).
Notice though, that Apple is behind others in almost all high technology.
For example, how many years behind Qualcomm is Apple in 5G integration?
I get it that the Apple trolls hate all Apple can do is copy high tech,
much like China does, and then Apple resells those copies at huge profits.
But if the Apple trolls want to dispute that - all they'd need to do is
tell us what high technology Apple leads in (and no, Emojiis don't count).
Neither does Apple's fantastic ability to name all those bold new colors! What high tech is Apple actually good at?
Note: I'm sure the Apple trolls will mention CPUs, but it turns out Apple
is no good at CPU development (and Apple even stopped making GPUs). The reason Apple makes their own iPhone CPU is for purely marketing reasons.
Alan wrote:
Apple can't innovate; but like China, Apple can make cheap copies.
Marion: This is the proof that you are Arlen.
And incredibly stupid...
...as Apple Intelligence leverages ChatGPT
Wait... doesn't that just prove his point that Apple can't innovate so
they have to use someone else's product?
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 22:40:28 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
What high tech is Apple actually good at?
Note: I'm sure the Apple trolls will mention CPUs, but it turns out
Apple is no good at CPU development (and Apple even stopped making
GPUs). The reason Apple makes their own iPhone CPU is for purely >>marketing reasons.
How about trackers and ear buds? The Apple branded ones are pretty
good.
Hi badgolferman,
Thank you for bringing up bluetooth trackers and ear buds, as I am
struggling to find even a single high-tech technology Apple pioneered.
In general, all Apple usually does is copy other people's technology, where Apple excels at marketing that technology even as they're lousy at R&D.
However, maybe I'm wrong?
I'd *love* to be wrong, by the way.
Seriously.
If I'm wrong, I'll learn something.
Hence...
We can carry on a normal conversation about Apple products, where you bring up a good point that Apple does push their name-brand trackers & ear buds.
Being an Amazon Vine customer, I get all the non-Apple bluetooth ear buds, ear phones (bone & air conduction) & headphones I could ask for, where I'm sure the Apple-branded earphones are good - I just have never tested them.
Looking it up, how does this summarize the ear buds situation at Apple?
1. AirPods (regular): The most basic and affordable model.
<https://www.apple.com/airpods/>
2. AirPods Pro: Adds noise cancellation and transparency mode.
<https://www.apple.com/airpods-pro/>
3. AirPods Max: Over-ear HiFi headphones with noise cancellation.
<https://www.apple.com/airpods-max/>
Looking up who pioneered the technology, apparently French engineer
Ernest Mercadier patented a set of in-ear headphones in 1891, so, using the sophomoric argument Alan Browne & nospam often used, just because the technology has been working for over a hundred years, for that reason
alone, Apple should get rid of them (which is hilariously their argument on the aux jack).
Anyway, a quick search shows Apple was the 4th company to release them:
a. Bragi: Released their first true wireless earbuds in late 2015.
b. Earin: Released its first true wireless earbuds in October 2015.
c. Onkyo: Released the W800BT true wireless earbuds in 2015.
d. Apple released the first generation of AirPods in December 2016.
So Apple did NOT release the 1st modern earbuds, Bragi did, with the Dash.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bragi_(company)>
I grant you that Apple being only a year behind in high tech is pretty good for Apple, since on integrated modems, for example, Apple is a decade
behind - where I've always predicted Apple would never be able to catch up.
But let's look at the trackers next, as, well, I've never used them and I don't even know if they're on Amazon Vine (https://amazon.com/vine/about).
A. The first Tile trackers were delivered in 2013.
B: The first Chipolo trackers were delivered in 2013.
C. Apple AirTags were first released on April 30, 2021.
While Apple was behind in tracker technology, what Apple did was leverage
the extensive "Find My" network, which provides a significant advantage in terms of tracking capabilities and range.
In summary, while you bring up a good point that maybe Apple did pioneer something recently that can be considered high technology, it seems Apple
was a year behind much smaller companies on bluetooth air buds and a whoppingly huge 8 years behind in introducing the bluetooth trackers.
Having said that, I'm not comparing which are better, as that would be like comparing Apple Maps to Google Maps, where which being better depends on a lot of other factors - but clearly Google was way ahead of Apple and just
as clearly, all Apple could do was copy what Google had already done.
The question remains valid if there is *anything* recent that Apple has pioneered that can be considered high technology (and no, those bold new colors and exciting emojii do not count). :)
I*never* thought I would also get back the 25+ years old trolls and
really boring over-zealous bashing
Give it your best shot, gents...!
With Apple always desperately copying innovation from others, you may want
to opt out of the terrible Apple Intelligence in iOS 18.3 released today.
*How to switch off Apple Intelligence on the iPhone, iPad & Mac*
<https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/27/how-to-switch-off-apple-intelligence-on-your-iphone-ipad-and-mac/>
They reference the canonical subredit on Apple Intelligence flaws.
<https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleIntelligenceFail/>
See also *Siri Is Super Dumb and Getting Dumber* from last Thursday.
<https://daringfireball.net/2025/01/siri_is_super_dumb_and_getting_dumber>
Apple can't innovate; but like China, Apple can make cheap copies.
On 28.01.25 04:56, Marion wrote:
With Apple always desperately copying innovation from others, you may want >> to opt out of the terrible Apple Intelligence in iOS 18.3 released today.
*How to switch off Apple Intelligence on the iPhone, iPad & Mac*
<https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/27/how-to-switch-off-apple-intelligence-on-your-iphone-ipad-and-mac/>
They reference the canonical subredit on Apple Intelligence flaws.
<https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleIntelligenceFail/>
See also *Siri Is Super Dumb and Getting Dumber* from last Thursday.
<https://daringfireball.net/2025/01/siri_is_super_dumb_and_getting_dumber> >>
Apple can't innovate; but like China, Apple can make cheap copies.
Marion: This is the proof that you are Arlen.
I *never* thought I would also get back the 25+ years old trolls
