• Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio

    From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 02:29:13 2024
    Hello,

    So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
    Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.

    It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
    much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

    Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
    jobs in crontab? Or...?

    Thanks,

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to vallor on Mon Dec 23 22:39:27 2024
    On 2024-12-23 18:29, vallor wrote:
    Hello,

    So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
    Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.

    It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
    much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

    Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
    jobs in crontab? Or...?

    Thanks,


    No.

    Time Machine backs up every hour.

    What you are looking at is how it culls it's backups.

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  • From Percival John Hackworth@21:1/5 to vallor on Tue Dec 24 08:19:04 2024
    On Dec 23, 2024 at 6:29:13 PM PST, "vallor" <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

    Hello,

    So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
    Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.

    It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
    much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

    Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
    jobs in crontab? Or...?

    Thanks,

    I use TimeMachineEditor to set my own schedule of when Time Machine runs.

    https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26704/timemachineeditor

    You turn off the automatic scheduler and set your own using the Editor. It creates a Launch schedule to at specific intervals or on a calendar intervals. I currently take Time Machine backups at 3 hour intervals throughout the day.

    The initial thought for the built-in schedule is that TM would run hourly during "normal working hours", then infrequently after hours. Backups older than 24 hours are consolidated to a single backup. Backups older than 3 months are consolidated to weekly backups.

    Apple has articles on how it runs on their site and this article goes into
    more detail. Howard also has utilities to check Time Machine.

    https://eclecticlight.co/2023/03/01/how-does-time-machine-make-a-backup/
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to vallor on Mon Dec 30 17:58:11 2024
    On 24.12.24 03:29, vallor wrote:
    It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
    much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

    Keep the HD plugged and it does not matter. The amount of data remains
    the same. Hourly is a very reasonable period.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Dec 24 14:53:03 2024
    On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 22:39:27 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in <vkdkuv$1n1v8$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2024-12-23 18:29, vallor wrote:
    Hello,

    So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
    Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.

    It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
    much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

    Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
    jobs in crontab? Or...?

    Thanks,


    No.

    Time Machine backs up every hour.

    What you are looking at is how it culls it's backups.

    Unless I'm mistaken, that turns out not to be the case. If you
    look under "options" in System > General > Time Machine, you'll
    see four options for frequency of backup: Manual, Hourly, Daily, Weekly.

    I set it to "Manual", then used TME to set backups for every 6 hours.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to pjh@nanoworks.com on Tue Dec 24 15:04:12 2024
    On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 08:19:04 GMT, Percival John Hackworth
    <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote in <Y7uaP.52234$Uup4.3003@fx10.iad>:

    On Dec 23, 2024 at 6:29:13 PM PST, "vallor" <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

    Hello,

    So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
    Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.

    It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
    much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

    Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
    jobs in crontab? Or...?

    Thanks,

    I use TimeMachineEditor to set my own schedule of when Time Machine
    runs.

    https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26704/timemachineeditor

    You turn off the automatic scheduler and set your own using the Editor.
    It creates a Launch schedule to at specific intervals or on a calendar intervals.
    I currently take Time Machine backups at 3 hour intervals throughout the
    day.

    The initial thought for the built-in schedule is that TM would run
    hourly during "normal working hours", then infrequently after hours.
    Backups older than 24 hours are consolidated to a single backup. Backups older than 3 months are consolidated to weekly backups.

    Apple has articles on how it runs on their site and this article goes
    into more detail. Howard also has utilities to check Time Machine.

    https://eclecticlight.co/2023/03/01/how-does-time-machine-make-a-backup/

    Thank you very much. No trouble installing and setting up TME, once I got
    past the annoying ads on macupdate.com. (Among other things, it tried
    to get me to install Avast -- are you kidding me? ;)

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to vallor on Tue Dec 24 18:02:18 2024
    On 2024-12-24, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
    Hello,

    So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
    Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.

    It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
    much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

    Hourly isn't too much. 🤣 Hourly backups let you undelete files you just deleted, or roll back to a version of the file you modified. And an hourly frequency means incremental backup will be smaller and faster. So I
    really have to wonder what makes you claim they are "too much"...

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to vallor on Tue Dec 24 18:04:33 2024
    On 2024-12-24, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

    Thank you very much. No trouble installing and setting up TME, once I got past the annoying ads on macupdate.com. (Among other things, it tried
    to get me to install Avast -- are you kidding me? ;)

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people are just bumbling around the
    web with no ad blocker... Bunch of masochists!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Tue Dec 24 13:26:36 2024
    On 2024-12-24 10:02, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-12-24, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
    Hello,

    So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
    Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.

    It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
    much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

    Hourly isn't too much. 🤣 Hourly backups let you undelete files you just deleted, or roll back to a version of the file you modified. And an hourly frequency means incremental backup will be smaller and faster. So I
    really have to wonder what makes you claim they are "too much"...


    Especially when you realize that it does do backup culling to avoid
    using TOO much storage.

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to vallor on Tue Dec 24 13:25:25 2024
    On 2024-12-24 06:53, vallor wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 22:39:27 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in <vkdkuv$1n1v8$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2024-12-23 18:29, vallor wrote:
    Hello,

    So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
    Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.

    It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
    much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

    Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
    jobs in crontab? Or...?

    Thanks,


    No.

    Time Machine backs up every hour.

    What you are looking at is how it culls it's backups.

    Unless I'm mistaken, that turns out not to be the case. If you
    look under "options" in System > General > Time Machine, you'll
    see four options for frequency of backup: Manual, Hourly, Daily, Weekly.

    I set it to "Manual", then used TME to set backups for every 6 hours.


    Ah!

    I hadn't notice that option. It must be fairly new.

    Thanks!

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