XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:55:43 -0700, Tom Elam wrote :
The sad fact is Apple's support is the *worst* in the entire industry.
Prove me wrong. I love to learn. But you need to state fac
I provided 3rd party evidence that your assertion is blatantly false. I
did not mention ANYTHING from Apple.
The problem with that statement above is I'm sick & tired of explaining for
a decade to you Apple trolls how to reason like a normal adult thinks.
The entire "logical reasoning" of the Apple trolls is that of a child.
You provided an article which shows that malware is rampant on Android.
Nobody disagrees with that premise, so we accept it a priori.
But that says nothing about the "security" of Android in that only fools download that malware - and yes - there are many fools out there, I agree.
The crap that fools download doesn't mean Android is insecure when iOS has
more exploits than any phone in history as reported by the US gov.
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https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
that's more than Android - even with the malware that's on Android.
And most of that Apple zero-day exploits are zero-click exploits.
None of which did Apple catch (as that's by definition of zero day).
In summary, you're trying to say that malware exists on Android, which
nobody denies, and yet, you're denying that the iPhone is the most
exploited phone in history according to the security part of the gov.
You don't understand that the fact Android malware can exist doesn't trump
the fact there isn't a phone in history more exploited than the iPhone.
You did not address the fact the Apple gives full support to phones
longer than your claim for Android. Or that Apple issues occasional
security updates well past the date full support stops.
The problem with that statement above is I'm sick & tired of explaining for
a decade to you Apple trolls how to reason like a normal adult thinks.
The entire "logical reasoning" of the Apple trolls is that of a child.
Again, nobody is denying that *every* operating system vendor patches bugs occassionally in older releases, where Android patches them every month for every Android on the planet that is on Android 10 or newer.
That's *billions* of phones around the world patched automatically every
month for phones that have been built since before Android 10 came out.
And Android 10 came out in 2019, so that's already all Android phones since *before* 2019, get patched every month using Google's Project Mainline.
I've explained for five years about Project Mainline to you Apple trolls;
and yet it never sinks in that Android is patched longer than iOS is.
But my point to you wasn't that an occasional patch happens by all
operating system vendors, but I'm well aware you Apple trolls have said for
a decade that an occasional patch means EVERY BUG is patched.
You don't think like adults. You have no capacity for logical reasoning.
Let me say it bluntly for you Apple trolls for the thousandth time, that an occasional patch (which all operating system vendors do) does not mean that every bug they know of is patched. That you think it does, is absurd.
Your reasoning skill are that of a child for all you Apple trolls.
It doesn't occur to you that Apple put in writing how long they will patch every bug that they know of, and that is for a single release only.
Only Apple does that.
Every other operating system vendor fully patches *more* than one release.
Also, security updates for the Google Pixel 5, a 2020 release, ended on
in November 2023. https://endoflife.date/pixel Generally speaking Pixel support seems to be only 3-4 years.
Nobody doubts that Apple supported wasn't always the worst in the industry.
But today, Apple support *is* the worst in the industry.
What changed?
Well, for one, the EU forced all the major phone vendors to put in writing
how long their full hotfix support will be and Apple's is by far the worst.
Samsung said 7 years, 7 releases. So did Google.
Apple said 5 years (where Apple only fully patches 1 release).
Now, we're all adults here, so we know there are a billion Android vendors whose promise isn't known - but Google & Samsung have the lion's share.
Especially when talking the same price range as Apple iPhones are.
So, Apple has, by far, the *shortest* full support in the industry.
And, the *fewest* number of simultaneous releases too.
That's just a fact.
You Apple trolls are first ignorant of the fact, but when you're told that fact, you *hate* that fact, so you always say that the fact that Apple
patches a hole every once in a while in older releases (which every
operating system vendor does), somehow, magically, means Apple patches all holes it knows about.
No. That's not what adults do.
You can't just make up an absurd claim & then hang your hat on that.
It's why you Apple trolls are Apple trolls after all.
Nobody does that except you Apple trolls.
You are like children in your complete lack of adult reasoning skills.
Samsung support is a little more generous but only up to about 5 years. https://endoflife.date/samsung-mobile
One thing about you Apple trolls is you never click on links.
I gave you Samsung links for 7 years and 7 releases. Same with Google.
You Apple trolls are so desperate to make the fact Apple has the worst
support in the industry "go away" that you didn't click on the links.
Samsung = 7 years, 7 releases (I believe simultaneously) <
https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-extends-android-and-security-updates-to-7-years/>
"Samsung phones now come backed with seven years' worth of
security updates and seven generations of OS upgrades."
Google = 7 years, 7 releases (I believe simultaneously)
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https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/google-pixel-8-software-updates>
"That support covers everything, including full Android updates,
the regular Pixel feature drops and security updates."
Apple = 5 years, probably 5 releases (never more than 1 at a time!)
*Apple finally confirms how long it will support iPhones*
*and it's less than Samsung and Google* <
https://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-software-support-commitment-3449135/>
And, get this: Apple only did so because the UK forced them to do it!
*Apple Commits to at Least Five Years of iPhone Security Updates*
"Apple has revealed its commitment to a minimum of five years of
iPhone security software updates from the date a device is
launched, thanks to a new legal requirement in the United Kingdom" <
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/06/apple-iphone-security-updates-five-year-minimum/>
Please cite evidence to the contrary. Otherwise you are simply a liar.
What's sad is you Apple trolls know nothing about Project Mainline, which
has been around since 2019, where *every* single Android phone since 2019
is patched monthly and where for operating system updates, Samsung & Google promise, in writing, 7 years and 7 releases, while Apple has nothing like
it.
Apple's support is the *worst* in the industry, which, by the way, is also likely why the government says the iPhone is the most exploited phone.
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https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
What's consistent over the years is you Apple trolls never learn the facts, even though NOTHING above hasn't been told to you many times.
You *hate* that your believe system is *destroyed* by mere facts.
So you call me a "liar" because your child-like brain can't handle facts.
What you Apple trolls do, is deny everything, until the adults give up.
Only on the Apple newsgroups do you find this rather strange behavior.
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