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A few years back Alan Baker claimed that his tiny 500 square foot
Vancouver condo was valued about the same as my 3000+ square foot 4
bedroom, 2.5 bath, 2 car garage Carmel Indiana home. He stated the
difference was Vancouver is such an attractive place to live that people
will pay much higher prices for housing.
I claimed that the cause was a Vancouver housing shortage. That was, and
is even more now, a valid claim. Watch this recent video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD5ejnj2miw
Recent Redfin estimates for similar condos in Alan's neighborhood are
valued at about $1,000/sq ft, making Alan's humble abode's value about $500,000. Assuming that's in $Canadian, about $US350,000. My home based
on recent comparables is valued at about $US490,000 on Redfin, or about $US200/sq ft.
Of course the 2 properties are quite different. A 2618 W 15th Avenue
2600 sq ft, 4 bedroom, 2.5 bath, single family house at in Alan's neighborhood shows a Redfin value of $C3,000,000 or about $US2,100,000. Fixer-uppers in different neighborhoods can be found for less.
If Vancouver incomes were higher than Carmel that would help at least
make higher home values affordable. Median Vancouver household income is about $C82,000 or $US57,400.
https://globalnews.ca/news/10401449/vancouver-full-blown-crisis-housing- affordability-report/
https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Demographics/BC/Vancouver- Demographics.html#:~:text=Median%20household%20income%20%2482%2C000%20,tax%20household%20income%20%2472%2C000
For Carmel? $US130,000. Housing here is a heck of a lot more affordable
than Vancouver BC.
https://www.city-data.com/income/income-Carmel-Indiana.html
Bottom line? No wonder 67 year old not-retired Alan Baker
still lives in the tiny, very expensive, condo he moved into in Fall
1994, 30 years ago. Very unlikely he can afford much of an upgrade.
On 12/21/2024 4:10 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2024-12-21 12:51, Tom Elam wrote:
A few years back Alan Baker claimed that his tiny 500 square foot
Vancouver condo was valued about the same as my 3000+ square foot 4
bedroom, 2.5 bath, 2 car garage Carmel Indiana home. He stated the
difference was Vancouver is such an attractive place to live that
people will pay much higher prices for housing.
I claimed that the cause was a Vancouver housing shortage. That was,
and is even more now, a valid claim. Watch this recent video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD5ejnj2miw
Recent Redfin estimates for similar condos in Alan's neighborhood are
valued at about $1,000/sq ft, making Alan's humble abode's value
about $500,000. Assuming that's in $Canadian, about $US350,000. My
home based on recent comparables is valued at about $US490,000 on
Redfin, or about $US200/sq ft.
Of course the 2 properties are quite different. A 2618 W 15th Avenue
2600 sq ft, 4 bedroom, 2.5 bath, single family house at in Alan's
neighborhood shows a Redfin value of $C3,000,000 or about
$US2,100,000. Fixer-uppers in different neighborhoods can be found
for less.
If Vancouver incomes were higher than Carmel that would help at least
make higher home values affordable. Median Vancouver household income
is about $C82,000 or $US57,400.
https://globalnews.ca/news/10401449/vancouver-full-blown-crisis-
housing- affordability-report/
https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Demographics/BC/Vancouver-
Demographics.html#:~:text=Median%20household%20income%20%2482%2C000%20,tax%20household%20income%20%2472%2C000
For Carmel? $US130,000. Housing here is a heck of a lot more
affordable than Vancouver BC.
https://www.city-data.com/income/income-Carmel-Indiana.html
Bottom line? No wonder 67 year old not-retired Alan Baker
still lives in the tiny, very expensive, condo he moved into in Fall
1994, 30 years ago. Very unlikely he can afford much of an upgrade.
Are you still whining, Liarboy?
And I'm not 67.
Still think I'm just whining, Liarboy?
A few years back Alan Baker claimed
On Dec 21, 2024, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <vk79nm$6qc3$1@dont-email.me>):
A few years back Alan Baker claimed
How long have you guys been going back and forth calling each other liars. Years? Decades? This beef is massive. Do you know what’s also massive? The low-taper fade meme. Get a life. Watch Pretty Cure.
On 1/8/25 2:59 AM, Chud McCobson wrote:
On Dec 21, 2024, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <vk79nm$6qc3$1@dont-email.me>):
A few years back Alan Baker claimed
How long have you guys been going back and forth calling each other liars. Years? Decades? This beef is massive. Do you know what’s also massive? The
low-taper fade meme. Get a life. Watch Pretty Cure.
The usual pattern is that Tommy trolls with some "dig" at someone.
Naturally, the options are to simply ignore, or to fire back.
This "housing" based troll from Tommy is an old retread. He's a
longtime resident in an inexpensive suburbia area, so its not hard to
have a decently sized place due to its low $/sqft, so it becomes his
basis to claim he's living in a Disneyland paradise and no one else can
come close.
Of course there's many other metrics besides cost per square foot of
housing, case in point:
"A new study by WalletHub has found that New Jersey is the 3rd happiest
state in the country.
The study compared the 50 states using factors such as mental health,
divorce rates, and finances.
Hawaii ranked first in the study, followed by Maryland. Utah came in
fourth, while Delaware rounded out the top 5. Louisiana ranked last."
<https://newjersey.news12.com/new-jersey-ranked-3rd-happiest-state-in-the-coun
Of course, to find where Indiana ranked, go find the original:
<https://wallethub.com/edu/happiest-states/6959>
And we see that Indiana is way down in 36th place, with a score of
45.92. That's a ~15 point deficit vs a Top 5 for happiness, which also
serves to help explain Tommy's trolls' underlying jealousy of others.
-hh
On 1/8/25 2:59 AM, Chud McCobson wrote:And not to dis New Jersey...
On Dec 21, 2024, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <vk79nm$6qc3$1@dont-email.me>):
A few years back Alan Baker claimed
How long have you guys been going back and forth calling each other
liars.
Years? Decades? This beef is massive. Do you know what’s also massive?
The
low-taper fade meme. Get a life. Watch Pretty Cure.
The usual pattern is that Tommy trolls with some "dig" at someone.
Naturally, the options are to simply ignore, or to fire back.
This "housing" based troll from Tommy is an old retread. He's a
longtime resident in an inexpensive suburbia area, so its not hard to
have a decently sized place due to its low $/sqft, so it becomes his
basis to claim he's living in a Disneyland paradise and no one else can
come close.
Of course there's many other metrics besides cost per square foot of
housing, case in point:
"A new study by WalletHub has found that New Jersey is the 3rd happiest
state in the country.
The study compared the 50 states using factors such as mental health,
divorce rates, and finances.
Hawaii ranked first in the study, followed by Maryland. Utah came in
fourth, while Delaware rounded out the top 5. Louisiana ranked last."
<https://newjersey.news12.com/new-jersey-ranked-3rd-happiest-state-in- the-country>
Of course, to find where Indiana ranked, go find the original:
<https://wallethub.com/edu/happiest-states/6959>
And we see that Indiana is way down in 36th place, with a score of
45.92. That's a ~15 point deficit vs a Top 5 for happiness, which also serves to help explain Tommy's trolls' underlying jealousy of others.
On 1/8/2025 3:37 PM, -hh wrote:
On 1/8/25 2:59 AM, Chud McCobson wrote:
On Dec 21, 2024, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <vk79nm$6qc3$1@dont-email.me>):
A few years back Alan Baker claimed
How long have you guys been going back and forth calling each other
liars.
Years? Decades? This beef is massive. Do you know what’s also
massive? The
low-taper fade meme. Get a life. Watch Pretty Cure.
The usual pattern is that Tommy trolls with some "dig" at someone.
Naturally, the options are to simply ignore, or to fire back.
This "housing" based troll from Tommy is an old retread. He's a
longtime resident in an inexpensive suburbia area, so its not hard to
have a decently sized place due to its low $/sqft, so it becomes his
basis to claim he's living in a Disneyland paradise and no one else
can come close.
Of course there's many other metrics besides cost per square foot of
housing, case in point:
"A new study by WalletHub has found that New Jersey is the 3rd
happiest state in the country.
The study compared the 50 states using factors such as mental health,
divorce rates, and finances.
Hawaii ranked first in the study, followed by Maryland. Utah came in
fourth, while Delaware rounded out the top 5. Louisiana ranked last."
<https://newjersey.news12.com/new-jersey-ranked-3rd-happiest-state-in-
the-country>
Of course, to find where Indiana ranked, go find the original:
<https://wallethub.com/edu/happiest-states/6959>
And we see that Indiana is way down in 36th place, with a score of
45.92. That's a ~15 point deficit vs a Top 5 for happiness, which
also serves to help explain Tommy's trolls' underlying jealousy of
others.
-hh
So, if NJ is so great and Indiana so unhappy people should be flocking
to NJ and leaving Indiana, right? Population growth should be in general highest where people are the happiest, right?
Fact check next...
On 1/16/2025 11:06 PM, -hh wrote:
On 1/16/25 10:02 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
On 1/8/2025 3:37 PM, -hh wrote:
On 1/8/25 2:59 AM, Chud McCobson wrote:
On Dec 21, 2024, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <vk79nm$6qc3$1@dont-email.me>):
A few years back Alan Baker claimed
How long have you guys been going back and forth calling each other
liars.
Years? Decades? This beef is massive. Do you know what’s also
massive? The
low-taper fade meme. Get a life. Watch Pretty Cure.
The usual pattern is that Tommy trolls with some "dig" at someone.
Naturally, the options are to simply ignore, or to fire back.
This "housing" based troll from Tommy is an old retread. He's a
longtime resident in an inexpensive suburbia area, so its not hard
to have a decently sized place due to its low $/sqft, so it becomes
his basis to claim he's living in a Disneyland paradise and no one
else can come close.
Of course there's many other metrics besides cost per square foot of
housing, case in point:
"A new study by WalletHub has found that New Jersey is the 3rd
happiest state in the country.
The study compared the 50 states using factors such as mental
health, divorce rates, and finances.
Hawaii ranked first in the study, followed by Maryland. Utah came in
fourth, while Delaware rounded out the top 5. Louisiana ranked last."
<https://newjersey.news12.com/new-jersey-ranked-3rd-happiest-state-
in- the-country>
Of course, to find where Indiana ranked, go find the original:
<https://wallethub.com/edu/happiest-states/6959>
And we see that Indiana is way down in 36th place, with a score of
45.92. That's a ~15 point deficit vs a Top 5 for happiness, which
also serves to help explain Tommy's trolls' underlying jealousy of
others.
-hh
So, if NJ is so great and Indiana so unhappy people should be
flocking to NJ and leaving Indiana, right? Population growth should
be in general highest where people are the happiest, right?
Happiness could be a motivation for migration, but it can't be the
sole factor for making a move. Other factors include things like
economics (job availability), finances (get a job), social network
(desire to be suitably proximate to family), climate and/or
geographical preferences, personal interests, pastimes, etc: its a
long list.
Your entire list is a set of factors that contribute to happiness. LOL