• Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?

    From -hh@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Sat Nov 23 10:01:03 2024
    On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc

    Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

    I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
    asshole you are

    And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
    cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t

    No thanks, asshole.

    Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.

    LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S. From
    your own CBC!

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-hits-10- year-high-1.7218479 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-canadians- report-1.7125990

    Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
    difference in populations the per capita difference is something like 70 Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.

    https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/

    Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for decades.
    Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for example.

    Plus there's more depth than just the top line number. For example, the
    second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants was pretty steady
    at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and 2022's rebound to 53K is probably just an rebound as it reverts to the mean.


    There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to them.

    If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security gutted
    as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?


    Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is so attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next president.
    Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, feel about the illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as Canada it would not be
    such an issue here.

    People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern border.
    Not many walk across Canada's southern border.

    Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
    currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to try
    to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:

    <https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Sat Nov 23 15:49:50 2024
    On 2024-11-23 15:45, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc

    Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

    I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
    asshole you are

    And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
    cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t

    No thanks, asshole.

    Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.

    Not raking muck, those links are cream on the top of the evidence.


    Whine some more, asshole.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Sat Nov 23 22:17:53 2024
    On 11/23/24 6:50 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/23/2024 10:01 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc

    Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

    I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
    asshole you are

    And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
    cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t

    No thanks, asshole.

    Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.

    LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S.
    From your own CBC!

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-hits-10-
    year-high-1.7218479
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-
    canadians- report-1.7125990

    Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
    difference in populations the per capita difference is something like
    70 Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.

    https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/

    Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for
    decades.   Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for example.

    Plus there's more depth than just the top line number.  For example,
    the second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants was pretty
    steady at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and 2022's rebound
    to 53K is probably just an rebound as it reverts to the mean.


    There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to them.

    If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security
    gutted as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?


    Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is so
    attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next president.
    Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, feel about
    the illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as Canada it would
    not be such an issue here.

    People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern
    border. Not many walk across Canada's southern border.

    Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
    currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to try
    to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:

    <https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-
    mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>


    -hh

    Canada has a huge problem. The dependency ratio is increasing long term (dependent pop/total pop) as citizen birth rates have dropped. Thus
    encourage immigration form countries with higher birth rates. That has
    caused another problem:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMBKMWsVRc

    You've not looked at the USA's ratio, have you?

    And FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the
    face, but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Wed Nov 20 10:31:45 2024
    On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc

    Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

    I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an asshole
    you are

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Thu Nov 21 10:39:40 2024
    On 2024-11-21 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc

    Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

    I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
    asshole you are

    An asshole for pointing that Vancouver is a very expensive city to try
    and live in?

    Yup.

    Motive matters, asshole.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Thu Nov 21 10:40:00 2024
    On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc

    Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

    I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
    asshole you are

    And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o- cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t

    No thanks, asshole.

    Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue Nov 26 13:59:25 2024
    On 2024-11-26 13:56, -hh wrote:
    On 11/26/24 1:53 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/23/2024 10:17 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 11/23/24 6:50 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/23/2024 10:01 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc

    Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

    I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an >>>>>>>>> asshole you are

    And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one: >>>>>>>>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
    cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t

    No thanks, asshole.

    Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.

    LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S. >>>>>> From your own CBC!

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-
    hits-10- year-high-1.7218479
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-
    canadians- report-1.7125990

    Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the >>>>>> difference in populations the per capita difference is something
    like 70 Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada. >>>>>>
    https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/

    Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for
    decades.   Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for
    example.

    Plus there's more depth than just the top line number.  For
    example, the second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants
    was pretty steady at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and
    2022's rebound to 53K is probably just an rebound as it reverts to
    the mean.


    There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to
    them.

    If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security
    gutted as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?


    Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is
    so attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next
    president. Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, >>>>>> feel about the illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as
    Canada it would not be such an issue here.

    People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern
    border. Not many walk across Canada's southern border.

    Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
    currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to
    try to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:

    <https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-
    mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>


    -hh

    Canada has a huge problem. The dependency ratio is increasing long
    term (dependent pop/total pop) as citizen birth rates have dropped.
    Thus encourage immigration form countries with higher birth rates.
    That has caused another problem:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMBKMWsVRc

    You've not looked at the USA's ratio, have you?

    And FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the
    face, but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it.

    -hh

    Oh but yes I have. I once taught a University of Indianapolis course
    named "Economics of Aging" and devoted an entire lecture to this topic.

    And this 'once upon a time' was ... how many decades ago?

    We have a dependency ratio problem too, as do almost all developed
    economies.

    So is the US dependency ratio better than Canada's, for why you
    specifically singled out Canada as not being an attempt to troll Alan?

    Let's check:  USA 54.4% vs Canada 53.6% = not better.



    Canada has not promoted residential development to match population
    growth from skilled labor immigration. As this video explains Canadian
    investment has been funneled to the U.S. where opportunities are
    better. See the chart at 9:36. Demand increased, supply did not,
    housing prices and rental rates soared while investment moved south.

    The U.S. has allowed millions of unskilled low earning capacity
    migrants (not immigrants) into the country, creating a different kind
    of housing crisis. Ours is that too many of these migrants can't
    afford decent housing of any kind, so they make do by stuffing
    themselves into small cheap apartments.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRKZJnJ7b4

    How is that really any different from 'Flop Houses' from a century ago?

    Plus you're being conveniently silent on the point I made, namely:

    "FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the face,
    but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it."

    But yeah, sure, try to go point at Canada, for Luke 4:23-30 applies.
    I'm an atheist, but I'm guessing that that's the one about the beam in
    one's own eye.

    :-)

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Tue Nov 26 16:56:34 2024
    On 11/26/24 1:53 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/23/2024 10:17 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 11/23/24 6:50 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/23/2024 10:01 AM, -hh wrote:
    On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc

    Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

    I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an >>>>>>>> asshole you are

    And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
    cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t

    No thanks, asshole.

    Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.

    LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S.
    From your own CBC!

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-
    hits-10- year-high-1.7218479
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-
    canadians- report-1.7125990

    Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
    difference in populations the per capita difference is something
    like 70 Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.

    https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/

    Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for
    decades.   Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for example. >>>>
    Plus there's more depth than just the top line number.  For example,
    the second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants was pretty
    steady at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and 2022's rebound
    to 53K is probably just an rebound as it reverts to the mean.


    There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to
    them.

    If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security
    gutted as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?


    Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is
    so attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next president.
    Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, feel about
    the illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as Canada it
    would not be such an issue here.

    People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern
    border. Not many walk across Canada's southern border.

    Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
    currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to
    try to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:

    <https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-
    mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>


    -hh

    Canada has a huge problem. The dependency ratio is increasing long
    term (dependent pop/total pop) as citizen birth rates have dropped.
    Thus encourage immigration form countries with higher birth rates.
    That has caused another problem:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMBKMWsVRc

    You've not looked at the USA's ratio, have you?

    And FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the
    face, but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it.

    -hh

    Oh but yes I have. I once taught a University of Indianapolis course
    named "Economics of Aging" and devoted an entire lecture to this topic.

    And this 'once upon a time' was ... how many decades ago?

    We have a dependency ratio problem too, as do almost all developed
    economies.

    So is the US dependency ratio better than Canada's, for why you
    specifically singled out Canada as not being an attempt to troll Alan?

    Let's check: USA 54.4% vs Canada 53.6% = not better.



    Canada has not promoted residential development to match population
    growth from skilled labor immigration. As this video explains Canadian investment has been funneled to the U.S. where opportunities are better.
    See the chart at 9:36. Demand increased, supply did not, housing prices
    and rental rates soared while investment moved south.

    The U.S. has allowed millions of unskilled low earning capacity migrants
    (not immigrants) into the country, creating a different kind of housing crisis. Ours is that too many of these migrants can't afford decent
    housing of any kind, so they make do by stuffing themselves into small
    cheap apartments.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRKZJnJ7b4

    How is that really any different from 'Flop Houses' from a century ago?

    Plus you're being conveniently silent on the point I made, namely:

    "FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the face,
    but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it."

    But yeah, sure, try to go point at Canada, for Luke 4:23-30 applies.


    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Nov 27 06:50:31 2024
    On 11/26/24 4:59 PM, Alan wrote:
    Luke 4:23-30

    4:23 is where "Physician, heal thyself" came from.

    23 Jesus said to them, “Surely you will quote this proverb to me: ‘Physician, heal yourself!’ And you will tell me, ‘Do here in your hometown what we have heard that you did in Capernaum.’”


    The rest was to get to a mic drop:

    24...27

    28 All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29
    They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the
    hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff.
    30 But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Nov 27 11:47:05 2024
    On 2024-11-27 03:50, -hh wrote:
    On 11/26/24 4:59 PM, Alan wrote:
    Luke 4:23-30

    4:23 is where "Physician, heal thyself" came from.

    23 Jesus said to them, “Surely you will quote this proverb to me: ‘Physician, heal yourself!’ And you will tell me, ‘Do here in your hometown what we have heard that you did in Capernaum.’”


    The rest was to get to a mic drop:

    24...27

    28 All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard
    this. 29 They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the
    brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him
    off the cliff. 30 But he walked right through the crowd and went on
    his way.
    Hey... ...I took a shot.

    ;-)

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