• Re: Wildfires in Jasper NP, Canada

    From -hh@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Mon Jul 29 18:28:30 2024
    Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:21 PM, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>



    -hh

    We did not get to go to ice fields up that way. The tour company
    substituted a very nice local trip with lunch. Otherwise all went off as scheduled. We had a great time. The train trip was the highlight. If you
    go choose the Gold level.


    Glad to hear that you’re safe & relatively unaffected.

    We had found Jasper to be a cute town; seems apparently that the main drag
    has been wiped out, which is a loss. Ice fields up that way were okay…didn’t leave a huge impression on us, since we’ve been to a few others
    prior…”ice is ice” to a certain degree :-)

    For trains, was on one today (two, actually) to go to visit an Edgar Degas special exhibit. Learned that with one exception, all of his bronzes were
    made posthumously, as they were his private working pieces made only for developing his own paintings in his studio.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Mon Jul 29 13:41:29 2024
    On 2024-07-28 17:02, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:22 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-24 11:21, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>

    Based on his political leanings, I'm sure Tom doesn't believe in
    global warming.

    :-)


    Global warming has been going on for a very long time. The data are irrefutable.

    Love the careful phrasing there...

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Jul 29 13:42:34 2024
    On 2024-07-29 10:28, -hh wrote:
    Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:21 PM, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>



    -hh

    We did not get to go to ice fields up that way. The tour company
    substituted a very nice local trip with lunch. Otherwise all went off as
    scheduled. We had a great time. The train trip was the highlight. If you
    go choose the Gold level.


    Glad to hear that you’re safe & relatively unaffected.

    We had found Jasper to be a cute town; seems apparently that the main drag has been wiped out, which is a loss. Ice fields up that way were okay…didn’t leave a huge impression on us, since we’ve been to a few others
    prior…”ice is ice” to a certain degree :-)

    Yeah.. ...our Dad took us to see most of the sights from Jasper down to
    Banff, and the ice fields were kind of cool...

    ...once.


    For trains, was on one today (two, actually) to go to visit an Edgar Degas special exhibit. Learned that with one exception, all of his bronzes were made posthumously, as they were his private working pieces made only for developing his own paintings in his studio.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Mon Jul 29 20:22:19 2024
    On 2024-07-29 19:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/29/2024 4:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-28 17:02, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:22 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-24 11:21, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>

    Based on his political leanings, I'm sure Tom doesn't believe in
    global warming.

    :-)


    Global warming has been going on for a very long time. The data are
    irrefutable.

    Love the careful phrasing there...


    Nothing careful, empirical data going back hundreds of millions of years
    show that climate warms after cold ice ages. In the past natural events
    like the Siberian Traps have had warming effects far more severe than
    the current recovery from the last ice ages. OTOH "Snowball Earth" +-600
    ma also had a devastating effect on life. The earth warmed and life recovered.

    There is absolutely no doubt that atmospheric composition plays a role
    in climate.

    More careful phrasing.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Jul 30 08:23:27 2024
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-07-29 19:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/29/2024 4:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-28 17:02, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:22 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-24 11:21, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>

    Based on his political leanings, I'm sure Tom doesn't believe in
    global warming.

    :-)


    Global warming has been going on for a very long time. The data are
    irrefutable.

    Love the careful phrasing there...


    Nothing careful, empirical data going back hundreds of millions of years
    show that climate warms after cold ice ages. In the past natural events
    like the Siberian Traps have had warming effects far more severe than
    the current recovery from the last ice ages. OTOH "Snowball Earth" +-600
    ma also had a devastating effect on life. The earth warmed and life
    recovered.

    There is absolutely no doubt that atmospheric composition plays a role
    in climate.

    More careful phrasing.


    Indeed. There’s carefully nothing in there to note what role is played by changes in the rate of change.

    A lot of this is like the automotive mantra of “speed kills” .. it’s not the speed per se, but the sudden stop at the end = rate of change.

    -hh

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Wed Jul 31 05:40:04 2024
    Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote at 00:06 this Monday (GMT):
    On 7/24/2024 2:21 PM, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>



    -hh

    We did not get to go to ice fields up that way. The tour company
    substituted a very nice local trip with lunch. Otherwise all went off as scheduled. We had a great time. The train trip was the highlight. If you
    go choose the Gold level.


    Stay safe!
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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