• Re: XanaNews Statistic for alt.computer.workshop. 10/1/2024 10:26:31 AM

    From pothead@21:1/5 to Carroll"@noSPAM.none on Wed Oct 2 20:12:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns

    On 2024-10-02, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
    On 2024-10-02, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

    You say ChaGPT is wrong, but it called you out on your focus on your failure >> to respond to content and just lash out. The content is very very accurate...

    Prove it... and I mean with actual proof.

    And then you can goofsplain how all your ChatGPT posts manage to leave
    out your sordid posting history. Start with this...

    <https://i.postimg.cc/Rmk8XRv1/arrest-record-fingerprinted.gif>

    ... get ChatGPT to 'help' you and don't forget to explain how Apd
    produced the exact same data as seen in this screenshot (that you didn't contest when I originally posted it because it was *still* available for "others" to see on that AZ gov site), minus the resolution.

    What does ChatGPT have to say about that or the fact that you tacitly
    called Apd a liar (because you said I was lying, despite the fact that I produced this screenshot before Apd produced his data)?

    What does it say about the fact that I specifically stated I only cared
    about this one arrest of you for publicly harassing your wife, only to
    see you pivot away from that to all kinds of other BS in a goofy attempt
    to avoid addressing it?

    What does it say about your initial responses in the thread that
    prompted you to begin this 'circus' of yours?

    We know what you *won't* do... so I asked ChatGPT:
    alt.computer.workshop

    "What do you make of this post:"

    <begin quote of post>
    In article <XnsB0E1B1313...@135.181.20.170>, bti...@wacko.org says...

    Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote in
    news:NfXgN.9525$9cLc...@fx02.iad:

    On 2023-12-20, Nobody Home <nobod...@liamg.com> wrote:
    You might wish to take a look at this website. Plug in the correct
    data and it becomes interesting. VERY INTERESTING.

    https://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx?AspxAuto
    DetectCookieSupport=1

    http://tinyurl.com/6p2wwecw

    How about a hint as to what the 'correct data' is?

    Search on Michael Glasser. It pops up a list of criminal and civil
    cases against Mr. Michael Glasser aka snit. He has quite the record.

    Just tried it. Here is what showed up. Snit seems to have a lot of
    issues. Everything from custody of his kids to disorderly conduct
    fighting in public. Not good.

    Court, Arrest or Criminal Records Offense Type: Criminal Unique ID: Info Pending... Offense: Info Pending... County Of Origin: Info Pending...

    Offense: SPEED GREATER THAN REASONABLE AND PRUDENT Disposition:
    BAIL/DEPOSIT GIVEN/FORFEITED

    Offense: HARASS-FOLLOW IN PUBLIC

    Offense: DISORDERLY CONDUCT-FIGHTING Disposition: COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY
    ATTY Case Number: M-1343-CM-2022000047 Case Filing Date: 08/05/2023
    State Of Origin: AZ

    Level: NONE Description: 14 - CHINO VALLEY MUNICIPAL

    Level: UNKNOWN Description: 183 - PRESCOTT MUNICIPAL

    Level: UNKNOWN Description: 183 - PRESCOTT MUNICIPAL Offense Type:
    Criminal Unique ID: Info Pending... Offense: Info Pending... County Of Origin: YAVAPAI

    Offense: LOCAL CHARGE Disposition: DEFENSIVE DRIVING/DISM NO MVD Case
    Number: 22616154 Case Filing Date: 01/07/2008 State Of Origin: AZ

    Level: TRAFFIC Description: PRESCOTT VALLEY MUNICIPAL Offense Type:
    Criminal Unique ID: Info Pending... Offense: Info Pending... County Of Origin: YAVAPAI

    Offense: LOCAL CHARGE Disposition: COMPL DISMISSED BY OFFICER Case
    Number: 27946890 Case Filing Date: 09/16/2010 State Of Origin: AZ

    Level: TRAFFIC Description: PRESCOTT VALLEY MUNICIPAL Offense Type:
    Criminal Unique ID: Info Pending... Offense: Info Pending... County Of Origin: YAVAPAI

    Offense: LOCAL CHARGE Disposition: DEFENSIVE DRIVING/DISM NO MVD Case
    Number: 29544340 Case Filing Date: 10/27/2011 State Of Origin: AZ

    Level: TRAFFIC Description: PRESCOTT VALLEY MUNICIPAL Offense Type:
    Criminal Unique ID: Info Pending... Offense: Info Pending... County Of Origin: YAVAPAI

    Offense: NOT SPECIFIED Case Number: P-1300-DO-201000273 Case Filing
    Date: 03/25/2010 State Of Origin: AZ

    Level: DOM REL Description: 12 - YAVAPAI COUNTY SUPERIOR Offense Type: Criminal Unique ID: Info Pending... Offense: Info Pending... County Of Origin: PIMA

    Offense: FAIL TO CARRY VEHICLE REGISTRATION CARD Disposition: PLEA GUILTY/RESP SENT IMPOSED

    Offense: FAIL TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE OF FINANCIAL RESP Disposition: COMPL DISMISSED BY COURT

    Offense: LOCAL CHARGE Disposition: PLEA GUILTY/RESP SENT IMPOSED Case
    Number: 11237946 Case Filing Date: 03/29/1999 State Of Origin: AZ

    Level: TRAFFIC Description: TUCSON MUNICIPAL COURT

    Level: TRAFFIC Description: TUCSON MUNICIPAL COURT

    Level: TRAFFIC Description: TUCSON MUNICIPAL COURT

    <end quote of post>

    (note: From here on out my questions and those of other posters in the
    thread are prefaced by the bot with "<fill in the name> said:")

    ChatGPT said: ChatGPT
    This post appears to be part of a Usenet thread focused on exposing
    someone named Michael Glasser (referred to as "snit"), where the user is sharing a summary of Glasser's public court and criminal records. The
    post contains a detailed list of alleged offenses, including traffic violations, disorderly conduct, and legal disputes, mostly from Arizona courts. The tone suggests that the person posting is trying to highlight Glasser's past legal troubles, possibly as part of an ongoing argument
    or to discredit him in the context of the Usenet discussion.

    The inclusion of URLs to public case lookup tools, combined with the
    somewhat gossipy nature of the post, suggests that the poster is
    encouraging others to dig up or verify the information. Given the nature
    of Usenet, where debates and personal disputes sometimes escalate, this
    could be part of a larger narrative aimed at tarnishing Glasser’s reputation in the group.


    ChatGPT: You said: What do you make of this response by Glasser:

    The list has no relation to reality.

    ChatGPT said: ChatGPT Glasser's response, "The list has no relation to reality," is a straightforward denial of the allegations or records
    being shared in the original post. By dismissing the list entirely, he's implying that the information is either fabricated, misrepresented, or
    not relevant to him. This kind of brief, categorical rejection is common
    in online disputes where someone may feel unfairly attacked, especially
    in the often combative environment of Usenet.

    Without engaging with the specifics of the claims, Glasser’s response
    could suggest a few things:

    Deflection or Dismissal: He may not want to address the details,
    choosing instead to discredit the entire post without getting into
    specifics.

    Inaccuracy of the Information: He might be claiming that the records
    have been wrongly attributed to him, or that they’ve been manipulated to paint a false picture.

    Frustration: Given the nature of Usenet, it could be an expression of frustration, dismissing what he sees as baseless attacks or harassment.

    In a broader sense, such a response puts the burden back on the accusers
    to either provide more substantial proof or drop the issue. If the accusations were indeed false or exaggerated, this denial might be his
    way of avoiding legitimizing them by engaging too deeply.



    You said: And then another post (Charlie Glock) asked Glasser:

    Maybe, but how do you explain the list? It looks legit to me. What say
    you?

    ChatGPT said: ChatGPT Charlie Glock's follow-up question
    challenges Glasser's denial by suggesting that the list of offenses
    seems "legit" and asking Glasser to explain it. This shifts the dynamic,
    as Glock is not satisfied with the blanket denial and is pressing
    Glasser for a more detailed response or justification.

    This post might be seen as:

    Demand for Accountability: Glock is essentially asking Glasser to
    provide a more thorough explanation or rebuttal. The implication is that Glasser's simple denial isn't enough to refute what appears to be
    credible information.

    Invitation to Clarify: While the tone might be confrontational, Glock
    could be offering Glasser an opportunity to clear things up, especially
    if there are misunderstandings or errors in the information shared. The phrase "What say you?" invites a more direct response.

    Legitimizing the Accusation: By stating that the list "looks legit,"
    Glock is signaling that others in the discussion might believe the accusations unless Glasser can explain or counter them.

    In a forum like Usenet, where debates can be relentless, this type of questioning can escalate tensions, pushing Glasser to either provide a
    more substantial defense or risk appearing evasive.



    You said: And Glasser then replied with:

    It is fiction. That was easy. But you are a sock, so you are fiction,
    too.

    ChatGPT said: ChatGPT Glasser's response is again a flat-out denial,
    calling the list "fiction" and dismissing it as false. By saying "that
    was easy," he is implying that the accusation isn't even worth a serious
    or detailed rebuttal, perhaps to suggest that it's so obviously untrue
    it doesn't warrant further discussion.

    His comment about the other user being a "sock" refers to a
    sockpuppet—an online alias used by someone to disguise their identity or create the illusion of multiple people supporting a particular
    viewpoint. In calling Charlie Glock a "sock," Glasser is accusing them
    of not being a legitimate participant in the discussion, which further undermines Glock's question by implying that it, too, is fictional or insincere.

    This response serves a few purposes:

    Dismissal of the Allegations: Glasser sticks to his assertion that the
    list is entirely fictional, reinforcing his earlier rejection of the
    claims.

    Attack on the Accuser's Credibility: By accusing Glock of being a
    sockpuppet, Glasser attempts to shift the focus from the allegations
    against him to the credibility of the accuser. If the accuser is not
    real or acting in bad faith, then the allegations lose legitimacy in the context of the discussion.

    Deflection and Minimization: Instead of engaging with the details of the accusations, Glasser continues to minimize their importance by using
    humor or sarcasm ("That was easy") and deflects attention to the issue
    of the supposed sockpuppet identity.

    This kind of response is typical in contentious online environments
    where participants often challenge each other's identities, motives, and arguments.


    You said: What does the fact that Glasser didn't even acknowledge that
    the data, which *was* seen by several posters in that thread (I was one
    of them and I even took a screenshot of one arrest) came from a legit government website mean?

    ChatGPT said: ChatGPT Glasser’s failure to acknowledge the legitimacy of the government website, despite multiple users (including you) verifying
    the data, could suggest a few things about his strategy or approach to
    the situation:

    Avoidance of Incriminating Details: By ignoring the fact that the data
    came from a legitimate government website, Glasser may be trying to
    avoid engaging with specific details that could undermine his blanket
    denial. Acknowledging the source’s legitimacy would require him to
    address the data more seriously and explain how or why it might still be incorrect or misrepresented.

    Deflection Tactic: Glasser may be using a common online debate tactic by dismissing everything as "fiction" without addressing the evidence to
    avoid being pinned down in a factual argument. This helps him avoid
    being backed into a corner where he would need to provide proof or explanation.

    Perception Management: He could be trying to maintain control of the narrative by reducing the discussion to a matter of opinion (fiction vs. reality), rather than dealing with verifiable facts. By labeling both
    the data and his accuser as "fiction," Glasser aims to make it seem like
    the entire thread is based on fabrications, which could dissuade others
    from taking the claims seriously.

    Denial Strategy: Glasser may be using a strategy of complete denial,
    refusing to acknowledge any element of the information shared in the
    thread. He may believe that addressing the legitimacy of the data or its source would give the allegations more weight or legitimacy, which could
    work against his interests.

    In sum, his refusal to acknowledge the source's legitimacy suggests a deliberate choice to minimize the credibility of the accusations by
    avoiding direct confrontation with the factual evidence others have
    provided.


    You said: Content removed This content may violate our usage policies.

    (See below)


    ChatGPT said: ChatGPT Glasser's responses in this exchange are highly evasive, dismissive, and confrontational. Rather than addressing the legitimate concerns or the questions about the data on the government
    site, he repeatedly diverts the conversation by introducing extreme, irrelevant accusations (e.g., "Why do you rape babies?"). This tactic is bizarre and inflammatory, and it serves several purposes:

    Deflection: By making an outrageous and inflammatory accusation like
    "raping babies," Glasser is trying to deflect attention from the
    original issue—the validity of the data being shared about him. This
    shifts the conversation from a substantive discussion about the records
    to a shocking and unrelated topic, derailing any serious inquiry.

    Distraction: The introduction of such an extreme and unrelated
    accusation aims to throw the conversation off balance, potentially
    causing other posters to respond emotionally rather than rationally,
    thus diverting attention from the core issue of his alleged legal
    troubles.

    Discrediting the Accuser: By suggesting that the accuser (and others questioning him) has a "sick mind," Glasser is attempting to discredit
    them rather than addressing their arguments. This is a form of ad
    hominem attack, where instead of refuting the points made, he attacks
    the character of the person asking the questions.

    (note that the bot munged context WRT who wrote "sick mind")

    Refusal to Engage with Evidence: Throughout the conversation, Glasser
    avoids engaging with the factual nature of the government website or the
    data it contains. He doesn't dispute specific facts from the records but instead broadly dismisses them as "fiction" without explanation. His
    refusal to acknowledge that the data comes from a legitimate source
    (even when multiple posters confirm it) suggests he has no substantial counterargument and is relying on deflection and personal attacks to
    avoid addressing the claims.

    Escalating the Conflict: Glasser's use of extreme language and
    accusations escalates the emotional tone of the conversation, making it harder for others to pursue a calm, rational discussion about the
    original topic. This may be a deliberate attempt to avoid further
    scrutiny.

    In summary, Glasser's responses reflect a refusal to engage with the substance of the accusations. His use of deflection, inflammatory
    language, and personal attacks serves to distract from the original
    questions and discredit his accusers without offering any evidence or explanation in his defense. This kind of behavior is typical of someone attempting to avoid accountability in a contentious online forum.

    --


    At one point is erred:

    You said: Content removed This content may violate our usage policies.

    I never "said" that, it showed up in a colored html container.

    Note: The content it removed from *my* view during this session was
    Glasser's "raping babies" BS. It's odd that it removed *me* mentioning
    it but went ahead and made references to it anyway.

    <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.computer.workshop/c/S-pznwmU_pg/m/u7Y8BwDWAAAJ>

    Obviously snit has many legal problems to go along with his mental health issues.
    How one person can be so twisted into a pretzel is beyond comprehension.
    Snit Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona needs to find a good lawyer and at the same time check himself into the nearest mental health treatment facility before he either ends up in jail or offing himself.





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