From the guide:

Casting a spell that requires Oratory is less likely to be effective if
you switch to a class that does not have Oratory as a native class
skill. This makes classes that use Alchemy less useful than you may think.

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Back to the drawing board. At first I thought it was just the low char. levels, but Treon likes to backfire in big matchups where it hurts. He
easily class changes into an alchemist, but there goes your fireball.
Had a lvl 11 valkyrie with spear+2 too which will be a shame to put in
the recycle bin.

The party that killed 7 Savant Troopers in one go.

This is all for my wiz 7 game (I've got ongoing games in 6-8).

The up side is that I've got a promising Wiz 6 party. I made it to the
Toll Troll a couple days ago which is the furthest I've been since the 90s.

This is what's important:

"Party import is most enhanced by advanced items and especially weapons
in particular."

It's not about getting all your spells moved across or having your
experience decimate the landscape - that will all be leveled in time,
but like, for example, how the spear + 2 shows up in Wiz 8 as "Mystic
Spear" and is even more splendid and deadly.

It's probably a good place to stop. I'm up against a brick wall. I've
got to travel to Munkharama, Orkogre Castle etc. to get anything done.
Orkogre Castle is in a clearing in the Forest to the ...

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