• Re: Diablo IV

    From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 27 08:24:17 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:57:33 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 7/21/2024 10:12 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Arguably I may have worsened the experience by playing
    it on a console (honestly, any game that demands I use a gamepad feels
    worse to me) but I don't think I'd have had more fun on a PC.

    Ugh. I can't imagine. The game seems really set up for point and click.

    On the other hand I enjoyed Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance and Bard's Tale
    on the PS2 which are also ARPGs, so maybe I'm wrong.

    Yeah, I got a lot of "Dark Alliance" vibes while playing D3 on
    console. I don't know how well the gameplay on console compares to the
    PC version, but it was... adequate. My problems with the game had more
    to do with the game's design (shallow gameworlds, linear quests, too
    much combat, unrewarding loot) than the fact I had to use a gamepad.
    The same problems, I'm pretty sure, I'd have had if I'd played "Diablo
    3" on PC.

    But I can't necessarily disagree that the gamepad might have made the
    game worse.

    I actually rather enjoyed the "Dark Alliance" games, although I think
    that was more because I was so surprised that the games were at all
    playable with a gamepad. I expected a totally horrific experience, and >that... the "Dark Alliance" games weren't. They were simplistic, sure,
    but fun, in a mindless popcorn-movie way.

    [Yay for low expectations!]

    That said, I enjoyed "Diablo 3" a lot less than those older games.
    But, again, that's more because I just don't care for "Diablo's"
    design. Those games, it seems to me, are more focussed on their
    multplayer experience than the single-player, and this effects
    everything in the game: the equipment, the skills, the monster
    placement, the pacing. Everything is designed to be balanced in
    multiplayer. "Dark Alliance" is primarily a single-player experience,
    and this is reflected in how your character steadily becomes more and
    more powerful. It's just more rewarding gameplay as far as I'm
    concerned.

    I never got that from Diablo 1 and 2.
    I mostly played single player, once in a blue moon doing modem network
    games with a friend.
    We'd both start up a network game usually soloing, but if one ran into a problem that couldn't be dealt with solo, phone for help and the other
    would join the game to help.

    Not once did I set foot on battle.net until forced to with diablo3.

    Which I also played single player, only with a wait to log in, lag and
    random disconnects.

    This is also why I did NOT buy the upgraded hi-res Diablo2, because you
    have to be online on battle.net and I have literally zero interest in
    that, single player only and forcing me to be online for single player
    with all the issues blizzards online play comes with ... FUCK THAT!

    Sell me the upgraded graphics with what the original game came with, the freedom to not be online when I want to solo play. Freedom from lag,
    freedom from disconnects, freedom from waiting in line just to play.

    So they fucked up the play, upgraded the graphics and want $55 for it, I
    say again FUCK THAT!

    $30 max for the upgraded graphics, with original play.

    As it is, they'd have to pay me to take it with that battle.net
    albatross hanging from it.

    Xocyll

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Wed Jul 31 12:12:59 2024
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> writes:

    I found the first area in W3 a slog, it's kind of a really long
    tutorial. If you do get it, and you find it a slog, I'd suggest
    trying the option to start in one of the DLCs so you don't have to go
    to the first area, you get to start with some gear and levels if you
    do that too.

    Good to know. Yeah, I at least got bogged down in the first area of
    W3. Just didn't see the point although I liked the TV show well
    enough. Looks like I have the "Complete Edition" on GoG and I think it's
    even installed. So maybe there's another look into W3 in August.

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  • From Mark P. Nelson@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Aug 2 15:51:34 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote in news:192najh9mjkh4j1nqn7795e7oedfjloj46@4ax.com:

    But most of that isn't evident from the start. It feels very much
    'generic fantasy world #5662' and it gives you very little reason to
    care to explore it. People who persevere will enjoy it, but I wouldn't
    be surprised if a lot of players gave up before leaving the tutorial
    map. It doesn't onboard new players well at all.

    That's what I did. More than once.

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