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    From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 12 07:13:56 2024
    Diversity, equity and inclusion based game design will be the downfall
    of many AAA studios.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAoJCJhrrgA

    Unlike the US based companies that are starting to withdraw all their
    DEI nonsense after they've watched the sustainability of their
    organizations implode as a result of implementing it, AAA game studios
    have a much bigger problem....

    ... because they didn't just integrate politics into their internal
    culture, they propagated it to the products they sell, and that's
    putting the malignant tumor in an organ where it's much harder to
    cure.

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  • From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 12 13:53:32 2024
    Diversity, equity and inclusion based game design will be the downfall
    of many AAA studios.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAoJCJhrrgA

    Unlike the US based companies that are starting to withdraw all their
    DEI nonsense after they've watched the sustainability of their
    organizations implode as a result of implementing it, AAA game studios
    have a much bigger problem....

    ... because they didn't just integrate politics into their internal
    culture, they propagated it to the products they sell, and that's
    putting the malignant tumor in an organ where it's much harder to
    cure.

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  • From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 12 19:33:57 2024
    Also don't mistake what I said there for a right-wing nut job rant.
    I'm so far from that it may not even be worth trying to explain. I
    have friends that are like family to me by the dozens in the music
    industry, and that is the most open-minded sub-culture you can
    imagine, with people of all types. Some of the great pioneers of
    synthesis were transgender, gay, black etc. and they all get nothing
    but respect.

    The problem is injecting politics into games in settings where it
    makes no sense and/or breaks immersion.

    Make a game where the backdrop is some modern urban or suburban
    setting, and you have many more liberties with character dialog,
    character customization, etc. without breaking immersion. Injecting
    copious amounts of female soliders running around in a multiplayer WWI
    or WWII game shooting and screaming is a design decision that could
    only be made after a chemical labotomy or major head trauma has
    affected the designer's sense of good judgement.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 13 17:47:51 2024
    Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:


    Also don't mistake what I said there for a right-wing nut job rant.
    I'm so far from that it may not even be worth trying to explain. I
    have friends that are like family to me by the dozens in the music
    industry, and that is the most open-minded sub-culture you can
    imagine, with people of all types. Some of the great pioneers of
    synthesis were transgender, gay, black etc. and they all get nothing
    but respect.

    It did sounds a bit like a right-wing nutjob rant, but you are not
    wrong.

    They really have gone off the deep end with rewriting history to be
    diverse and inclusive.

    Next up, Black, female, trans pilots in WW1 France fighting the Boche!!!

    Xocyll

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 20 12:28:17 2024
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On 13/09/2024 22:47, Xocyll wrote:
    It did sounds a bit like a right-wing nutjob rant, but you are not
    wrong.

    They really have gone off the deep end with rewriting history to be
    diverse and inclusive.

    Next up, Black, female, trans pilots in WW1 France fighting the Boche!!!

    To me it depends what the game is trying to achieve, so yes if a game is >geared towards historical accuracy then the details do matter so as not
    to break the immersion. If it's just themed around a historical event
    then there's a lot more flexibility in what you can do.

    Well yeah, if it's a recreation/sim at AdventureLandPark, anything goes.

    Then of course you have the problem of people seeing problems that just
    don't exist. I remember some people complaining about some WWI game
    having non-white soldiers in it. Well yeh as there were non-white
    soldiers in active combat in WWI.

    Thinking specifically Indian troops as part of the (then) British
    Empire.

    The flip side, people complaining about lack of diversity when it's historically accurate.

    Like OMG, where are the BIPOC Vikings!!!!!!!

    A group of raiders from three countries that were 100% white, and they
    wonder where the coloured folks are?

    When can we put these idiots in an asylum for forced education?
    [You get out when you can actually tell a fact from rhetoric.]

    SJW Reprogramming!

    Xocyll

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