Seems like Sony is back to its arrogance before fall... again!
PS5 Pro: 700 USD/800 Euros and that without stand and without drive
you can buy both items extra!

They will never learn, or the persons responsible for the PS3 are all
retired by now!

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On 9/11/2024 6:15 AM, Werner P. wrote:

Seems like Sony is back to its arrogance before fall... again!
PS5 Pro: 700 USD/800 Euros and that without stand and without drive
you can buy both items extra!

They will never learn, or the persons responsible for the PS3 are all
retired by now!

They can't retire, they haven't reached their sales goals yet to earn
their retirement payouts.

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dirty old man.

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On 11/09/2024 14:15, Werner P. wrote:

Seems like Sony is back to its arrogance before fall... again!
PS5 Pro: 700 USD/800 Euros and that without stand and without drive
you can buy both items extra!

They will never learn, or the persons responsible for the PS3 are all
retired by now!

I did watch something about this and one thing it reminded me of was the
days of low/medium settings being in stark contrast to high/ultra have generally passed. It's not that you can't see a difference but instead
it's just not as important as it used to be.

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Am 12.09.24 um 09:44 schrieb JAB:

I did watch something about this and one thing it reminded me of was the
days of low/medium settings being in stark contrast to high/ultra have generally passed. It's not that you can't see a difference but instead
it's just not as important as it used to be.

yes... definitely!
I guess it is more like FPS, but given that when I play I usually use a
Steam Deck nowadays I am a low end gamer anyway!

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On 9/12/2024 5:01 AM, Werner P. wrote:

Am 12.09.24 um 09:44 schrieb JAB:

I did watch something about this and one thing it reminded me of was
the days of low/medium settings being in stark contrast to high/ultra
have generally passed. It's not that you can't see a difference but
instead it's just not as important as it used to be.

yes... definitely!
I guess it is more like FPS, but given that when I play I usually use a
Steam Deck nowadays I am a low end gamer anyway!

And with a Steam Deck you can fight a real world CoD and help Ukraine!

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Am 12.09.24 um 17:53 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:

I'm generally not a fan of Nintendo but in this regard I think they
got it right. They hopped off the graphics-train and started focusing
on the experience of the game itself. Now, personally I think they
could have stood to stay on the train for a stop or too longer, but in general I agree they were right to stop chasing after top-end visuals.

I think Nintendo hopped off one generation too early, but they usually
release the console for their games and then everyone else has to deal
with the hardware.
And Nintendos games usually follow a comic graphics style (with a few exceptions like Metroid) so their games more or less are not that
demanding (again the latest Zeldas here being the exception)
And yes they nailed it with their dropping out perfectly! They can be
low cost enough and on the other hand they do not have to deal with a
hardware race at all and they are on proven ground so no bad surprises
are to be expected with a new hardware they design!



I would never buy a 4090 for instance wasted money, you can show off for
2 years then the successor comes out and your card performance now is
mid range, given that I have to earn my money and cannot burn it as I
please i only upgrade when really needed, and that has been quite a
while ago for my aging PC!

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Werner P. <werpu@gmx.at> wrote:

Seems like Sony is back to its arrogance before fall... again!
PS5 Pro: 700 USD/800 Euros and that without stand and without drive
you can buy both items extra!

They will never learn, or the persons responsible for the PS3 are all
retired by now!

I'm afraid that this is simply expected, the way the video console
industry was always going to go as it matured. Selling consoles at a
loss no longer makes financial sense, game license fees can't make up
for the difference. Technological progress isn't driving down chip
prices like it used to, instead inflation has increased costs all around.

It's also natural for consumer electonics markets to be stratified into expensinve high-end devices for people who can afford them and cheaper
devices for who can't. Even if the difference in functionality and
production cost is much smaller than the difference in price would
indicate.

At least with the PlayStation 5 Pro you're getting something that's going
to cost Sony not that much less than $700 to make and sell. Unlike say
a high-end TV which costs Sony about the same to make as a low-end TV
at half the price. Wether that new AMD GPU chip will deliver enough of
a noticible increase in graphics quality to make it worth the price is
almost beside the point. The real value for many people will come from
sense of status it gives them. Just like when they spend hundreds of
dollars on cosmetics in a game or buy an expensive high-end Sony TV.

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