• Re: CRAP Poll: Favorite Era of Gaming

    From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Wed Sep 4 08:58:26 2024
    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 03:59:41 -0000 (UTC), rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    (Ross Ridge) wrote:

    Against the Storm was less mechanically impressive in it details,
    but amazing on how it innovated on basic city builder gameplay with
    an addictive rougelite gameplay loop. The way it gradually ramped
    up the difficulty was also amazing, forcing you to optimize how you
    do things more and more, but without throwing you into the deep end.
    I progressed a lot farther in the game than I had thought I could at
    the start, or would have if the game had forced me to adapt much quicker.

    I added Against the Storm to my wishlist. I love city builders and
    rougelites. I also like the graphics style in this one which is always
    a plus. The overwhelmingly positive reviews don't hurt either.

    These 'smaller' 'indie' titles are the only modern games I would ever
    buy. The big publishers aren't making games I want to play anymore.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Sep 4 07:54:30 2024
    On 9/4/2024 1:55 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 04/09/2024 00:08, Justisaur wrote:
    It's starting to feel like almost all the big games just have the same
    open world crap formula I'm not sure I'm currently happy with the way
    things are going.

    There's a good reason you feel like that, because they pretty much do.
    How much longer before CoD or Fifa becomes openworld!

    Are you saying Call of Duty _isn't_?!

    And can't you effectively have an open world "Fifa" by playing a soccer
    player in the Sims?

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Thu Sep 5 07:46:57 2024
    On 04/09/2024 15:54, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/4/2024 1:55 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 04/09/2024 00:08, Justisaur wrote:
    It's starting to feel like almost all the big games just have the
    same open world crap formula I'm not sure I'm currently happy with
    the way things are going.

    There's a good reason you feel like that, because they pretty much do.
    How much longer before CoD or Fifa becomes openworld!

    Are you saying Call of Duty _isn't_?!

    And can't you effectively have an open world "Fifa" by playing a soccer player in the Sims?


    I'm sure they'll work out a way to claim they are open world and
    introduce crafting into them!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Thu Sep 5 08:44:40 2024
    On 04/09/2024 13:58, Mike S. wrote:
    These 'smaller' 'indie' titles are the only modern games I would ever
    buy. The big publishers aren't making games I want to play anymore.

    There are some, not a lot mind you, I wouldn't mind playing but not
    until they come down to the bargain basement £5-£10 range as I just
    don't see them being worth £50+ when I can spend a lot less on a game I
    will enjoy at least as much. The games I now buy are all from small
    (let's call them indie) to medium sized devs such as Mimimi Games or
    Corteam.

    Having just browsed through my Steam library the last big budget game I
    bought at full price was FO:4 and even that was a disappointment. To be
    fair to it, it's not that it's a bad game as such instead that
    inevitably I compared it to FO:3/NV and it doesn't fair well
    particularity in the blandness of the locations you come across. The
    less said about handing you power armour straight of the bat the better!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Sep 5 09:11:12 2024
    On 04/09/2024 15:39, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:09:54 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
    spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On 31/08/2024 19:25, Mike S. wrote:
    On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:08:11 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    That era would get a better mark from me if it wasn't for the fact that
    it was period in my life when I transitioning to my 'hobbies' became
    centred around going out and generally drinking. It's rather hard to get >>> enthusiastic about playing games when your weekends consist of getting
    up in the afternoon with a head that feels like it's been used as
    football!

    Pity they never come out with "English Football Hooligan" then playing
    it in that condition would feel perfectly natural.


    <pedant mode on>
    [pushes glasses higher up on nose] Achsually...

    May I introduce you to the 2002 video game, "Hooligans: Storm Over
    Europe" https://www.mobygames.com/game/7235/hooligans/ where the goal
    is to lead a gang of rowdies and smash up as much as possible.

    </pedant mode off>

    Admittedly, the release of that game doesn't fall into the '16-bit
    era' (so I cheerfully deleted references to that bit :-)

    Is there an equivalent to Internet Rule 34, except about video games
    and not sex? Because it does seem to be getting to that point that
    there's a video game made about every topic these days.


    Only a boardgame but still!

    https://www.brexitgame.com/

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Sep 5 07:59:06 2024
    On 9/5/2024 1:11 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 04/09/2024 15:39, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:09:54 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>> spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On 31/08/2024 19:25, Mike S. wrote:
    On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:08:11 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    That era would get a better mark from me if it wasn't for the fact that >>>> it was period in my life when I transitioning to my 'hobbies' became
    centred around going out and generally drinking. It's rather hard to
    get
    enthusiastic about playing games when your weekends consist of getting >>>> up in the afternoon with a head that feels like it's been used as
    football!

    Pity they never come out with "English Football Hooligan" then playing
    it in that condition would feel perfectly natural.


    <pedant mode on>
    [pushes glasses higher up on nose] Achsually...

    May I introduce you to the 2002 video game, "Hooligans: Storm Over
    Europe" https://www.mobygames.com/game/7235/hooligans/ where the goal
    is to lead a gang of rowdies and smash up as much as possible.

    </pedant mode off>

    Admittedly, the release of that game doesn't fall into the '16-bit
    era' (so I cheerfully deleted references to that bit :-)

    Is there an equivalent to Internet Rule 34, except about video games
    and not sex? Because it does seem to be getting to that point that
    there's a video game made about every topic these days.


    Only a boardgame but still!

    https://www.brexitgame.com/

    Does the winner get to toss the game into the Channel?


    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to Mike_S@nowhere.com on Thu Sep 5 14:42:29 2024
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    These 'smaller' 'indie' titles are the only modern games I would ever
    buy. The big publishers aren't making games I want to play anymore.

    If big publishers make RPGs or strategy games then I'm probably still interested in playing them, though I'm in no hurry to. I still have a
    big backlog of these games I want to play, so I'm content with waiting
    for the blockbuster RPGs of the last few years to come down in price.
    (I'm not sure if there are any blockbuster strategy games these days,
    the Total War: Warhammer games maybe?)

    I also never have really seen the "AAA" tag as being a selling point.
    I remember when people would say "good enough graphics for an RPG" when describing these games, so I don't really expect AAA-level graphics in
    RPGs. Strategy games don't need it all, the visuals being some sort of abstract represenation that you're never going to find all that immersive
    no matter how "realistic" they look.

    I think it's great time for video games right now. Small indie titles
    can compete almost head to head with blockbuster AAA games. With Steam basically allowing any game anyone wants to make on their store, there
    aren't really gatekeepers any more. Sure, it's hard to get noticed with
    an average of 50 games coming out on Steam each day, and big publishers
    have easier time of this, but there's a lot of good indie games that
    manage to do well. Heck, there's a probably quite a few small and medium budget games released in the last couple of weeks that did better on
    Steam than Concord, a big budget AAA game published by Sony.

    --
    l/ // Ross Ridge -- The Great HTMU
    [oo][oo] rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    -()-/()/ http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068/
    db //

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Thu Sep 5 13:45:48 2024
    On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:42:29 -0000 (UTC), rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    (Ross Ridge) wrote:

    If big publishers make RPGs or strategy games then I'm probably still >interested in playing them, though I'm in no hurry to. I still have a
    big backlog of these games I want to play, so I'm content with waiting
    for the blockbuster RPGs of the last few years to come down in price.
    (I'm not sure if there are any blockbuster strategy games these days,
    the Total War: Warhammer games maybe?)

    The only AAA strategy game series I can think of that is still going
    is Civilization and the next one is coming out February 2025.

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to Mike_S@nowhere.com on Thu Sep 5 19:39:42 2024
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    The only AAA strategy game series I can think of that is still going
    is Civilization and the next one is coming out February 2025.

    Oh, yah, I knew I was missing something. Not really looking forward
    to it. The AI in Civilization VI was just too dumb, and I don't think
    they have any interest in improving it.

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    [oo][oo] rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    -()-/()/ http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068/
    db //

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Thu Sep 5 17:55:15 2024
    On 9/5/2024 12:39 PM, Ross Ridge wrote:
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    The only AAA strategy game series I can think of that is still going
    is Civilization and the next one is coming out February 2025.

    Oh, yah, I knew I was missing something. Not really looking forward
    to it. The AI in Civilization VI was just too dumb, and I don't think
    they have any interest in improving it.

    I gave up on the Civilization when III went way too politically correct
    and had massive armies that had just conquered half an enemy empire flip
    and join the enemy empire because of "culture". Fornicate that.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 6 05:49:28 2024
    On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:08:11 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    This month it's a fun one: Video games have been around for a long
    time, and have gone through various phases. Of them all, which was the
    era in which you had the most fun playing video games? Not which you
    feel was necessarily the BEST era with the best games, but the one you
    had the most fun with. (And feel free to bitch about how I arbitrarily >divided up gaming history too! ;-)

    I love all my children equally, Spalls.

    But the 80s will always have a glint of nostalgia for me.

    All time favorite 80s arcade games:
    o Mappy
    o Time Pilot
    o Galaxian (actually 1979 iirc)
    o Galaga
    o Gyruss
    o Venture

    All time favorite 80s computer games:
    o Anything Infocom
    o Anything Ultima
    o Gold Box games
    o Beach Head
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/19932/beach-head/
    o M.U.L.E.
    o Seven Cities of Gold
    o Archon
    o Elite
    o Rescue on Fractalus
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/11726/rescue-on-fractalus/
    o The Dreadnaught Factor https://www.mobygames.com/game/9642/the-dreadnaught-factor/
    o Raid on Bungeling Bay https://www.mobygames.com/game/11506/raid-on-bungeling-bay/

    But seriously, Baldur's Gate 3 anyone? I just got done playing Civ VI
    with all the DLC, wow. And then there's "The Number" -- the greatest of
    all games. In the past, I've bought stuff just to watch it run. In fact,
    I literally watched Madden play itself on my Gamecube.

    I have had fun galore. I wouldn't be doing this hobby if I wasn't having
    fun.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Sep 12 12:49:32 2024
    On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 17:32:58 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    ** I learned the word analgesic from an Infocom's games... can you
    guess which one?

    That would be HHGTTG.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 13 15:32:57 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    ** I learned the word analgesic from an Infocom's games... can you
    guess which one?

    I actually know which one since I learned it from the same game. A
    buffered analgesic I believe it was you needed to take to stop your
    bedroom from spinning. I learned it because I watched someone play
    Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy way back when. Not sure when or on
    what though, I have a vague memory of a green monochrome monitor.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 13 11:49:33 2024
    On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:08:21 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 12:49:32 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 17:32:58 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    ** I learned the word analgesic from an Infocom's games... can you
    guess which one?

    That would be HHGTTG.

    Ding-ding-ding! Get this man a satchel, a towel, a floor grate and
    some mail!

    Oh that fucking babel fish puzzle. The InvisiClues actually gets to the
    point where it says, "Congratulations! You've read the longest hint in InvisiClues history." or something to that effect.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Fri Sep 13 11:53:22 2024
    On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 11:49:33 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Zaghadka wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:08:21 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 12:49:32 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 17:32:58 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >>>Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    ** I learned the word analgesic from an Infocom's games... can you >>>>guess which one?

    That would be HHGTTG.

    Ding-ding-ding! Get this man a satchel, a towel, a floor grate and
    some mail!

    Oh that fucking babel fish puzzle. The InvisiClues actually gets to the
    point where it says, "Congratulations! You've read the longest hint in >InvisiClues history." or something to that effect.

    Yeah, here's the transcript:

    (36 hints left) > This puzzle has more clues than a Hitchhiker's Guide Mark IV has options.
    (35 hints left) > Have you tried pressing the dispenser button?
    (34 hints left) > You need to block the small hole.
    (33 hints left) > Let's hope you aren't stuck here, because it only gets harder.
    (32 hints left) > It has something to do with the hook above the hole.
    (31 hints left) > You need to hang something on the hook.
    (30 hints left) > Examine the gown.
    (29 hints left) > Notice the loop? Hang the gown on the hook, then press the button again.
    (28 hints left) > Well, you've made a little progress. Don't give up now.
    (27 hints left) > You'll have to block the drain.
    (26 hints left) > There's only one thing large enough to completely cover the drain.
    (25 hints left) > Cover the drain with the towel, then push the button again. >(24 hints left) > Oh, well. Forging ahead, you'll have to block the tiny robot panel.
    (23 hints left) > Standing or lying in front of the panel won't work.
    (22 hints left) > You'll have to put some object in front of the panel.
    (21 hints left) > If it isn't bulky enough, the cleaning robot dashes around it.
    (20 hints left) > Examine all the objects around.
    (19 hints left) > The satchel is bulky. Put it in front of the panel, then push the button again.
    (18 hints left) > At this point, brave men have been known to break down and cry.
    (17 hints left) > Read, very carefully, the paragraph when Ford goes to sleep. >(16 hints left) > Note that when you placed the satchel in front of the panel the response was "The satchel is now lying on its side in front of the panel."
    (15 hints left) > The point of the two previous items is that you can put an object on top of the satchel.
    (14 hints left) > Put something on the satchel, then push the dispenser button again.
    (13 hints left) > Notice that the upper-half-of-the-room cleaning robot just manages to catch the second item.
    (12 hints left) > Perhaps if there were several items on the satchel, they would all fly the air and confuse the flying robot.
    (11 hints left) > Unfortunately, there's only room for one object on the satchel.
    (10 hints left) > Do you have an object, or have you seen an object, that when flung into the air might act as many items?
    (9 hints left) > Remember that when the upper-half-of-the-room cleaning robot grabbed the babel fish, before you put an object on the satchel, the text said that the fish was "the only flying junk" that the robot found.
    (8 hints left) > Put the pile of junk mail on the satchel, then press the dispenser button again.
    (7 hints left) > Voila!
    (6 hints left) > This space intentionally left blank.
    (5 hints left) > Incidentally, did you know that this is the longest question ever to appear in an InvisiClues hint booklet?
    (4 hints left) > You see, the Kwimbucki of Zug Seven are avid interactive fiction fans, but they have one rather eccentric peculiarity.
    (3 hints left) > They will not buy any work of interactive fiction unless its hint booklet has at least one question with over 35 items.
    (2 hints left) > This is the 35th hint.
    (1 hint left) > JJ. Our marketing department will be happy to know that Zug Seven sales have just skyrocketed.

    [No more hints]

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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