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Zag wrote:
And then there's Larian. There's CDPR. There are single-A companies that
try. We need to be forgiving of them and support them. I bought Cyberpunk
2077 at a discount to keep them honest.
It's not dead yet. It's just very badly burned.
I agree although even those games you mentioned aren't really doing
anything that different but instead doing a type of formula know to work
very well, although in Cyberpunk's case that took a couple of years
until after it had been released.
I look at the price of higher performance GPU's now and just think, you
have got to be kidding me.
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:42:53 +0000, JAB wrote:
I look at the price of higher performance GPU's now and just think, you
have got to be kidding me.
My prime motivator for upgrading my system (including GPU) was to
run a text-to-graphics AI program, Fooocus (which uses pyTorch).
Of course, it's very nice for games, too...but I'm slightly miffed about
the behavior of my new OLED monitor, since it nags me about "pixel
cleaning" every 8 hours or so. :(
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:35:03 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, vallor wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:42:53 +0000, JAB wrote:
I look at the price of higher performance GPU's now and just think,
you have got to be kidding me.
My prime motivator for upgrading my system (including GPU) was to run a >>text-to-graphics AI program, Fooocus (which uses pyTorch).
Of course, it's very nice for games, too...but I'm slightly miffed about >>the behavior of my new OLED monitor, since it nags me about "pixel >>cleaning" every 8 hours or so. :(
The *hell* is "pixel cleaning?" Lol
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:20:20 -0500, Zaghadka wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:35:03 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, vallor wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:42:53 +0000, JAB wrote:
I look at the price of higher performance GPU's now and just think,
you have got to be kidding me.
My prime motivator for upgrading my system (including GPU) was to run a >>>text-to-graphics AI program, Fooocus (which uses pyTorch).
Of course, it's very nice for games, too...but I'm slightly miffed
about the behavior of my new OLED monitor, since it nags me about
"pixel cleaning" every 8 hours or so. :(
The *hell* is "pixel cleaning?" Lol
Monitor function where the screen goes black, then the monitor goes
through the pixels and removes residual charge. Prevents screen
burn-in. Takes about 5.5 minutes.
I had no idea the monitor would put me through this, or I'd probably
have bought something that didn't need it. But hey, other than that:
great monitor. :)
On 21/03/2025 22:09, Zaghadka wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:03:56 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
The big-name publishers looked at this calculation and decided the
best way to do things, then, is to go all-in on live-service,
MTX-riddled, advert- and sponsorship-heavy games in a hope that they
can recoup some of the expenses. And --for the time being-- that
strategy is working, but it comes at a cost.
Yeah. The indies and smaller shops will step in. We're not back to games
in ziplock baggies, but AAA games are not where it's at for me.
I prefer small dev-team options and will pay them handsomely. So long as
Unity doesn't shit the bed, this will continue to be available.
My money and time also now goes to the smaller studios as I just find
the games more interesting and I don't feel and they are trying to
squeeze every last penny out of me.
And then there's Larian. There's CDPR. There are single-A companies that
try. We need to be forgiving of them and support them. I bought Cyberpunk
2077 at a discount to keep them honest.
It's not dead yet. It's just very badly burned.
I agree although even those games you mentioned aren't really doing
anything that different but instead doing a type of formula know to work
very well, although in Cyberpunk's case that took a couple of years
until after it had been released.
I don't care if the textures aren't 4k. I just have to buy a much more
expensive graphics card and monitor then.
I got off the graphics bandwagon many years ago as I realised that
graphics were no longer that important to me and the type of games I was played didn't really rely on them. I can appreciate really high fidelity graphics but that quickly wears off.
I look at the price of higher performance GPU's now and just think, you
have got to be kidding me.
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:42:53 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB wrote:
Zag wrote:
And then there's Larian. There's CDPR. There are single-A companies that >>> try. We need to be forgiving of them and support them. I bought Cyberpunk >>> 2077 at a discount to keep them honest.
It's not dead yet. It's just very badly burned.
I agree although even those games you mentioned aren't really doing
anything that different but instead doing a type of formula know to work
very well, although in Cyberpunk's case that took a couple of years
until after it had been released.
(I'm sorry, my talent for brevity is a mere figment of my imagination)
Oh that much is true. It's still single-A. They still have to be somewhat risk averse. This stuff costs real money - and real time without revenue
- and you can't put them out like a bunny makes children just to watch
75% of them die on the vine. That's for indie moon shots, not this sort
of effort.
But we haven't had a 5e implementation outside BG3. Larian worked their
butts off. They're still working; they're getting ready to introduce new
2014 subclasses. And it's interesting content too, not horse armor. And I think it won't be DLC. Win.
Hasbro even started modeling their "monetization" schemes off of the
success of BG3. That's how good it was. The 50th anniversary 2024 Monster Manual cover looks like box art for BG3.
Sure, it's top-down isometric turn-based CRPG and similar to the
Divinity:OS series. It's nothing we haven't seen before. But the
storytelling and setting are unique in gaming rn. The 5e implementation
is impeccable. This is what single-A can do. Single-A shops can stick a
few toes in, or even go waist deep, in the turbulent waters of risk.
Same goes for Cyberpunk 2077. When was the last time you saw a title set
in Night City? Ruiner perhaps? They could have done Witcher 4, but they
did this instead. A bit more than a toe in the turbulent waters of risk.
This time it didn't fully pay off, so they put in *more* work and
recovered, because they had to. A larger shop would have just written it
off as a loss and a data point for the accountants proving that risk
isn't worth it. Single-A goes under if they don't make good.
Go back a little further, and I greatly enjoyed Wasteland 2.
Post-apocalyptic turn-based RPG? Yes please. I bought Wasteland 3. It's
in my backlog. Because of that, and others, I might get Wasteland 4.
IMHO, the only way for niche games to get made is for me to put my money where my mouth is. It's more useful to simply _not buy EA_, for instance, than it is to slag them off.*
They don't do what I want. So what? They have a license to print money,
but it isn't mine. They are making bank. I don't begrudge them that. I support what I like and ignore what I don't. It's no use lamenting that
the mass-market, AAA audience will eat what I think is sh!t and like it.
So Activision/Bliz and EA can suck eggs. Ubi can lie dead in a ditch for
all I care. I just don't buy from any of them. I have lots of friends who
do, but it isn't a zero sum game. I have money too.
I just have to prove there's money in what *I* want. I have to be a
market for these developers.
You are too. I can tell.
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 03:57:37 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:20:20 -0500, Zaghadka wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:35:03 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, vallor wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:42:53 +0000, JAB wrote:
I look at the price of higher performance GPU's now and just think,
you have got to be kidding me.
My prime motivator for upgrading my system (including GPU) was to run a >>>>text-to-graphics AI program, Fooocus (which uses pyTorch).
Of course, it's very nice for games, too...but I'm slightly miffed >>>>about the behavior of my new OLED monitor, since it nags me about >>>>"pixel cleaning" every 8 hours or so. :(
The *hell* is "pixel cleaning?" Lol
Monitor function where the screen goes black, then the monitor goes
through the pixels and removes residual charge. Prevents screen
burn-in. Takes about 5.5 minutes.
I had no idea the monitor would put me through this, or I'd probably
have bought something that didn't need it. But hey, other than that:
great monitor. :)
In case you were curious:
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/LCD%20Monitors/PG42UQ/ASUS_PG42UQ_English.pdf?model=PG42UQ
Page 30 of the PDF, labelled 3-9 in the documentation.
Saying that I also like to bitch about big
publishers as who doesn't like a rant online!
I ended up getting an ASUS PG27AQN, which has exceeded all my
expectations, even in the fastest / twitch games. It's literally the
first time in decades I can say this product is everything I want a
monitor to be.
I think the GPU price is more because of the AI bubble rn..
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 09:53:23 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB wrote:
Saying that I also like to bitch about big
publishers as who doesn't like a rant online!
Honestly, when it's pointless pissing and screaming at the wind, me. ;^)
We sound like "get off my lawn!" old men. I'd rather be graceful old gentlemen who like to ogle the young women.
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 04:09:36 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 03:57:37 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:20:20 -0500, Zaghadka wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:35:03 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, vallor wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:42:53 +0000, JAB wrote:
I look at the price of higher performance GPU's now and just think, >>>>>> you have got to be kidding me.
My prime motivator for upgrading my system (including GPU) was to run a >>>>>text-to-graphics AI program, Fooocus (which uses pyTorch).
Of course, it's very nice for games, too...but I'm slightly miffed >>>>>about the behavior of my new OLED monitor, since it nags me about >>>>>"pixel cleaning" every 8 hours or so. :(
The *hell* is "pixel cleaning?" Lol
Monitor function where the screen goes black, then the monitor goes
through the pixels and removes residual charge. Prevents screen
burn-in. Takes about 5.5 minutes.
I had no idea the monitor would put me through this, or I'd probably
have bought something that didn't need it. But hey, other than that:
great monitor. :)
In case you were curious:
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/LCD%20Monitors/PG42UQ/ASUS_PG42UQ_English.pdf?model=PG42UQ
Page 30 of the PDF, labelled 3-9 in the documentation.
What are your thoughts on text clarity of the PG42UQ?
I considered going OLED, but it seems to me there is a compromise in sharpness of text on all OLED monitors that I wasn't okay with, since productivity takes priority over gaming for me, so I wanted the text
clarity of IPS.
I ended up getting an ASUS PG27AQN, which has exceeded all my
expectations, even in the fastest / twitch games. It's literally the
first time in decades I can say this product is everything I want a
monitor to be.
Actually it may be the first time I've ever been able to say that,
since back in the day CRTs were great for games but text sharpness was
never that great.
On 3/23/2025 11:24 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 09:53:23 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JABNo reason you can't be both. :)
wrote:
Saying that I also like to bitch about big
publishers as who doesn't like a rant online!
Honestly, when it's pointless pissing and screaming at the wind, me. ;^)
We sound like "get off my lawn!" old men. I'd rather be graceful old
gentlemen who like to ogle the young women.
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:58:38 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 3/23/2025 11:24 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 09:53:23 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB >>> wrote:No reason you can't be both. :)
Saying that I also like to bitch about big
publishers as who doesn't like a rant online!
Honestly, when it's pointless pissing and screaming at the wind, me. ;^) >>>
We sound like "get off my lawn!" old men. I'd rather be graceful old
gentlemen who like to ogle the young women.
A graceful gentleman who shouts at those scallawag kids? Or a split personality?
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 06:10:04 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
I think the GPU price is more because of the AI bubble rn..
Crypto followed by AI. Nvidia fell into Scrooge McDuck swimming gold.
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 18:30 this Sunday (GMT):
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 06:10:04 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
I think the GPU price is more because of the AI bubble rn..
Crypto followed by AI. Nvidia fell into Scrooge McDuck swimming gold.
Yeah, wasnt NVIDIA the biggest stock for a bit?
The big-name publishers looked at this calculation and decided the
best way to do things, then, is to go all-in on live-service,
MTX-riddled, advert- and sponsorship-heavy games in a hope that they
can recoup some of the expenses. And --for the time being-- that
strategy is working, but it comes at a cost.
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:03:56 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
The big-name publishers looked at this calculation and decided the
best way to do things, then, is to go all-in on live-service,
MTX-riddled, advert- and sponsorship-heavy games in a hope that they
can recoup some of the expenses. And --for the time being-- that
strategy is working, but it comes at a cost.
Yeah. The indies and smaller shops will step in. We're not back to games
in ziplock baggies, but AAA games are not where it's at for me.
I prefer small dev-team options and will pay them handsomely. So long as Unity doesn't shit the bed, this will continue to be available.
And then there's Larian. There's CDPR. There are single-A companies that
try. We need to be forgiving of them and support them. I bought Cyberpunk 2077 at a discount to keep them honest.
It's not dead yet. It's just very badly burned.
I don't care if the textures aren't 4k. I just have to buy a much more expensive graphics card and monitor then.
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 22:40:06 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 18:30 this Sunday (GMT):
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 06:10:04 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
I think the GPU price is more because of the AI bubble rn..
Crypto followed by AI. Nvidia fell into Scrooge McDuck swimming gold.
Yeah, wasnt NVIDIA the biggest stock for a bit?
Still is doing quite well, in fact. Until the bubble bursts.
I wish I had gotten in at the ground floor.
It might _still_ be beneficial to get in, but the dramatic upside that existed before crypto found its stride is, IMO, done. I don't have the "intestinal fortitude" to time the bubble burst window and get out.
I think Nvidia's fortunes will end in an equally dramatic, and perhaps sudden, downside. It's not a "buy" for me because its market valuation is nearly insane, IMO.*
On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 15:50:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 15:11 this Thursday (GMT):
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 22:40:06 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 18:30 this Sunday (GMT):
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 06:10:04 -0000 (UTC), inYeah, wasnt NVIDIA the biggest stock for a bit?
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
I think the GPU price is more because of the AI bubble rn..
Crypto followed by AI. Nvidia fell into Scrooge McDuck swimming gold. >>>>
Still is doing quite well, in fact. Until the bubble bursts.
I wish I had gotten in at the ground floor.
It might _still_ be beneficial to get in, but the dramatic upside that
existed before crypto found its stride is, IMO, done. I don't have the
"intestinal fortitude" to time the bubble burst window and get out.
I think Nvidia's fortunes will end in an equally dramatic, and perhaps
sudden, downside. It's not a "buy" for me because its market valuation is >>> nearly insane, IMO.*
And I don't use NVIDIA because of the Linux stuff :)
I've never understood Nvidia's reluctance to open-source their
drivers. Especially since increasingly their core users --not gamers,
but crypto & AI bros-- aren't Windows based. Even the much-ballyhoo'd
"we've open sourced a few drivers" from a few years ago was largely
smoke and mirrors. Is so much of Nvidia's functionality built into
their drivers that they dare not release the code?
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 19:10:07 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:28 this Saturday (GMT):
On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 15:50:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 >>><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 15:11 this Thursday (GMT):
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 22:40:06 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 18:30 this Sunday (GMT):
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 06:10:04 -0000 (UTC), inYeah, wasnt NVIDIA the biggest stock for a bit?
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
I think the GPU price is more because of the AI bubble rn..
Crypto followed by AI. Nvidia fell into Scrooge McDuck swimming gold. >>>>>>
Still is doing quite well, in fact. Until the bubble bursts.
I wish I had gotten in at the ground floor.
It might _still_ be beneficial to get in, but the dramatic upside that >>>>> existed before crypto found its stride is, IMO, done. I don't have the >>>>> "intestinal fortitude" to time the bubble burst window and get out.
I think Nvidia's fortunes will end in an equally dramatic, and perhaps >>>>> sudden, downside. It's not a "buy" for me because its market valuation is >>>>> nearly insane, IMO.*
And I don't use NVIDIA because of the Linux stuff :)
I've never understood Nvidia's reluctance to open-source their
drivers. Especially since increasingly their core users --not gamers,
but crypto & AI bros-- aren't Windows based. Even the much-ballyhoo'd
"we've open sourced a few drivers" from a few years ago was largely
smoke and mirrors. Is so much of Nvidia's functionality built into
their drivers that they dare not release the code?
Who knows. My bet is they're either trying to hold onto "security
through obfuscation" or are being forced to by a contract..
The most /convincing/ reason I've heard is that, with open-source
drivers, users would be able to turn consumer-level cards into workstation-level cards, accessing features normally restricted by
software. Why buy a $3000 workstation card when a $500 card and some
hacked drivers get you the same capabilities?
Whether this is true or not, I've not the foggiest. But it seems more
likely than problems with patents or trade-secrets (since you could
re-write your drivers to avoid that). It's not like AMD and Intel
haven't faced similar problems.
I wonder if perhaps Nvidia is like some of those Japanese software
companies (Konami, Sega, Capcom, etc.) who were so scarred by past
events that even the idea of opening up is unthinkable. Capcom etc.
were fiercely embattled by pirates and hackers ripping off their
arcade boards and ROMs in the '80s, and I think a lot of this is why
they've such a negative view of user-mods today. Similarly, if there
ever was any truth to "drivers+consumer cards=workstation capable"
rumor, I can imagine Nvidia being quite loathe to even think of going
down a similar route.
But as far as I can tell, Nvidia has never given a clear explanation
as to why they won't open-source their drivers, beyond the usual
corp-speak (e.g., "it's not in our interests today").