• Re: Starship Trooper remake?

    From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Mar 8 14:03:47 2025
    On 3/8/2025 9:23 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Mar 2025 03:04:29 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 07:46:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    The Total Recall remake was bad IMO.

    IIRC, reviews at the time agree with you.

    Ditto. I'd rather rewatch the original!

    Heh. I went to the theatre to see that one (the original, not the
    remake).

    The first movie was fun, but it really wasn't very good either. It was
    an incredibly /stupid/ movie, requiring you to not only disconnect
    your brain but to also stupefy most of your internal neurons. But it
    had a few fun lines ("Getcha ass to Maahs") and some memorable scenes.
    Beyond that, though, it was complete schlock and of all Verhoeven's
    movies, it baffles me the most why it got a remake. It lacked any
    cogent message or originality. It's like remaking Stallone's "Cobra"
    or Norris's "Invasion USA"; it's unnecessary and unwanted.

    But Ryan Reynolds needed to make a mortgage payment!

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 3 01:05:14 2025
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    https://www.darkhorizons.com/sony-considers-starship-troopers-remake/

    Oh boy.
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Mar 10 08:05:13 2025
    On 08/03/2025 17:23, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Mar 2025 03:04:29 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 07:46:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    The Total Recall remake was bad IMO.

    IIRC, reviews at the time agree with you.

    Ditto. I'd rather rewatch the original!

    Heh. I went to the theatre to see that one (the original, not the
    remake).

    The first movie was fun, but it really wasn't very good either. It was
    an incredibly /stupid/ movie, requiring you to not only disconnect
    your brain but to also stupefy most of your internal neurons. But it
    had a few fun lines ("Getcha ass to Maahs") and some memorable scenes.
    Beyond that, though, it was complete schlock and of all Verhoeven's
    movies, it baffles me the most why it got a remake. It lacked any
    cogent message or originality. It's like remaking Stallone's "Cobra"
    or Norris's "Invasion USA"; it's unnecessary and unwanted.


    I think it's a good movie because it's, well as you say fun. It's very
    much a product of its time with over the top violence, corny one liners
    that would make James Bond wince and doesn't take itself very seriously.
    Oh and Sharon Stone sweaty in a leotard, you can't ask for more than that.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Mar 4 08:58:53 2025
    On 03/03/2025 16:08, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    I'm sure it will go just as well as the "Robocop" and "Total Recall"
    remakes.

    That's two films that really didn't need to be remade as although some
    of the effects are a bit dated the films themselves are still very good
    so what does a remake actually achieve.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Mar 6 10:12:09 2025
    On 04/03/2025 15:30, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 08:58:53 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 03/03/2025 16:08, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    I'm sure it will go just as well as the "Robocop" and "Total Recall"
    remakes.

    That's two films that really didn't need to be remade as although some
    of the effects are a bit dated the films themselves are still very good
    so what does a remake actually achieve.

    Money, dear friend; lots and lots of money. Maybe not at the box
    office, but Hollywood Accounting ensures that the studios make a
    profit even when the movie itself is a total flop.

    And in the case of both these movies, they made cash at box office
    too. Robocop 2014 made $250 million on a $100 million budget, and
    Total Recall 2012 made $210 million on a $125 budget. They weren't blockbuster successes, but the producers cashed out quite comfortably. Sequels and remakes are almost certain successes, every time.
    "Starship Trooper" doesn't need a sequel either, but that won't stop
    millions of people from going to see it anyway. What else are they
    going to do; go see something original?


    This is more from a watcher's point of view so why pay more than it
    would cost to buy an actual copy of the original film that is better
    than the remake.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Mar 6 06:58:09 2025
    On 3/6/2025 2:12 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 04/03/2025 15:30, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 08:58:53 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 03/03/2025 16:08, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    I'm sure it will go just as well as the "Robocop" and "Total Recall"
    remakes.

    That's two films that really didn't need to be remade as although some
    of the effects are a bit dated the films themselves are still very good
    so what does a remake actually achieve.

    Money, dear friend; lots and lots of money. Maybe not at the box
    office, but Hollywood Accounting ensures that the studios make a
    profit even when the movie itself is a total flop.

    And in the case of both these movies, they made cash at box office
    too. Robocop 2014 made $250 million on a $100 million budget, and
    Total Recall 2012 made $210 million on a $125 budget. They weren't
    blockbuster successes, but the producers cashed out quite comfortably.
    Sequels and remakes are almost certain successes, every time.
    "Starship Trooper" doesn't need a sequel either, but that won't stop
    millions of people from going to see it anyway. What else are they
    going to do; go see something original?


    This is more from a watcher's point of view so why pay more than it
    would cost to buy an actual copy of the original film that is better
    than the remake.

    Because "I can do it BETTER!" and "Kids don't watch old movies!"

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Thu Mar 6 21:00:15 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:58 this Thursday (GMT):
    On 3/6/2025 2:12 AM, JAB wrote:
    [snip]
    This is more from a watcher's point of view so why pay more than it
    would cost to buy an actual copy of the original film that is better
    than the remake.

    Because "I can do it BETTER!" and "Kids don't watch old movies!"


    Don't forget "We can make money off this!"
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 17:53:50 2025
    On 3/6/2025 1:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:58 this Thursday (GMT):
    On 3/6/2025 2:12 AM, JAB wrote:
    [snip]
    This is more from a watcher's point of view so why pay more than it
    would cost to buy an actual copy of the original film that is better
    than the remake.

    Because "I can do it BETTER!" and "Kids don't watch old movies!"


    Don't forget "We can make money off this!"

    Well THAT'S a given.

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Mar 7 11:25:49 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    On Mon, 03 Mar 2025 01:05:14 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    https://www.darkhorizons.com/sony-considers-starship-troopers-remake/


    I'm sure it will go just as well as the "Robocop" and "Total Recall"
    remakes.

    I kinda vaguely think the Total Recall remake was fine? Better than the senseless older version with Arnold Schwarzenegger in it. But it's been
    a while. The Robocop remake I did (kinda) watch more recently, but it
    was bad so it's more like I skimmed it. Can't really remember much.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi on Fri Mar 7 09:33:25 2025
    On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 11:25:49 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

    I kinda vaguely think the Total Recall remake was fine? Better than the >senseless older version with Arnold Schwarzenegger in it. But it's been
    a while. The Robocop remake I did (kinda) watch more recently, but it
    was bad so it's more like I skimmed it. Can't really remember much.

    I was fine with both Total Recalls but the Robocop remake was
    terrible.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Fri Mar 7 07:46:06 2025
    On 3/7/2025 6:33 AM, Mike S. wrote:
    On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 11:25:49 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

    I kinda vaguely think the Total Recall remake was fine? Better than the
    senseless older version with Arnold Schwarzenegger in it. But it's been
    a while. The Robocop remake I did (kinda) watch more recently, but it
    was bad so it's more like I skimmed it. Can't really remember much.

    I was fine with both Total Recalls but the Robocop remake was
    terrible.

    The Total Recall remake was bad IMO.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Fri Mar 7 11:20:51 2025
    On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 07:46:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    The Total Recall remake was bad IMO.

    IIRC, reviews at the time agree with you.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sat Mar 8 03:04:29 2025
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 07:46:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    The Total Recall remake was bad IMO.

    IIRC, reviews at the time agree with you.

    Ditto. I'd rather rewatch the original!
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