• Re: Hot New Games Aren't

    From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Mon Dec 23 14:10:12 2024
    On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 13:51:34 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Where do you stand? How many of the games that you played this year
    were released in 2024, and how did that compare in playtime to any
    older games you played?

    My most played games on Steam are from 2000-2010 or so. But I am also
    playing a bunch of freebies and I don't really have any idea when they
    came out. I doubt any of them came out in 2024.

    I never played a 2024 game in 2024 I don't think. I will likely not
    play a 2025 game in 2025. I don't buy games from the big studios
    anymore. They don't make games that I like. I do buy indie titles, but
    even then, I buy them when they are on sale. And then they sit in my
    library until I get around to playing them.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Mon Dec 23 15:30:04 2024
    On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 15:04:11 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    I played an unusual amount of new games this year. Well, unusual for
    recent years; back in the day it felt like I was getting and playing a
    brand new game every week. But for a good while, until 2024, I was
    focussing more on older titles.

    But this year I spent a good amount of time (and money!) on games
    released in 2024; 7 games to be exact (or 9 if you include the
    truck-sim expansion DLC), all of which I played to completion. That
    number goes higher if you include games "less than a year old when I
    bought and played them" (such as the "System Shock Remaster", which
    released in May 2023 but I played in January 2024). If you include all
    of those, my total of "brand new" games goes up to almost a quarter of
    _all_ the games I played in 2024.

    The System Shock remaster is on sale right now. It is in my wishlist
    and I am thinking of getting it because I am in the mood to actually
    play it. I would mix it in with all the giveaway games I got from you,
    but that *still* will be sometime in 2025 for a game that came out in
    2023!

    That is as close as I could potentially come to playing a game in its
    release year. I don't count freebies in this, I mean games I actually purchased.

    Of course, all this discounts all the games I fired up, puttered
    around with for twenty or fifty minutes, then put away again. I do
    that with a lot of my older DOS and Playstation games and never list
    them in my monthly recounts since I don't consider those games really >"played". And then there's stuff like Doom; over the course of 2024, I >probably put in ten or twenty hours of play with that game, but it was
    thirty minutes here and an hour there over the course of a year. That
    happens with older games like "Civilization 1" or "Master of Orion"
    too. It's a lot of "I can't think of what else to play, so I'll just
    fire this old classic up to while away some time until I can think of >something better". It adds up, but doesn't get 'counted'.

    I do this as well. When I am in between games, I may fire up Master of
    Orion or Master of Magic, or play a random map in Heroes of Might &
    Magic 3 until I decide what to play 'for real' so to speak.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 10:26:46 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:


    Everybody loves new games. That's a truism of the industry; it's
    something they depend on and market heavily. Don't miss out, they tell
    is; buy the game now before everybody jumps ship to the next big
    thing.

    Except... apparently that truism isn't quite as true anymore. Steam's
    Year in Review shows that only 15% of the total time spent on games
    was spent on games released in 2024. More than a third of their time
    was spent on games eight or more years old.

    The thing is, new game SALES haven't really decreased. But people are >spending more time playing their older titles. And games that -just a >generation ago- would have been declared obsolete and ancient still
    have quite a draw to them.

    There are all sorts of reasons for this and, honestly, I think that
    the sheer number of bots grinding games like TeamFortress and
    CounterStrike for gambling tokens probably skews the numbers quite a
    bit. But the popularity of SteamDeck, the huge influx of free or >highly-discounted older games, and the malicious monetization of
    modern titles probably are all influential too.

    I certainly have no gripe with this; I've been championing older games
    for years! Go older games; strut your stuff! These new-fangled
    releases ain't got nothin' on you!

    Where do you stand? How many of the games that you played this year
    were released in 2024, and how did that compare in playtime to any
    older games you played?

    The Newest games I purchased this year:
    System Shock Remaster (about 2/3rds of the way through I stopped, will
    pick up again at some point)

    Mechwarrior5 Mercs (did I think about 4 missions, then I no longer had a functional mech, since it's all swarms of enemy attacks vs single you)

    CyberPunk2077 (Have not even opened it)

    Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered (have not played yet, gonna have to get in
    the mood for those controls)



    Games I actually played:
    Black Desert Online
    Star Trek Online
    Star Wars: The Old Republic
    City of Heroes
    Grim Dawn
    Borderlands 2+3

    Xocyll

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Tue Dec 24 10:40:06 2024
    On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 10:18:31 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    My first read-through of that comment was that you were firing up
    "Master of Orion 3" as your go-to game, and my opinion of you dropped >drastically. Then I read more closely and I very much approve of your
    choices ;-)

    I never bothered with the third game due to the poor reviews when it
    released. I always have the original MOO installed, and yes, that is
    the one I was referring to.

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 25 13:25:18 2024
    Games actually released this year, probably only two:
    Indika
    Indiana Jones
    I can't recall what led to buying Indika, some urge to try a new indie
    game? Indiana Jones has been a major surprise though; I'd never have
    purchased it at the retail price, but being available via gamepass and the early lauds eased any entry concerns, and I've enjoyed it quite a bit.

    Games I've paid full retail for were not in a playable state on launch (cyberpunk & stalker2) but both appear to have made major strides (cyberpunk
    is quite mature now), and another title I wanted to buy but not at full
    retail, Alan Wake 2, is finally discounted and I've bought it: This trend
    will continue no doubt: Balking at high release price, or balking at rushed
    & unfinished state of titles, and waiting for ~1yr before buying.

    My oldest title this year, the 15yr old console title Enslaved: Journey to
    the West, I enjoyed immensely

    rms

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Dec 27 13:13:11 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    But this year I spent a good amount of time (and money!) on games
    released in 2024; 7 games to be exact (or 9 if you include the
    truck-sim expansion DLC), all of which I played to completion. That
    number goes higher if you include games "less than a year old when I
    bought and played them" (such as the "System Shock Remaster", which
    released in May 2023 but I played in January 2024). If you include all
    of those, my total of "brand new" games goes up to almost a quarter of
    _all_ the games I played in 2024.

    Damn, I thought the "System Shock Remaster" was a 2024 game. So that
    would've been at least one game released this year I've played. Oh well,
    it feels like they kinda did it to themselves. As I recall, they
    announced a big patch in August of 2023 and then didn't release it until
    2024. I had started the game, then waited for that patch and when it
    didn't come out I just started playing in late 2023 or early 2024.

    What's the stance on big mods though? Thinking of Fallout: London here,
    it definitely came out this year but Fallout 4 is almost a decade old
    now.

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