• Re: 2024 c.s.i.p.g.action Holiday Give-Away Day #25 : Unboxing XII

    From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Dec 28 20:49:15 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 18:36:22 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:




    I also no C&C giveaways too! :P

    EA has, in general, been very Smaugian with their games; very few of
    their titles are ever offered for free. It will happen occasionally
    -Epic got us "Mass Effect" and "Dead Space" once- but it's far less
    common that Electronic Arts titles make the circuit as free games than
    other publishers. Plus, EA is famous for burying its old intellectual properties.

    All that and "Command & Conquer" is pretty much a dead franchise,
    remembered only by aging PC gamers*, so it's not as if the free offer
    would get that many takers anyway.

    TL;DR: C&C freebies? Don't hold your breath

    * excluding compilations and remasters, the last new Command & Conquer
    game came out in 2003!

    I still need to try that remaster! I got The First Decade bundle set from Da Lion (remember him from the old C&C days?).
    --
    "Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our 'God is a consuming fire.'" --Hebrews 12:28-29. Crazy humans outside on Fri.
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Dec 29 18:26:30 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:49:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I still need to try that remaster! I got The First Decade bundle set from Da >Lion (remember him from the old C&C days?).

    I have 'em both! My most intense memory of the First Decade
    compilation was how cheaply put together it was; the autorun installer
    just launched the individual game installer programs, for instance.
    There was no real integration or extras. The most exciting thing about
    it was that all the games came on one single DVD, which was still a
    fairly new format at the time.

    The remaster didn't impress me. It's new graphics looked too... I
    dunno, I guess soft? The gameplay was the same but I liked the
    grittier feel to the visuals enabled by the low-res textures of the
    original. The remaster felt cartoony in comparison.

    (the video cinematics were also very obviously just upscaled by AI
    rather than redone entirely from the masters.)

    Considering I already owned the originals (and they run quite well in
    DOSBox) the remasters didn't really feel worth what I paid for them.

    It sucks that EA couldn't find/get all the original video tapes that they wanted to remaster for the game. :(

    Companies really need to archive and back up their originals better.
    --
    "Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house." ?Matthew 12:29. Quiet final 2024's Sun. after a BUSY Sat & b4 BUSY Mon?
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Dec 29 11:01:54 2024
    On 12/29/2024 10:26 AM, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:49:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I still need to try that remaster! I got The First Decade bundle set from Da
    Lion (remember him from the old C&C days?).

    I have 'em both! My most intense memory of the First Decade
    compilation was how cheaply put together it was; the autorun installer
    just launched the individual game installer programs, for instance.
    There was no real integration or extras. The most exciting thing about
    it was that all the games came on one single DVD, which was still a
    fairly new format at the time.

    The remaster didn't impress me. It's new graphics looked too... I
    dunno, I guess soft? The gameplay was the same but I liked the
    grittier feel to the visuals enabled by the low-res textures of the
    original. The remaster felt cartoony in comparison.

    (the video cinematics were also very obviously just upscaled by AI
    rather than redone entirely from the masters.)

    Considering I already owned the originals (and they run quite well in
    DOSBox) the remasters didn't really feel worth what I paid for them.

    It sucks that EA couldn't find/get all the original video tapes that they wanted to remaster for the game. :(

    Companies really need to archive and back up their originals better.

    It is surprisingly expensive to properly archive pretty much of anything
    so it tends to get the short dollar to start with and is one of the
    first targets of budget cuts.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 25 16:01:56 2024
    Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
    the last time, a final and heartfelt:

    Nice, take a break Spalls !

    rms

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Wed Dec 25 18:07:59 2024
    On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 17:59:47 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
    the last time, a final and heartfelt:

    Ho-ho-ho.

    Thank you Spalls for sharing your extra codes with us. I look forward
    to playing all of these games. Which is more then what I can say about
    Epic's giveaway so far.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net on Wed Dec 25 19:06:26 2024
    On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 16:01:56 -0700, "rms"
    <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

    Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
    the last time, a final and heartfelt:

    Nice, take a break Spalls !

    rms

    Lol! Spamming of all manners is an addiction, taking a break isn't
    always as easy as it sounds.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Dec 26 00:58:42 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Ho-ho-ho!

    And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
    even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
    fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

    It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.


    * Doom + Doom II (2024) https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
    Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
    is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
    another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
    one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
    Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
    the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
    visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
    operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
    what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
    Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
    CSIPGA.

    Steam said "This Steam account already owns the product(s) contained in
    this offer. To access them, visit your library in the Steam client." Huh?


    The tree is bare now. All gifts have been passed out; all boxes
    opened. And just in time too; the clock is chiming midnight and
    Christmas is coming to an end. Take your presents and enjoy them all;
    enjoy the good will and happiness of the season. I hope you all had
    fun. I hope I made what can ordinarily be a quite stressful season a
    more bearable time and reminded us of the innocent joy that Christmas
    used to represent.

    Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
    the last time, a final and heartfelt:

    Ho-ho-ho.

    Aw, it's over? :( Well, we still have Epic.
    --
    "See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven?" --Hebrews 12:25. :) BD Jesus & Merry Xmas!
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Dec 26 01:00:31 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Ho-ho-ho!

    And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
    even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
    fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

    It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.


    * Doom + Doom II (2024) https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
    Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
    is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
    another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
    one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
    Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
    the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
    visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
    operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
    what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
    Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
    CSIPGA.

    Steam said "This Steam account already owns the product(s) contained in
    this offer. To access them, visit your library in the Steam client." Huh?

    Oh, I got the free 2024 upgrades according to https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2280?updates=true. That explains
    it! :)


    The tree is bare now. All gifts have been passed out; all boxes
    opened. And just in time too; the clock is chiming midnight and
    Christmas is coming to an end. Take your presents and enjoy them all;
    enjoy the good will and happiness of the season. I hope you all had
    fun. I hope I made what can ordinarily be a quite stressful season a
    more bearable time and reminded us of the innocent joy that Christmas
    used to represent.

    Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
    the last time, a final and heartfelt:

    Ho-ho-ho.

    Aw, it's over? :( Well, we still have Epic.

    Oh, and thank you Spalls and everyone else! Merry Christmas!
    --
    "See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven?" --Hebrews 12:25. :) BD Jesus & Merry Xmas!
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 25 23:35:01 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:


    Ho-ho-ho!

    And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
    even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
    fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

    It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.


    * Doom + Doom II (2024) >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
    Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
    is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
    another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
    one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
    Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
    the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
    visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
    operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
    what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
    Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
    CSIPGA.

    Snagalicious!

    Xocyll

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Thu Dec 26 07:15:30 2024
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:


    Ho-ho-ho!

    And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
    even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
    fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

    It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.


    * Doom + Doom II (2024) >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
    Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
    is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
    another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
    one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
    Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
    the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
    visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
    operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
    what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
    Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
    CSIPGA.

    Snagalicious!

    Did you ever played classic DOOMs?
    --
    "Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me." --John 12:26. Ant must serve after uneventful fast Xmas day.
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 26 09:20:43 2024
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
    spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:


    Ho-ho-ho!

    And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
    even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
    fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

    It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.


    * Doom + Doom II (2024)
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
    Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
    is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
    another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
    one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
    Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
    the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
    visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
    operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
    what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
    Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
    CSIPGA.

    Snagalicious!

    Did you ever played classic DOOMs?

    Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have
    working sound until the patch a few days later.

    DOOM1 DOOM2, and that was it, never played the later ones.

    They seemed so shallow after playing Duke Nukem 3D, and by all accounts
    in here when DOOM3 came out it was jump scares and lack of light that
    was it's driving design.
    Light or gun but not both, has no one heard of duct tape? That's just
    idiotic design.

    Xocyll

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Dec 26 19:28:20 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    Did you ever played classic DOOMs?

    Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have >working sound until the patch a few days later.

    Ahh, the days of downloading your games over slow FTP servers. By the
    time you managed to slowly trickle the archive over the modem to your computer, the developers had enough time to release the next version
    ;-)

    Oh please. Try dial-up BBSes! Those were my days for DOOM! And then, I
    finally got Internet in 1993 via college shell accounts! I still
    remember ftp.idsoftware.com, ftp.cdrom.com/pub/games/doom..., etc. I
    miss those days.


    They seemed so shallow after playing Duke Nukem 3D, and by all accounts
    in here when DOOM3 came out it was jump scares and lack of light that
    was it's driving design.

    Were there ever free Duke Nukem game giveaways in here?


    "Doom 3" was an undeniable departure from the earlier games, but over
    the years I've come to enjoy it quite a lot. It owes a lot more to survival-shooters (sort of like "Resident Evil") being much more
    slow-paced, with the monsters hitting harder and being harder to hit.
    Its visual design is amazing. All that darkness works poorly if your expecting an FPS --where being able to make out the enemies is
    paramount-- but it works very well for horror. I was less enthralled
    with the monster closets (which to be fair was a hold-over from
    classic Dooms), although mostly because they were so predictible and
    felt out of character with the rest of the game's atmosphere.

    One thing I've found is that "Doom 3" is best served by playing it in
    short bursts. I can whip through the entire shareware episode of the
    original "Doom" in a single sitting, but I find "Doom 3" quickly
    becomes tiresome if I do more than one or two maps in a row. But if I
    give it a break in between, the game remains an intense and fun
    experience.

    TL;DR: "Doom 3" is a good game, but it was too different for many
    Doom-fans, who (myself included, at the time of its release) were
    unable to re-adjust their expectations.

    I enjoyed DOOM 3. Sure, it wasn't good as the first two. I still have my
    retail game that I showed in a few weeks ago in another thread post!
    --
    "Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me." --John 12:26. We must serve Jesus. It had been 20 yrs. since Asia's tsunami on Boxing day after Xmas. :(
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Dec 27 00:30:05 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 07:15 this Thursday (GMT):
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:


    Ho-ho-ho!

    And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
    even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
    fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

    It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.


    * Doom + Doom II (2024)
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
    Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
    is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
    another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
    one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
    Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
    the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
    visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
    operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
    what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
    Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
    CSIPGA.

    Snagalicious!

    Did you ever played classic DOOMs?


    I've played shareware doom
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 07:58:03 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 09:20:43 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:


    Ho-ho-ho!

    And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an >>>> >even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our >>>> >fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

    It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.


    * Doom + Doom II (2024)
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
    Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
    is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
    another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
    one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
    Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
    the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
    visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
    operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
    what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
    Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
    CSIPGA.

    Snagalicious!

    Did you ever played classic DOOMs?

    Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have >>working sound until the patch a few days later.

    Ahh, the days of downloading your games over slow FTP servers. By the
    time you managed to slowly trickle the archive over the modem to your >computer, the developers had enough time to release the next version
    ;-)

    Local BBS actually, or just copying disks.

    Did Archie (or was it Veronica?) looking of mods for it and the ftp'ing
    those

    They seemed so shallow after playing Duke Nukem 3D, and by all accounts
    in here when DOOM3 came out it was jump scares and lack of light that
    was it's driving design.

    "Doom 3" was an undeniable departure from the earlier games, but over
    the years I've come to enjoy it quite a lot. It owes a lot more to >survival-shooters (sort of like "Resident Evil") being much more
    slow-paced, with the monsters hitting harder and being harder to hit.
    Its visual design is amazing. All that darkness works poorly if your >expecting an FPS --where being able to make out the enemies is
    paramount-- but it works very well for horror. I was less enthralled
    with the monster closets (which to be fair was a hold-over from
    classic Dooms), although mostly because they were so predictible and
    felt out of character with the rest of the game's atmosphere.

    One thing I've found is that "Doom 3" is best served by playing it in
    short bursts. I can whip through the entire shareware episode of the
    original "Doom" in a single sitting, but I find "Doom 3" quickly
    becomes tiresome if I do more than one or two maps in a row. But if I
    give it a break in between, the game remains an intense and fun
    experience.

    TL;DR: "Doom 3" is a good game, but it was too different for many
    Doom-fans, who (myself included, at the time of its release) were
    unable to re-adjust their expectations.

    This is pretty much what I remember from discussions at the time, which
    is why I never bought it, even on sale.

    Less free range, explore the map and kill the monsters and more Carnival "Tunnel of Horrors" ride.

    Xocyll

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Dec 27 18:36:22 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 19:28:20 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    Did you ever played classic DOOMs?

    Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have
    working sound until the patch a few days later.

    Ahh, the days of downloading your games over slow FTP servers. By the
    time you managed to slowly trickle the archive over the modem to your
    computer, the developers had enough time to release the next version
    ;-)

    Oh please. Try dial-up BBSes! Those were my days for DOOM! And then, I >finally got Internet in 1993 via college shell accounts! I still
    remember ftp.idsoftware.com, ftp.cdrom.com/pub/games/doom..., etc. I
    miss those days.

    I did! That's how I initially got onto FTP servers, actually. I'd dial
    up a BBS and then use their FTP to connect to wuarchive or wherever.
    I'd download the file first to my BBS storage, and THEN download it a
    second time to the local PC.

    For me, I was using shell accounts and used Z-modem to transfer files
    like sz and rz commands! This was before I discovered PPP and SLIP with
    free SLiRP and paid TIA for their emulations for Internet stuff like the
    web. :D


    (Don't ask me why the SysOp had such a complicated method. I was glad
    just to get access at all. I'd have driven over to wherever they were
    located with a box of floppies if that's what it would have taken ;-)

    Oh yeah. BBS meets too! I also downloaded and uploaded brand new game
    demos too to my local BBS (we made DOOM 2 mods back then too: https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/files/doom2/j2doom/j2doom.html)!


    Were there ever free Duke Nukem game giveaways in here?

    Not as far as I'm aware. It certainly was never one of the games I
    gave away, and my ever-so-brief search doesn't show any announcements
    of it being given away elsewhere.

    I played the Duke Nukems a few years back. (Well, okay, the
    spreadsheet says it was in 2009, so more than a few). The first two
    are pretty forgetable platformers, and aside from the nostalgia factor
    I had a really hard time getting into them again (especially the first
    one, with its PC Speaker sound). Duke Nukem 3D surprised me on a technological level with how advanced it was; sure, it looked old, but
    it had vehicles, and walls that blew up, and all sorts of neat stuff
    that made the game feel less ancient than some of its contemporaries,
    like Quake. But the game I found most fun to actually play was
    "Manhattan Project". Still, overall the sophomoric humor was pretty
    cringe even in 2009, and I doubt it's aged any better since.

    I'm not sad to leave the Duke back in the past.

    Duke3D was awesome. I remember being one of the firsts to download and
    play its shareware in college. IIRC, I got it from Avault.com's PCRL
    (remember Rex who ran it?). My college dorm RA and I were playing in the
    dark silently while my roommate were asleep. Hahahahah!

    I also no C&C giveaways too! :P
    --
    "Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it." --1 Corinthians 12:27. Slammy Thursday!
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)