• Re: Bioshock Remastered - GoG free

    From Mike S.@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Sat Nov 9 09:49:22 2024
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 02:20:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Is this reverse psychology and it actually IS a code?

    I was thinking the same thing. I'm still not going to try it though.
    Zag isn't going to fool me!!!

    Or is he?

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Mike S on Sat Nov 9 17:50:03 2024
    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 14:49 this Saturday (GMT):
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 02:20:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
    <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Is this reverse psychology and it actually IS a code?

    I was thinking the same thing. I'm still not going to try it though.
    Zag isn't going to fool me!!!

    Or is he?


    Oh no, now I'm confused!
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Nov 9 12:50:01 2024
    On 11/9/2024 12:10 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:43:39 +0100, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 7:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    do people use Steam groups at all? that seems to be one of those parts
    of Steam that just is there with no interaction at all.

    Same with these Steam points that allow me to... buy stuff for a profile
    nobody ever looks at anyway...

    I really get the impression that Valve thought up as Steam points as
    being something with real monetary use (you get 1 point per 1 US
    dollar of purchases, I think), that could then maybe be redeemed to
    buy games or something real.

    Except then the lawyers pointed out that it was a form of currency and
    would probably cause them all sorts of legal problems, especially
    given how many jurisdictions Valve operates in, so they quickly backed
    away from the idea. Except now people have thousands of points and
    nothing to do with it? Quick, give them useless, untradable digital gimcracks.

    [I like the profile page. It lets me quickly see how many
    games I own on Steam, and how many reviews I've posted.
    Although the difference between those two numbers is
    disturbingly large... maybe its better if I stop looking.]

    Is it safe to ask which of the two Numbers is larger?

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Nov 9 17:03:57 2024
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:10:40 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:43:39 +0100, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 7:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    do people use Steam groups at all? that seems to be one of those parts
    of Steam that just is there with no interaction at all.

    Same with these Steam points that allow me to... buy stuff for a profile >>nobody ever looks at anyway...

    I really get the impression that Valve thought up as Steam points as
    being something with real monetary use (you get 1 point per 1 US
    dollar of purchases, I think), that could then maybe be redeemed to
    buy games or something real.

    Except then the lawyers pointed out that it was a form of currency and
    would probably cause them all sorts of legal problems, especially
    given how many jurisdictions Valve operates in, so they quickly backed
    away from the idea. Except now people have thousands of points and
    nothing to do with it? Quick, give them useless, untradable digital >gimcracks.

    [I like the profile page. It lets me quickly see how many
    games I own on Steam, and how many reviews I've posted.
    Although the difference between those two numbers is
    disturbingly large... maybe its better if I stop looking.]

    I've used Steam points to 'buy' rewards (equally useless) for good
    reviews, but that's pretty much it, and mostly because I've earned so
    many points I don't know what else to do with them.

    I don't know. Nintendo gives me Gold Coins that translate 1:1 with a
    penny (ie: 100 GC is $1 off a purchase). If they can pull it off, surely
    Valve can?

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 16:59:36 2024
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:50:03 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:

    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 14:49 this Saturday (GMT):
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 02:20:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 >><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Is this reverse psychology and it actually IS a code?

    I was thinking the same thing. I'm still not going to try it though.
    Zag isn't going to fool me!!!

    Or is he?


    Oh no, now I'm confused!

    (*the Confuse-A-Cat van drives off into the sunset*)

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Sat Nov 9 23:58:24 2024
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:50:03 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:

    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 14:49 this Saturday (GMT):
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 02:20:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 >><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Is this reverse psychology and it actually IS a code?

    I was thinking the same thing. I'm still not going to try it though.
    Zag isn't going to fool me!!!

    Or is he?


    Oh no, now I'm confused!

    (*the Confuse-A-Cat van drives off into the sunset*)

    I had to Google that and found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzi3k7K0lFA
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Sun Nov 10 00:01:36 2024
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:10:04 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:

    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    When there are bots scraping codes off the publically available Usenet
    group? I guess so. This is sheer brilliance.

    Those of us who give out codes have been deeply frustrated with the
    situation and do 5HD61 ridicul99FD3ous things toDND24 obfuscate them.

    77777

    NOT A REAL CODE! Suck it scrapers.

    12345 :D
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Sun Nov 10 00:10:05 2024
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 23:03 this Saturday (GMT):
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:10:40 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:43:39 +0100, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 7:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    do people use Steam groups at all? that seems to be one of those parts
    of Steam that just is there with no interaction at all.

    Same with these Steam points that allow me to... buy stuff for a profile >>>nobody ever looks at anyway...

    I really get the impression that Valve thought up as Steam points as
    being something with real monetary use (you get 1 point per 1 US
    dollar of purchases, I think), that could then maybe be redeemed to
    buy games or something real.

    Except then the lawyers pointed out that it was a form of currency and >>would probably cause them all sorts of legal problems, especially
    given how many jurisdictions Valve operates in, so they quickly backed
    away from the idea. Except now people have thousands of points and
    nothing to do with it? Quick, give them useless, untradable digital >>gimcracks.

    [I like the profile page. It lets me quickly see how many
    games I own on Steam, and how many reviews I've posted.
    Although the difference between those two numbers is
    disturbingly large... maybe its better if I stop looking.]

    I've used Steam points to 'buy' rewards (equally useless) for good
    reviews, but that's pretty much it, and mostly because I've earned so
    many points I don't know what else to do with them.

    I don't know. Nintendo gives me Gold Coins that translate 1:1 with a
    penny (ie: 100 GC is $1 off a purchase). If they can pull it off, surely Valve can?


    To be fair, Nintendo is a Japanese company. Maybe the laws are different
    there.
    --
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Sat Nov 9 19:13:37 2024
    On 11/9/2024 4:19 PM, kyonshi wrote:
    On 11/9/24 21:50, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/9/2024 12:10 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:43:39 +0100, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 7:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    do people use Steam groups at all? that seems to be one of those parts >>>> of Steam that just is there with no interaction at all.

    Same with these Steam points that allow me to... buy stuff for a
    profile
    nobody ever looks at anyway...

    I really get the impression that Valve thought up as Steam points as
    being something with real monetary use (you get 1 point per 1 US
    dollar of purchases, I think), that could then maybe be redeemed to
    buy games or something real.

    Except then the lawyers pointed out that it was a form of currency and
    would probably cause them all sorts of legal problems, especially
    given how many jurisdictions Valve operates in, so they quickly backed
    away from the idea. Except now people have thousands of points and
    nothing to do with it? Quick, give them useless, untradable digital
    gimcracks.

         [I like the profile page. It lets me quickly see how many
          games I own on Steam, and how many reviews I've posted.
          Although the difference between those two numbers is
          disturbingly large... maybe its better if I stop looking.]

    Is it safe to ask which of the two Numbers is larger?


    well, if the number get ever larger the amount of reviews just starts
    lagging behind.
    I mean, there's a lot of stuff in my library that I never even wanted to touch after adding them in (likely in a fit of short-term madness)

    "Short-term?" :P

    --
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    dirty old man.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Sun Nov 10 03:20:06 2024
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 00:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    On 11/10/24 01:10, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 23:03 this Saturday (GMT):
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:10:40 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:43:39 +0100, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 7:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    do people use Steam groups at all? that seems to be one of those parts >>>>> of Steam that just is there with no interaction at all.

    Same with these Steam points that allow me to... buy stuff for a profile >>>>> nobody ever looks at anyway...

    I really get the impression that Valve thought up as Steam points as
    being something with real monetary use (you get 1 point per 1 US
    dollar of purchases, I think), that could then maybe be redeemed to
    buy games or something real.

    Except then the lawyers pointed out that it was a form of currency and >>>> would probably cause them all sorts of legal problems, especially
    given how many jurisdictions Valve operates in, so they quickly backed >>>> away from the idea. Except now people have thousands of points and
    nothing to do with it? Quick, give them useless, untradable digital
    gimcracks.

    [I like the profile page. It lets me quickly see how many
    games I own on Steam, and how many reviews I've posted.
    Although the difference between those two numbers is
    disturbingly large... maybe its better if I stop looking.]

    I've used Steam points to 'buy' rewards (equally useless) for good
    reviews, but that's pretty much it, and mostly because I've earned so
    many points I don't know what else to do with them.

    I don't know. Nintendo gives me Gold Coins that translate 1:1 with a
    penny (ie: 100 GC is $1 off a purchase). If they can pull it off, surely >>> Valve can?


    To be fair, Nintendo is a Japanese company. Maybe the laws are different
    there.

    There likely is a difference between how the contracts for both work.

    Or Nintendo simply has good lawyers at hand to work the kinks out, while Valve just doesn't want to bother.


    Nintendo DEFINITELY has good lawyers.
    --
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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 21:41:58 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 00:01:36 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant
    wrote:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:10:04 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    candycanearter07 wrote:

    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    When there are bots scraping codes off the publically available Usenet
    group? I guess so. This is sheer brilliance.

    Those of us who give out codes have been deeply frustrated with the
    situation and do 5HD61 ridicul99FD3ous things toDND24 obfuscate them.

    77777

    NOT A REAL CODE! Suck it scrapers.

    12345 :D

    That's the combination on my LUGGAGE!

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 21:46:29 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 00:10:05 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 23:03 this Saturday (GMT):
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:10:40 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:43:39 +0100, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/8/2024 7:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    do people use Steam groups at all? that seems to be one of those parts >>>>of Steam that just is there with no interaction at all.

    Same with these Steam points that allow me to... buy stuff for a profile >>>>nobody ever looks at anyway...

    I really get the impression that Valve thought up as Steam points as >>>being something with real monetary use (you get 1 point per 1 US
    dollar of purchases, I think), that could then maybe be redeemed to
    buy games or something real.

    Except then the lawyers pointed out that it was a form of currency and >>>would probably cause them all sorts of legal problems, especially
    given how many jurisdictions Valve operates in, so they quickly backed >>>away from the idea. Except now people have thousands of points and >>>nothing to do with it? Quick, give them useless, untradable digital >>>gimcracks.

    [I like the profile page. It lets me quickly see how many
    games I own on Steam, and how many reviews I've posted.
    Although the difference between those two numbers is
    disturbingly large... maybe its better if I stop looking.]

    I've used Steam points to 'buy' rewards (equally useless) for good >>>reviews, but that's pretty much it, and mostly because I've earned so >>>many points I don't know what else to do with them.

    I don't know. Nintendo gives me Gold Coins that translate 1:1 with a
    penny (ie: 100 GC is $1 off a purchase). If they can pull it off, surely
    Valve can?


    To be fair, Nintendo is a Japanese company. Maybe the laws are different >there.

    I think the jurisdiction would be the United States for transactions with
    me, just as they charge my state's sales tax on each purchase.

    They also have an American operation, Nintendo of America, which is
    likely how they manage transactions. Anyone get Nintendo coins in other countries?

    On a side note, GOG just this year (or last) started charging sales tax
    for my purchases though they had not done so for years.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Nov 10 11:43:11 2024
    On 08/11/2024 16:44, Ant wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

    Me please as shown in here and there. ;)

    Ooh, I see and got it. Thanks. :D

    It's not a bad game but I found it difficult to enjoy as I fell for the
    hype about how it played when in reality it's just a solid FPS shooter
    in a different environment. I'm pretty sure that it was the last game
    ever that I pre-ordered, still it came in a nice metal case so there's that!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 11:36:09 2024
    On 08/11/2024 18:10, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    As Zag said it really does protect against someone who isn't active in
    this group using it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 07:48:14 2024
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 21:41:58 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    That's the combination on my LUGGAGE!

    Damn it, you beat me to it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sun Nov 10 08:53:38 2024
    On 11/10/2024 4:48 AM, Mike S. wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 21:41:58 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    That's the combination on my LUGGAGE!

    Damn it, you beat me to it.

    Still better than when the default password on a new system is 'Password'.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 08:54:53 2024
    On 11/9/2024 7:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 00:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    On 11/10/24 01:10, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 23:03 this Saturday (GMT):
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:10:40 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:43:39 +0100, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 11/8/2024 7:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    do people use Steam groups at all? that seems to be one of those parts >>>>>> of Steam that just is there with no interaction at all.

    Same with these Steam points that allow me to... buy stuff for a profile >>>>>> nobody ever looks at anyway...

    I really get the impression that Valve thought up as Steam points as >>>>> being something with real monetary use (you get 1 point per 1 US
    dollar of purchases, I think), that could then maybe be redeemed to
    buy games or something real.

    Except then the lawyers pointed out that it was a form of currency and >>>>> would probably cause them all sorts of legal problems, especially
    given how many jurisdictions Valve operates in, so they quickly backed >>>>> away from the idea. Except now people have thousands of points and
    nothing to do with it? Quick, give them useless, untradable digital
    gimcracks.

    [I like the profile page. It lets me quickly see how many
    games I own on Steam, and how many reviews I've posted.
    Although the difference between those two numbers is
    disturbingly large... maybe its better if I stop looking.]

    I've used Steam points to 'buy' rewards (equally useless) for good
    reviews, but that's pretty much it, and mostly because I've earned so >>>>> many points I don't know what else to do with them.

    I don't know. Nintendo gives me Gold Coins that translate 1:1 with a
    penny (ie: 100 GC is $1 off a purchase). If they can pull it off, surely >>>> Valve can?


    To be fair, Nintendo is a Japanese company. Maybe the laws are different >>> there.

    There likely is a difference between how the contracts for both work.

    Or Nintendo simply has good lawyers at hand to work the kinks out, while
    Valve just doesn't want to bother.


    Nintendo DEFINITELY has good lawyers.

    House of Mouse level good?

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Nov 11 01:26:23 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 11:43:11 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 08/11/2024 16:44, Ant wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

    Me please as shown in here and there. ;)

    Ooh, I see and got it. Thanks. :D

    It's not a bad game but I found it difficult to enjoy as I fell for the >hype about how it played when in reality it's just a solid FPS shooter
    in a different environment. I'm pretty sure that it was the last game
    ever that I pre-ordered, still it came in a nice metal case so there's that!

    The hype for this game (well, the original edition) was enormous on
    release, with many claiming it would be the next sandbox-sim like
    "Deus Ex" and "System Shock". But it was so limited in comparison that
    these claims pretty much fell apart once you played it. I often
    hesitate to make claims of 'consolitis' being the cause, but I think
    in this case it would be quite merited; the hardware of the time
    (especially the limited memory) resulted in a much weaker experience.

    "Bioshock" wasn't without its good points; it's take-down of Randian
    beliefs was on-point, the game's aesthetics were impressive (if not in
    the least bit realistic) and the water effects were top-notch. But the gameplay was unspectacular, with far too much reliance on the "ooh,
    there's an oil pit I can light on fire" environmental trickery to
    carry the game.

    The "Remastered Edition" was incredibly disappointing, since it was
    largely bringing the console editions up to the quality of the PC
    version. On the PC, it's hard to even notice any changes. It's still
    the better version to play but if you've the older edition already,
    there's no real need to go out and replay the newer.

    OK, so I should play the remaster since I only played its original demo
    back then. My PC can handle the remaster from its requirements. GoG gave
    me both versions! :O

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Mon Nov 11 01:27:58 2024
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 21:41:58 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    That's the combination on my LUGGAGE!

    Damn it, you beat me to it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k

    Spaceballs FTW!
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Nov 11 01:24:51 2024
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 08/11/2024 16:44, Ant wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

    Me please as shown in here and there. ;)

    Ooh, I see and got it. Thanks. :D

    It's not a bad game but I found it difficult to enjoy as I fell for the
    hype about how it played when in reality it's just a solid FPS shooter
    in a different environment. I'm pretty sure that it was the last game
    ever that I pre-ordered, still it came in a nice metal case so there's that!

    I only played its playable demo. I liked it. I know it is not good as
    System Shock 2 which I enjoyed a lot. I couldn't get into System Shock 1
    due to its awful controls. I still need to try its re(master/boot) or
    whatever it is.
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Nov 11 01:27:14 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 23:58:24 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:50:03 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >> candycanearter07 wrote:

    Oh no, now I'm confused!

    (*the Confuse-A-Cat van drives off into the sunset*)

    I had to Google that and found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzi3k7K0lFA

    I did a Captain America. "I understood that reference."

    Does that mean I get to hang out with the cool kids now? ;-)

    Ha, sure. I love that Galaga scene in The Avengers. ;-) FYI, I'm not a
    Monty Python fan. I couldn't get into it. I guess I am not cool enough! :P

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Mon Nov 11 01:40:05 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 16:54 this Sunday (GMT):
    On 11/9/2024 7:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 00:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    [snip]

    There likely is a difference between how the contracts for both work.

    Or Nintendo simply has good lawyers at hand to work the kinks out, while >>> Valve just doesn't want to bother.


    Nintendo DEFINITELY has good lawyers.

    House of Mouse level good?


    Well, I don't think Nintendo has rewritten any laws, so not yet.
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Nov 11 01:40:05 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 01:27 this Monday (GMT):
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 23:58:24 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:50:03 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >> >> candycanearter07 wrote:

    Oh no, now I'm confused!

    (*the Confuse-A-Cat van drives off into the sunset*)

    I had to Google that and found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzi3k7K0lFA

    I did a Captain America. "I understood that reference."

    Does that mean I get to hang out with the cool kids now? ;-)

    Ha, sure. I love that Galaga scene in The Avengers. ;-) FYI, I'm not a
    Monty Python fan. I couldn't get into it. I guess I am not cool enough! :P


    I'm not really a fan of most super hero movies, I think the only ones I
    watched were like 2007's Avengers, and (unfortunately) 2024 Flash.

    Also, I haven't watched Monty Python yet but I really want to!!
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Mon Nov 11 01:47:33 2024
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 01:27 this Monday (GMT):
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 23:58:24 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:50:03 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    candycanearter07 wrote:

    Oh no, now I'm confused!

    (*the Confuse-A-Cat van drives off into the sunset*)

    I had to Google that and found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzi3k7K0lFA

    I did a Captain America. "I understood that reference."

    Does that mean I get to hang out with the cool kids now? ;-)

    Ha, sure. I love that Galaga scene in The Avengers. ;-) FYI, I'm not a Monty Python fan. I couldn't get into it. I guess I am not cool enough! :P

    I'm not really a fan of most super hero movies, I think the only ones I watched were like 2007's Avengers, and (unfortunately) 2024 Flash.

    I love superheroes even City of Heroes (and Villains to be the bad
    guys). Flash (2023, not 2024) was bad even it had cool Batman scenes.


    Also, I haven't watched Monty Python yet but I really want to!!

    Lots of videos on YouTube!
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Mon Nov 11 01:48:37 2024
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 01:27 this Monday (GMT):
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 21:41:58 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    That's the combination on my LUGGAGE!

    Damn it, you beat me to it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k

    Spaceballs FTW!

    Oh man, I've watched that movie so many times and I can't believe I
    missed that! Callback jokes are great.

    ;) I remember watching it the first time on local TV broadcast back in
    the 90s. I saw it again on DVD and still love it. I also saw the cartoon version. It wasn't good though.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Nov 11 11:12:07 2024
    On 10/11/2024 15:27, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 11:43:11 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 08/11/2024 16:44, Ant wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

    Me please as shown in here and there. ;)

    Ooh, I see and got it. Thanks. :D

    It's not a bad game but I found it difficult to enjoy as I fell for the
    hype about how it played when in reality it's just a solid FPS shooter
    in a different environment. I'm pretty sure that it was the last game
    ever that I pre-ordered, still it came in a nice metal case so there's that!

    The hype for this game (well, the original edition) was enormous on
    release, with many claiming it would be the next sandbox-sim like
    "Deus Ex" and "System Shock". But it was so limited in comparison that
    these claims pretty much fell apart once you played it. I often
    hesitate to make claims of 'consolitis' being the cause, but I think
    in this case it would be quite merited; the hardware of the time
    (especially the limited memory) resulted in a much weaker experience.

    "Bioshock" wasn't without its good points; it's take-down of Randian
    beliefs was on-point, the game's aesthetics were impressive (if not in
    the least bit realistic) and the water effects were top-notch. But the gameplay was unspectacular, with far too much reliance on the "ooh,
    there's an oil pit I can light on fire" environmental trickery to
    carry the game.

    The "Remastered Edition" was incredibly disappointing, since it was
    largely bringing the console editions up to the quality of the PC
    version. On the PC, it's hard to even notice any changes. It's still
    the better version to play but if you've the older edition already,
    there's no real need to go out and replay the newer.


    One of the disappointments that stood out was the early gameplay footage showing the interesting use of traps and the environment. The problem,
    it was just easier to shot them in the face so why bother!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Nov 11 11:15:28 2024
    On 11/11/2024 01:24, Ant wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 08/11/2024 16:44, Ant wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

    Me please as shown in here and there. ;)

    Ooh, I see and got it. Thanks. :D

    It's not a bad game but I found it difficult to enjoy as I fell for the
    hype about how it played when in reality it's just a solid FPS shooter
    in a different environment. I'm pretty sure that it was the last game
    ever that I pre-ordered, still it came in a nice metal case so there's that!

    I only played its playable demo. I liked it. I know it is not good as
    System Shock 2 which I enjoyed a lot. I couldn't get into System Shock 1
    due to its awful controls. I still need to try its re(master/boot) or whatever it is.

    I actually enjoyed BS:3 far more as my expectations, and price point,
    where much lower. I wouldn't say it was a great game but more than worth
    the £5 I paid for it.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2FtdWVsIFPDtmRlcmJlcmc=?@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Nov 11 11:53:57 2024
    On 8 Nov 2024 at 12:15:26 CET, "JAB" <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

    Is there a Steam group...?

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Nov 11 08:58:40 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 01:24:51 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I only played its playable demo. I liked it. I know it is not good as
    System Shock 2 which I enjoyed a lot. I couldn't get into System Shock 1
    due to its awful controls. I still need to try its re(master/boot) or >whatever it is.

    As I understand it, a REMASTER uses the original game code and just
    changes what they can, usually the visuals and maybe the controls. A
    REMAKE completely rebuilds the game in a new engine, but is otherwise,
    mostly the same game. A REBOOT also recreates the game in a new engine
    but also takes it in an entirely new direction thus making it a new
    experience.

    If I have those definitions correct, that would make System Shock 1 a
    REMAKE.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Nov 11 16:40:06 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 16:05 this Monday (GMT):
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 01:40:05 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
    <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 16:54 this Sunday (GMT): >>> On 11/9/2024 7:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 00:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    [snip]

    There likely is a difference between how the contracts for both work. >>>>>
    Or Nintendo simply has good lawyers at hand to work the kinks out, while >>>>> Valve just doesn't want to bother.


    Nintendo DEFINITELY has good lawyers.

    House of Mouse level good?


    Well, I don't think Nintendo has rewritten any laws, so not yet.

    Actually, in Japan Nintendo (and other software companies) have had a
    lot of influence on its copyright and patent laws (which are
    significantly different from that of the West). A lot of Nintendo's
    (and Capcom's, and Konami, and the rest) seemingly overbearing
    behavior when it comes fighting its fans about tribute games, and
    streaming, and mods is a result of that difference. The copyright
    holder has a lot more power of what can be done with their IP in
    Japan, and things like fair use are much more restricted. And
    Nintendo, Sony, and the rest have pressured politicians to keep it
    that way, or change it to their advantage.


    Well, that's scary.
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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 11 12:41:55 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 23:58:24 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:50:03 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >>> candycanearter07 wrote:

    Oh no, now I'm confused!

    (*the Confuse-A-Cat van drives off into the sunset*)

    I had to Google that and found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzi3k7K0lFA

    I did a Captain America. "I understood that reference."

    Does that mean I get to hang out with the cool kids now? ;-)

    Only if you are humming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSCzDykng4g

    Xocyll

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Mon Nov 11 14:13:17 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 11:00:25 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    There's really no hard and fast rule, although I generally don't
    disagree with your definitions. But, for instance, the recently
    released "Dark Forces" described itself as a "Remaster", even though
    it used an entirely new engine.

    Ahh, ok. Then there really is no hard and fast rule then as you say.
    Thank you.

    Also, reboots aren't limited to recreating a game; often, they just
    take some of the characters and general ideas of the game and
    represent it in a new way. This might go so far as change the game's
    genre entirely (for example, "Prince of Persia: Sands of Time")

    The TL;DR is that the words are used fairly interchangably in the
    industry and if you try to insist on specific definitions you're going
    to be incredibly frustrated. Marketing cares not for your definitions
    ;-)

    Point taken. :-P

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Mon Nov 11 14:49:56 2024
    On 11/11/2024 11:13 AM, Mike S. wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 11:00:25 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    There's really no hard and fast rule, although I generally don't
    disagree with your definitions. But, for instance, the recently
    released "Dark Forces" described itself as a "Remaster", even though
    it used an entirely new engine.

    Ahh, ok. Then there really is no hard and fast rule then as you say.
    Thank you.

    In Sales & Marketing there is only one hard & fast rule.

    Take the marks for everything they have.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Mon Nov 11 14:52:22 2024
    On 11/11/2024 9:41 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 23:58:24 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:50:03 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >>>> candycanearter07 wrote:

    Oh no, now I'm confused!

    (*the Confuse-A-Cat van drives off into the sunset*)

    I had to Google that and found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzi3k7K0lFA >>
    I did a Captain America. "I understood that reference."

    Does that mean I get to hang out with the cool kids now? ;-)

    Only if you are humming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSCzDykng4g

    I'm suddenly VERY happy to not be a cool kid. :D

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 11 15:26:16 2024
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.
    Is there a Steam group...?

    https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA

    rms

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Tue Nov 12 10:31:42 2024
    On 11/11/2024 19:13, Mike S. wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 11:00:25 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    There's really no hard and fast rule, although I generally don't
    disagree with your definitions. But, for instance, the recently
    released "Dark Forces" described itself as a "Remaster", even though
    it used an entirely new engine.

    Ahh, ok. Then there really is no hard and fast rule then as you say.
    Thank you.

    Also, reboots aren't limited to recreating a game; often, they just
    take some of the characters and general ideas of the game and
    represent it in a new way. This might go so far as change the game's
    genre entirely (for example, "Prince of Persia: Sands of Time")

    The TL;DR is that the words are used fairly interchangably in the
    industry and if you try to insist on specific definitions you're going
    to be incredibly frustrated. Marketing cares not for your definitions
    ;-)

    Point taken. :-P

    I tend to think of it as they are just a spectrum of overlapping
    'bubbles' with a graphics/QoL enhancement at one end and just keeping
    the essence of the game at the other.

    Oh, and we forgot about enhanced additions!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to rms on Tue Nov 12 10:38:06 2024
    On 11/11/2024 22:26, rms wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.
    Is there a Steam group...?

      https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA


    Even better apparently I'm, like you, some sort of moderator. Kneel
    before my power mere mortals!

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Nov 12 22:20:06 2024
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 10:38 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On 11/11/2024 22:26, rms wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.
    Is there a Steam group...?

      https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA


    Even better apparently I'm, like you, some sort of moderator. Kneel
    before my power mere mortals!


    Joined it. Dunno if I'll post much.
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Tue Nov 19 21:00:04 2024
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote at 00:01 this Friday (GMT):
    On 11/12/2024 2:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 10:38 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On 11/11/2024 22:26, rms wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.
    Is there a Steam group...?

      https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA


    Even better apparently I'm, like you, some sort of moderator. Kneel
    before my power mere mortals!


    Joined it. Dunno if I'll post much.

    No one really posts there, but it's handy for giving out codes without
    giving your email.

    I tried to get some co-op going on a few games but it never happened.


    Fair, definitely a good idea.
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Nov 13 11:05:40 2024
    On 12/11/2024 15:23, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:31:42 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:


    Oh, and we forgot about enhanced additions!

    Personally, I'm holding for the Ultimate Platinum Enhanced Game of the
    Year Remastered Reboot Edition! It comes with a realistic life-sized* maquette of the protagonist!

    ... although that version doesn't come with the actual game, so I'll
    probably have to buy the Gold Edition too. But it will totally be
    worth it!





    Wait... what were we talking about again?

    How many beans you need before it changes from some beans to a very
    small casserole.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Nov 13 11:02:55 2024
    On 11/11/2024 15:54, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 11:15:28 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:


    I actually enjoyed BS:3 far more as my expectations, and price point,
    where much lower. I wouldn't say it was a great game but more than worth
    the £5 I paid for it.

    Bioshock 3 was a generally better experience, even if it did suffer a
    lot from corridor-shooter linearity. (I know it's supposed to be an open-world sandbox, but it's really not). There was less emphasis on environmental traps, the worlds were more open and the combat more
    frenetic. It largely suffered in world design and aesthetics. The
    first "Bioshock" is a better game when it comes to its story and
    visuals; "Bioshock Ultimate" is just more fun to actually play.

    But overall I still think they're both of them fairly average
    shooters, not worth a lot of the hype and praise heaped upon them.


    I enjoyed 3 but it certainly doesn't get anywhere near my PC Classics
    list. It's just a fun romp with a bit of story tacked onto mindless
    violence, what's not to like?

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Nov 13 10:59:30 2024
    On 11/11/2024 15:51, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    The alternative, of course, is to make the traps so obvious and common
    so the enemies/can't/ avoid them because they're all over the place
    (a tactic used by "Dark Crusaders of Might & Magic") but then the
    ridiculous world design destroys any immersion (who lives in a house
    where every floor is covered in oil and every wall covered with
    spikes?)

    I have played Dark Messiah Might and Magic and rather enjoyed it as
    although as you say the environment is rather silly, I presume Dark
    Crusaders is the same, it's not a game that takes itself seriously.

    Are the fight scenes in the film Kingsman realistic, hell no but they
    are fun to watch!

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Wed Nov 13 14:40:04 2024
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 12:03 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 11/11/2024 2:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 16:54 this Sunday (GMT): >>> On 11/9/2024 7:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 00:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    [snip]

    There likely is a difference between how the contracts for both work. >>>>>
    Or Nintendo simply has good lawyers at hand to work the kinks out, while >>>>> Valve just doesn't want to bother.


    Nintendo DEFINITELY has good lawyers.

    House of Mouse level good?


    Well, I don't think Nintendo has rewritten any laws, so not yet.

    well, they famously put King Kong into the public domain (trying to
    defend Donkey Kong)


    Isn't that a good thing?
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Nov 13 08:15:19 2024
    On 11/13/2024 7:30 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 10:59:30 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:


    I have played Dark Messiah Might and Magic and rather enjoyed it as
    although as you say the environment is rather silly, I presume Dark
    Crusaders is the same, it's not a game that takes itself seriously.


    Sorry, you are correct. The game title was of course, "Dark Messiah of
    Might & Magic".

    There was a "Crusaders of Might & Magic" too. I guess the files got crosslinked in my brain ;-)

    To be fair, there were _A LOT_ of Might & Magic games; not including
    ports, expansions/DLC and compilations, I count more than 30 unique
    games in the franchise. It's perhaps forgivable if I get the names a
    bit tangled at times, dontcha think? ;-)

    No, we don't think. ;)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Thu Nov 14 09:48:15 2024
    On 13/11/2024 12:03, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 11/13/2024 12:05 PM, JAB wrote:
    On 12/11/2024 15:23, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:31:42 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:


    Oh, and we forgot about enhanced additions!

    Personally, I'm holding for the Ultimate Platinum Enhanced Game of the
    Year Remastered Reboot Edition! It comes with a realistic life-sized*
    maquette of the protagonist!

    ... although that version doesn't come with the actual game, so I'll
    probably have to buy the Gold Edition too. But it will totally be
    worth it!





    Wait... what were we talking about again?

      How many beans you need before it changes from some beans to a very
    small casserole.

    It depends on exactly how small your dish is.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4IQjUpTNVU

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Wed Nov 20 10:33:47 2024
    On 15/11/2024 00:01, Justisaur wrote:
    On 11/12/2024 2:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 10:38 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On 11/11/2024 22:26, rms wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.
    Is there a Steam group...?

        https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA


    Even better apparently I'm, like you, some sort of moderator. Kneel
    before my power mere mortals!


    Joined it. Dunno if I'll post much.

    No one really posts there, but it's handy for giving out codes without
    giving your email.

    I tried to get some co-op going on a few games but it never happened.


    I like the idea of co-op gaming more than the reality. My game playing
    has definitely changed for more extended sessions to when I feel like it
    and even then probably only averaging thirty minutes (tops an hour)
    before I want to do something else.

    It was something I tried in World of Tanks with platooning but although
    I enjoyed it, it didn't fit with my play four or five battles and then
    do something else. I kinda felt like I was letting my team mates down.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 14 11:40:14 2024
    On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 14:40:04 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:

    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 12:03 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 11/11/2024 2:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 16:54 this Sunday (GMT): >>>> On 11/9/2024 7:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 00:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    [snip]

    There likely is a difference between how the contracts for both work. >>>>>>
    Or Nintendo simply has good lawyers at hand to work the kinks out, while >>>>>> Valve just doesn't want to bother.


    Nintendo DEFINITELY has good lawyers.

    House of Mouse level good?


    Well, I don't think Nintendo has rewritten any laws, so not yet.

    well, they famously put King Kong into the public domain (trying to
    defend Donkey Kong)


    Isn't that a good thing?

    Only accidentally.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Thu Nov 14 19:10:06 2024
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 17:40 this Thursday (GMT):
    On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 14:40:04 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:

    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 12:03 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 11/11/2024 2:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 16:54 this Sunday (GMT): >>>>> On 11/9/2024 7:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 00:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    [snip]

    There likely is a difference between how the contracts for both work. >>>>>>>
    Or Nintendo simply has good lawyers at hand to work the kinks out, while
    Valve just doesn't want to bother.


    Nintendo DEFINITELY has good lawyers.

    House of Mouse level good?


    Well, I don't think Nintendo has rewritten any laws, so not yet.

    well, they famously put King Kong into the public domain (trying to
    defend Donkey Kong)


    Isn't that a good thing?

    Only accidentally.


    Still a positive.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 14 18:21:43 2024
    On 11/14/2024 11:10 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 17:40 this Thursday (GMT):
    On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 14:40:04 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:

    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 12:03 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 11/11/2024 2:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 16:54 this Sunday (GMT):
    On 11/9/2024 7:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 00:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    [snip]

    There likely is a difference between how the contracts for both work. >>>>>>>>
    Or Nintendo simply has good lawyers at hand to work the kinks out, while
    Valve just doesn't want to bother.


    Nintendo DEFINITELY has good lawyers.

    House of Mouse level good?


    Well, I don't think Nintendo has rewritten any laws, so not yet.

    well, they famously put King Kong into the public domain (trying to
    defend Donkey Kong)


    Isn't that a good thing?

    Only accidentally.


    Still a positive.

    Debatable. Copyright actually is a good thing as long as it is neither
    too strong or too weak.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 8 11:15:26 2024
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Nov 8 16:35:17 2024
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

    Me please as shown in here and there. ;)
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Nov 8 16:44:34 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

    Me please as shown in here and there. ;)

    Ooh, I see and got it. Thanks. :D
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Nov 8 18:10:04 2024
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Fri Nov 8 19:47:22 2024
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.

    People actually use the steam group?

    JAB is trying to lure us in! ;)
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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 8 15:26:02 2024
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:10:04 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:

    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    When there are bots scraping codes off the publically available Usenet
    group? I guess so. This is sheer brilliance.

    Those of us who give out codes have been deeply frustrated with the
    situation and do 5HD61 ridicul99FD3ous things toDND24 obfuscate them.

    77777

    NOT A REAL CODE! Suck it scrapers.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Sat Nov 9 02:20:03 2024
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 21:26 this Friday (GMT):
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:10:04 -0000 (UTC), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:

    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 11:15 this Friday (GMT):
    If anyone wants this I've put the code on the Steam group.


    People actually use the steam group?

    When there are bots scraping codes off the publically available Usenet
    group? I guess so. This is sheer brilliance.

    Those of us who give out codes have been deeply frustrated with the
    situation and do 5HD61 ridicul99FD3ous things toDND24 obfuscate them.

    77777

    NOT A REAL CODE! Suck it scrapers.


    Is this reverse psychology and it actually IS a code?
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