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  • Joystick for Apple II Europlus

    From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 4 12:34:03 2025
    Hello!

    Another newbie question. I know practically nothing
    about these Apple II machines, but I have two original
    floppies, Pitfall II and The Heist. Both of these games
    support joystick.

    The guy who owns Apple II Europlus (I intend to buy
    it from him) says that his machine has no Atari-style
    joystick ports and no analog port for Apple-style
    joystick.

    I want to play games using some kind of joystick. What
    do you recommend that I should do? Are there modern
    cards that provide Atari II support for joysticks?

    Thanks for your help!

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Sun May 4 14:30:40 2025
    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    The guy who owns Apple II Europlus (I intend to buy
    it from him) says that his machine has no Atari-style
    joystick ports and no analog port for Apple-style
    joystick.

    The current owner is no expert either. Maybe he is
    wrong? ChatGPT says that Europlus has a 16-pin
    analog joystick connector on the motherboard.

    Who is right in this matter?

    br,
    KK

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  • From Charlie@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Sun May 4 13:01:47 2025
    On 5/4/2025 10:30 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    The guy who owns Apple II Europlus (I intend to buy
    it from him) says that his machine has no Atari-style
    joystick ports and no analog port for Apple-style
    joystick.

    The current owner is no expert either. Maybe he is
    wrong? ChatGPT says that Europlus has a 16-pin
    analog joystick connector on the motherboard.

    Who is right in this matter?

    br,
    KK

    I don't know much about the Apple II Europlus but the Apple II+ has a 16
    pin dip socket on the motherboard that is for an analog joystick or
    paddles. I've owned an Apple II+, an Apple //e and an Apple IIgs. They
    all had that socket on the motherboard so I would think the Europlus
    would also have it. The //e and IIgs also have a game connector on the
    back plane.

    Charlie

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Charlie on Mon May 5 13:25:16 2025
    Charlie <charlieDOTd@vereyezon.net> wrote:
    I don't know much about the Apple II Europlus but the Apple II+ has a 16
    pin dip socket on the motherboard that is for an analog joystick or
    paddles. I've owned an Apple II+, an Apple //e and an Apple IIgs. They
    all had that socket on the motherboard so I would think the Europlus
    would also have it. The //e and IIgs also have a game connector on the
    back plane.

    I just met an Europlus owner on IRC and he confirmed that Europlus
    indeed has a 16-pin game i/o socket on the motherboard. Thanks!

    br,
    KK

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  • From Linards Ticmanis@21:1/5 to Charlie on Mon May 5 16:30:48 2025
    On 2025-May-04 7:01 PM, Charlie wrote:

    I don't know much about the Apple II Europlus but the Apple II+ has a 16
    pin dip socket on the motherboard that is for an analog joystick or
    paddles.

    The Europlus is just a II+ with Rev 7 or RFI Rev mainboard. The only
    changes are a power supply unit that accepts 220V or 240V instead of
    110V, a 14.25 MHz quartz instead of 14.318181... MHz and a few (I think
    five) jumper changes to change the timing of the video output from 60Hz
    to 50Hz.

    All the details (and much more) can be found in the invaluable book "Understanding the Apple II" by Jim Sather, which can be found online as
    a PDF (a long age ago scanned by yours truly...) by asking Google for it.

    --
    Linards Ticmanis

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  • From Michael J. Mahon@21:1/5 to Linards Ticmanis on Wed May 7 07:21:33 2025
    Linards Ticmanis <ticmanis@gmx.de> wrote:
    On 2025-May-04 7:01 PM, Charlie wrote:

    All the details (and much more) can be found in the invaluable book "Understanding the Apple II" by Jim Sather, which can be found online as
    a PDF (a long age ago scanned by yours truly...) by asking Google for it.

    …and thank you, thank you for that great PDF!
    It’s on my phone, and it has saved a lot of wear on my (well-used) paper
    one. ;-)

    --
    -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com

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