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I'm getting my encompasserve renewal notices. I'm getting my
PreciseMail emails. But I can't ssh to encompasserve.org, www.encompasserve.org doesn't respond. Has it just been too long and
I'm forgetting how this works?! (I tried eisner.decus.org and
various other combinations too, with no better luck.)
On 30/8/2024 08:12, Duncan Brown wrote:
I'm getting my encompasserve renewal notices. I'm getting my
PreciseMail emails. But I can't ssh to encompasserve.org,
www.encompasserve.org doesn't respond. Has it just been too long and
I'm forgetting how this works?! (I tried eisner.decus.org and various
other combinations too, with no better luck.)
Duncan
https://eisner.decus.org/online/ssh
I'm getting my encompasserve renewal notices. I'm getting my
PreciseMail emails. But I can't ssh to encompasserve.org, www.encompasserve.org doesn't respond. Has it just been too long and
I'm forgetting how this works?! (I tried eisner.decus.org and various
other combinations too, with no better luck.)
Duncan
I'm getting my encompasserve renewal notices. I'm getting my
PreciseMail emails. But I can't ssh to encompasserve.org, www.encompasserve.org doesn't respond. Has it just been too long and
I'm forgetting how this works?! (I tried eisner.decus.org and various
other combinations too, with no better luck.)
On 2024-08-29 22:42:47 +0000, Duncan Brown said:
I'm getting my encompasserve renewal notices. I'm getting my
PreciseMail emails. But I can't ssh to encompasserve.org,
www.encompasserve.org doesn't respond. Has it just been too long and
I'm forgetting how this works?! (I tried eisner.decus.org and various
other combinations too, with no better luck.)
ssh is refusing to chat.
"ssh: connect to host eisner.decus.org port 22867: Connection refused"
Not sure if the stress should be on the first syllable of "refused"
there, or on the second. 😉
On 2024-08-29 22:42:47 +0000, Duncan Brown said:
I'm getting my encompasserve renewal notices. I'm getting my
PreciseMail emails. But I can't ssh to encompasserve.org,
www.encompasserve.org doesn't respond. Has it just been too long and
I'm forgetting how this works?! (I tried eisner.decus.org and various
other combinations too, with no better luck.)
ssh is refusing to chat.
"ssh: connect to host eisner.decus.org port 22867: Connection refused"
Not sure if the stress should be on the first syllable of "refused"
there, or on the second. 😉
Ah, the port number change was it - thanks!
Hunter Goatley likely needs to reboot the system; Process Software is
now hosting EISNER.
AFAIK, EISNER has been available this entire time (once you use the
correct port). Is anyone (still) having problems connecting?
On 2024-08-30 18:57:12 +0000, Hunter Goatley said:
AFAIK, EISNER has been available this entire time (once you use the correct port). Is anyone (still) having problems connecting?
macOS 13.6.9; Ventura current.
% # default ssh attempt, on the variant port
% ssh -p 22867 -vvv myremoteuser@eisner.decus.org
OpenSSH_9.0p1, LibreSSL 3.3.6
debug1: Reading configuration data /Users/mylocaluser/.ssh/config
debug1: /Users/hoffman/.ssh/config line 20: Applying options for *
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 21: include /etc/ssh/ssh_config.d/* matched no files
debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 54: Applying options for *
debug3: expanded UserKnownHostsFile '~/.ssh/known_hosts' -> '/Users/mylocaluser/.ssh/known_hosts'
debug3: expanded UserKnownHostsFile '~/.ssh/known_hosts2' -> '/Users/mylocaluser/.ssh/known_hosts2'
debug1: Authenticator provider $SSH_SK_PROVIDER did not resolve; disabling debug1: Connecting to eisner.decus.org port 22867.
ssh: connect to host eisner.decus.org port 22867: Connection refused
%
% # ssh with the backward-compatibility options selected:
% ssh -p 22867 -vvv -o HostKeyAlgorithms=ssh-rsa,ssh-dss -o KexAlgorithms=diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 -o Ciphers=aes128-cbc,3des-cbc -o MACs=hmac-md5,hmac-sha1 myremoteuser@eisner.decus.org
OpenSSH_9.0p1, LibreSSL 3.3.6
... [same sequence]
%
% # default connection, but with no certificates used
% ssh -o PubkeyAuthentication=no -o PreferredAuthentications=password -p 22867 myremoteuser@eisner.decus.org
ssh: connect to host eisner.decus.org port 22867: Connection refused
%
% # and this included because "it's always DNS":
% dig +short eisner.decus.org
192.42.95.250
% dig +short @8.8.8.8 eisner.decus.org
192.42.95.250
% dig +short -x 192.42.95.250
eisner.decus.org.
% dig +short @8.8.8.8 -x 192.42.95.250
eisner.decus.org.
%
% # That all seems to be a consistently-referenced IPv4 A record.
%
% # Seems the other decuserve DNS is still tangled with HP/HPE, which is why I've been using the eisner.decus.org name:
% dig +short @8.8.8.8 decuserve.org
15.197.225.128
3.33.251.168
%
I'd initially suspect something has been upgraded within the local macOS 13.6.9 OpenSSH ssh client, and it's again become incompatible with OpenVMS ssh. Still digging.
I don't know if this helps any. I make a successful connection. I
have an older version of Open SSH 8.6p1 vs 9.0p1
For some of my older OpenVMS systems I do have to specify specific algorithms.
Host asimov
HostName asimov.xxxxxxxx.xxx
KexAlgorithms +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
HostKeyAlgorithms +ssh-dss
Ciphers aes128-cbc
But nothing special for eisner
Host eisner
HostName eisner.decus.org
Port 22867
User reinhardt
On 2024-09-05 16:49:00 +0000, John H. Reinhardt said:
I don't know if this helps any. I make a successful connection. I
have an older version of Open SSH 8.6p1 vs 9.0p1
For some of my older OpenVMS systems I do have to specify specific
algorithms.
Host asimov
HostName asimov.xxxxxxxx.xxx
KexAlgorithms +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
HostKeyAlgorithms +ssh-dss
Ciphers aes128-cbc
But nothing special for eisner
Host eisner
HostName eisner.decus.org
Port 22867
User reinhardt
Yeah; my ~/.ssh/config was a little more complex than yours. The ssh connection was still refused after temporarily nerfing all that.
On Thu, 2024-08-29 at 19:01 -0400, Robert A. Brooks wrote:
Hunter Goatley likely needs to reboot the system; Process Software is
now hosting EISNER.
BLASPHEMY!
Isn't it enough to restart SSHD?
On 8/29/2024 7:01 PM, Robert A. Brooks wrote:
On 8/29/2024 6:42 PM, Duncan Brown wrote:
I'm getting my encompasserve renewal notices. I'm getting my
PreciseMail emails. But I can't ssh to encompasserve.org,
www.encompasserve.org doesn't respond. Has it just been too long and
I'm forgetting how this works?! (I tried eisner.decus.org and
various other combinations too, with no better luck.)
SSH goes sideways sometimes.
Hunter Goatley likely needs to reboot the system; Process Software is now
hosting EISNER.
Reboot VMS????
bill
On 8/30/2024 11:05 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
On 8/29/2024 8:50 PM, bill wrote:
On 8/29/2024 7:01 PM, Robert A. Brooks wrote:
Hunter Goatley likely needs to reboot the system; Process Software
is now
hosting EISNER.
Reboot VMS????
Perhaps just re-boot SSH ?
So which is the OS? VMS or SSH? Can't "re-boot" an application.
I don't know if it's the TCP/IP stack in use, or the applications
running on top of that stack, or something else, but a VMS system
with full exposure to the wider internet does not appear to be a
robust system.
In the meantime, I just stopped trying to filter the bad IPs, and the
system has been running fine for weeks now. (I did reboot it 11 days
ago, but that was to reboot the underlying host system.)
On 8/30/2024 1:05 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 8/30/2024 12:48 PM, bill wrote:
On 8/30/2024 11:05 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
On 8/29/2024 8:50 PM, bill wrote:
On 8/29/2024 7:01 PM, Robert A. Brooks wrote:
Hunter Goatley likely needs to reboot the system; Process Software >>>>>> is now
hosting EISNER.
Reboot VMS????
Perhaps just re-boot SSH ?
So which is the OS? VMS or SSH? Can't "re-boot" an application.
Re-start the application.
1: That's not what Dave said.
I don't know if this helps any. I make a successful connection. I have an older version of Open SSH 8.6p1 vs 9.0p1
For some of my older OpenVMS systems I do have to specify specific algorithms.