• Re: Mike Lynch not guilty of defrauding HP

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 29 13:09:00 2024
    On 6/12/2024 1:36 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    On 6/12/2024 1:24 PM, Robert A. Brooks wrote:
    On 6/12/2024 8:34 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
    [This happened several days ago, so I am surprised to see nobody has
    mentioned it yet.]

    The criminal trial of Mike Lynch of Autonomy, which saw him extradited
    from the UK against his will, has ended in disaster for HP, as he has
    been found not guilty of all charges.

    https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/06/mike_lynch_cleared/

    I wonder if this is going to have any implications for today's HP.

    If anything, I'd expect it would affect HPE, not HP, Inc.

    However, given that HP(E) took a massive writeoff for the Autonomy fiasco
    awhile ago, I suspect it'll have a tiny impact, if at all.

    I don't think there will be any impact.

    According to the article there has been 3 separate trials.

    Civil fraud case in the UK. HPE won and they are currently
    fighting over the compensation amount. HPE wants 4 B$.

    Criminal case against Autonomy CFO in the US. He was
    convicted and served 5 years.

    Criminal case against Autonomy CEO in the US. He has now
    been acquitted. His defense seems to have focused on that
    he was involved in product development and product sales
    but not in financial reports.

    HPE is probably only interested in the civil case and
    the compensation amount.

    And now Mike Lynch is dead and HPE need to decide
    whether to go after the estate (and grieving widow)
    for the 4 B$.

    https://fortune.com/europe/2024/08/27/hp-dilemma-mike-lynch-family-4-billion-claim/

    Arne

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  • From Simon Clubley@21:1/5 to arne@vajhoej.dk on Thu Aug 29 18:08:46 2024
    On 2024-08-29, Arne Vajh°j <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:

    And now Mike Lynch is dead and HPE need to decide
    whether to go after the estate (and grieving widow)
    for the 4 B$.

    https://fortune.com/europe/2024/08/27/hp-dilemma-mike-lynch-family-4-billion-claim/

    Arne

    IMHO, that would be an incredibly stupid thing for HPE to do and
    will likely result in a massive backlash, especially here in the UK.

    When he was acquitted in the US, a common view here in the UK was
    that he had been wrongly sent to the US by our previous government
    and that an innocent man had prevailed against the US government.

    In addition to this, there is now also a lot of additional sympathy
    for him and the other people lost on the yacht especially since stories
    have emerged that there should have been enough time to save them if
    the yacht had been secured properly and the crew had done certain things.

    Of course, we don't know the truth of those stories until Italy has
    completed its investigation, but that is most certainly a currently
    common feeling in the UK, especially since Italy now has multiple
    crew members under investigation.

    Simon.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?=@21:1/5 to Simon Clubley on Thu Aug 29 14:37:44 2024
    On 8/29/2024 2:08 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
    On 2024-08-29, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
    And now Mike Lynch is dead and HPE need to decide
    whether to go after the estate (and grieving widow)
    for the 4 B$.

    https://fortune.com/europe/2024/08/27/hp-dilemma-mike-lynch-family-4-billion-claim/

    IMHO, that would be an incredibly stupid thing for HPE to do and
    will likely result in a massive backlash, especially here in the UK.

    When he was acquitted in the US, a common view here in the UK was
    that he had been wrongly sent to the US by our previous government
    and that an innocent man had prevailed against the US government.

    In addition to this, there is now also a lot of additional sympathy
    for him and the other people lost on the yacht especially since stories
    have emerged that there should have been enough time to save them if
    the yacht had been secured properly and the crew had done certain things.

    Of course, we don't know the truth of those stories until Italy has
    completed its investigation, but that is most certainly a currently
    common feeling in the UK, especially since Italy now has multiple
    crew members under investigation.

    It will sure be bad PR.

    But 4 B$ is a lot of money.

    On the other side if various reports are correct then
    he was only 1 B$ worth when he died.

    So the real number is:

    1 B$ - gigantic legal cost - monetary value of serious bad PR in UK

    They could decide to close the case and move on.

    Arne

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org- on Fri Aug 30 00:00:45 2024
    Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
    IMHO, that would be an incredibly stupid thing for HPE to do and
    will likely result in a massive backlash, especially here in the UK.

    This is true, but HPE has a long history of doing incredibly stupid
    things that have caused massive backlashes.
    --scott


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