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On 8/9/2024 3:16 PM, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
On Fri, 2024-08-09 at 14:40 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 8/9/2024 2:28 PM, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
This might be a stupid question, but is it possible to package
up things like compilers on an existing system to upgrade
another system?
What would your package provide that the PCSI/VMSINSTAL kit does
not provide?
Oh, it's about the vmdk images that VSI sent out. I already have a
working system that I got under their previous hobbyist programme,
jsut wondered if it was possible to update my existing system by repackaging stuff from the vmdk image and upgrading my system.
From the vmdk? Probably not. A compiler install updates the CLD,
the HELP, and puts various files on the system (compiler, message
files, startup files, release notes, maybe RTLs), etc. In
particular, the CLD isn't just sitting around for all products. I
would guess that VERB could extract it however? But you don't know
the exact list of things to move/apply. That is all inside the PCSI/VMSINSTAL kit.
That's a pain but workable. But I just wish they'd reinstate the
hobbyist programme. Some of us can find issues and report them
quickly.
Have you thought of applying for Ambassador status?
On 8/9/2024 2:28 PM, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
This might be a stupid question, but is it possible to package up
things like compilers on an existing system to upgrade another system?
What would your package provide that the PCSI/VMSINSTAL kit does
not provide?
On Fri, 2024-08-09 at 15:28 -0400, John Reagan wrote:
On 8/9/2024 3:16 PM, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
On Fri, 2024-08-09 at 14:40 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 8/9/2024 2:28 PM, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
This might be a stupid question, but is it possible to package
up things like compilers on an existing system to upgrade
another system?
What would your package provide that the PCSI/VMSINSTAL kit does
not provide?
Oh, it's about the vmdk images that VSI sent out. I already have a
working system that I got under their previous hobbyist programme,
jsut wondered if it was possible to update my existing system by
repackaging stuff from the vmdk image and upgrading my system.
From the vmdk? Probably not. A compiler install updates the CLD,
the HELP, and puts various files on the system (compiler, message
files, startup files, release notes, maybe RTLs), etc. In
particular, the CLD isn't just sitting around for all products. I
would guess that VERB could extract it however? But you don't know
the exact list of things to move/apply. That is all inside the
PCSI/VMSINSTAL kit.
I did suspect that might be the case. Oh well.
Maybe I can move my data off the system onto its own disk image and
then attach it to the vmdk image. Of course, I would need to configure
the vmdk image with its hostname and other things to make it useable
first.
Then every year I can just replace my vmdk with their latest that they release, configure it and then attach my existing disk image.
That's a pain but workable. But I just wish they'd reinstate the
hobbyist programme. Some of us can find issues and report them quickly.
In theory, if one knew the locations of *all* of the pieces, one could reverse engineer an older kit and build a new one like it with the new
images and data from an installation. But there are a lot of things
that could go wrong, depending on what changed between versions.
On Fri, 2024-08-09 at 22:49 +0100, Chris Townley wrote:
That's a pain but workable. But I just wish they'd reinstate the
hobbyist programme. Some of us can find issues and report them
quickly.
Have you thought of applying for Ambassador status?
I did, a few months ago. Since the initial reply back, nothing.