• So Long

    From Jilly@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 11 16:04:33 2024
    Folks,

    On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire. I started this journey in 1979, hired by Digital's Upgrade Training Program in CXO to learn electronics and started working on the RM02/03 manufacturing line. From there I went to NYC Field Service and in 1989 I met John Hockett at a CSC Road Show interview. In May I was working on the VMS Internals and Performance team in CX03, hugely lucky in getting Mark Morris as a cube mate. John & Mark were primarily responsible for my progression in VMS Support. In 1992 I started
    WFH and have been at home in Waverly, NY since 1994. I have worked with a number of highly talented people in the VMS ecosystem and am very grateful for all the collaborations I received over the years.

    My plans are to travel for family events, play more golf, do more racing
    travel but most of all, play more poker.

    I wish VSI all the best for the future of VMS.

    Have a safe & happy holiday.

    Jilly

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  • From Simon Clubley@21:1/5 to Jilly on Thu Dec 12 13:24:30 2024
    On 2024-12-11, Jilly <jilly@stny.rr.com> wrote:
    Folks,

    On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire. I started this
    journey in 1979, hired by Digital's Upgrade Training Program in CXO to learn electronics and started working on the RM02/03 manufacturing line. From there
    I went to NYC Field Service and in 1989 I met John Hockett at a CSC Road Show interview. In May I was working on the VMS Internals and Performance team in CX03, hugely lucky in getting Mark Morris as a cube mate. John & Mark were primarily responsible for my progression in VMS Support. In 1992 I started WFH and have been at home in Waverly, NY since 1994. I have worked with a number of highly talented people in the VMS ecosystem and am very grateful for
    all the collaborations I received over the years.

    My plans are to travel for family events, play more golf, do more racing travel but most of all, play more poker.

    I wish VSI all the best for the future of VMS.

    Have a safe & happy holiday.


    Congratulations on your retirement and best wishes for your future.

    It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.

    Simon.

    PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
    like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
    because there's no point. :-)

    --
    Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
    Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?=@21:1/5 to Simon Clubley on Thu Dec 12 10:13:15 2024
    On 12/12/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
    It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.

    A lot of well known names from c.o.v/I-V are no longer seen.

    Mark Berryman, Hunter Goatley, Brian Schenkenberg, David Jones and
    Robert Gezelter still drop by occasionally.

    David Cathey and Nick de Smith are seen elsewhere.

    Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
    Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
    Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
    Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
    for many years. Probably many of them have retired.

    Arne

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  • From John H. Reinhardt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 12 22:13:51 2024
    On 12/12/2024 9:13 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    On 12/12/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
    It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.

    A lot of well known names from c.o.v/I-V are no longer seen.

    Mark Berryman, Hunter Goatley, Brian Schenkenberg, David Jones and
    Robert Gezelter still drop by occasionally.

    David Cathey and Nick de Smith are seen elsewhere.

    Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
    Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
    Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
    Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
    for many years. Probably many of them have retired.

    Arne



    Terry Kennedy is now Terri Kennedy and can be seen quite often on the VCF DEC Forum and on Oscar Vermeulen's PiDP-11 and PiDP-10 Google groups. I had contact with Glenn Everhart back in May 2021 when I got a copy of his DECUS files but I have not spoken
    with him since.

    --
    John H. Reinhardt

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  • From David Goodwin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 14 12:01:09 2024
    In article <ls1qjvF3c0nU1@mid.individual.net>,
    johnhreinhardt@thereinhardts.org says...

    On 12/12/2024 9:13 AM, Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    On 12/12/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
    It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.

    A lot of well known names from c.o.v/I-V are no longer seen.

    Mark Berryman, Hunter Goatley, Brian Schenkenberg, David Jones and
    Robert Gezelter still drop by occasionally.

    David Cathey and Nick de Smith are seen elsewhere.

    Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
    Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
    Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
    Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
    for many years. Probably many of them have retired.

    Arne



    Terry Kennedy is now Terri Kennedy and can be seen quite often on the VCF DEC Forum and on Oscar Vermeulen's PiDP-11 and PiDP-10 Google groups. I had contact with Glenn Everhart back in May 2021 when I got a copy of his DECUS files but I have not
    spoken with him since.


    Based on their post on the VCF forum it appears the end of the hobbyist/community license program may have impacted their ongoing use
    of OpenVMS

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  • From Subcommandante XDelta@21:1/5 to david+usenet@zx.net.nz on Sun Dec 15 00:09:55 2024
    On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:01:09 +1300, David Goodwin
    <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> wrote:

    In article <ls1qjvF3c0nU1@mid.individual.net>, >johnhreinhardt@thereinhardts.org says...

    On 12/12/2024 9:13 AM, Arne Vajh°j wrote:
    On 12/12/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
    It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.

    A lot of well known names from c.o.v/I-V are no longer seen.

    Mark Berryman, Hunter Goatley, Brian Schenkenberg, David Jones and
    Robert Gezelter still drop by occasionally.

    David Cathey and Nick de Smith are seen elsewhere.

    Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
    Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
    Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
    Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
    for many years. Probably many of them have retired.

    Arne



    Terry Kennedy is now Terri Kennedy and can be seen quite often on the VCF DEC Forum and on Oscar Vermeulen's PiDP-11 and PiDP-10 Google groups. I had contact with Glenn Everhart back in May 2021 when I got a copy of his DECUS files but I have not
    spoken with him since.


    Based on their post on the VCF forum it appears the end of the >hobbyist/community license program may have impacted their ongoing use
    of OpenVMS

    :-(

    VAX/VMS and AXP/VMS hobbyists and O.G. old-timers, can continue unto
    the end of time.

    It would be sagacious and generally beneficial, if VSI changed their
    spots, mended their ways, resaw the light, and reimplemented a
    classical VSI/VMS hobbyist program, for the maintenance and
    development of VMS mindshare - particularly in the under 60's cohort!

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  • From Subcommandante XDelta@21:1/5 to clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org- on Sun Dec 15 00:10:54 2024
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:

    On 2024-12-11, Jilly <jilly@stny.rr.com> wrote:
    Folks,

    On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire. I started this
    journey in 1979, hired by Digital's Upgrade Training Program in CXO to learn >> electronics and started working on the RM02/03 manufacturing line. From there
    I went to NYC Field Service and in 1989 I met John Hockett at a CSC Road Show
    interview. In May I was working on the VMS Internals and Performance team in >> CX03, hugely lucky in getting Mark Morris as a cube mate. John & Mark were >> primarily responsible for my progression in VMS Support. In 1992 I started >> WFH and have been at home in Waverly, NY since 1994. I have worked with a
    number of highly talented people in the VMS ecosystem and am very grateful for
    all the collaborations I received over the years.

    My plans are to travel for family events, play more golf, do more racing
    travel but most of all, play more poker.

    I wish VSI all the best for the future of VMS.

    Have a safe & happy holiday.


    Congratulations on your retirement and best wishes for your future.

    It does seem like all the well-known names are gradually disappearing however.

    Simon.

    PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
    like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
    because there's no point. :-)

    Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)

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  • From Tom Wade@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 14 14:21:15 2024
    Hi Jilly,

    On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire.

    Best wishes on your retirement, and may all your page faults be soft !


    --
    Tom Wade
    tom dot wade at tomwade dot eu

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  • From Hunter Goatley@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 14 13:04:06 2024
    On 12/12/2024 10:13 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:

    Glenn Everhart, Terry Kennedy, Patrick Moreau, Bruce Tanner,
    Ehud Gavron, Jamie Hanrahan, Jerry Leichter, Foteos Macrides,
    Matthew Madison, Joe Meadows, Wolfgang Moeller, Pat Rankin,
    Wayne Sewell, Don Stokes etc. I have not seen anything from
    for many years. Probably many of them have retired.

    Sadly, Jamie and Jerry travelled Beyond the Rim years ago.

    Hunter

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  • From Chris Townley@21:1/5 to Simon Clubley on Mon Dec 16 13:41:08 2024
    On 16/12/2024 13:24, Simon Clubley wrote:
    On 2024-12-14, Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
    <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:

    PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
    like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
    because there's no point. :-)

    Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)

    $ set response/mode=good_natured

    Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
    called Denmark. :-)

    Simon.

    A Great Dane perhaps?

    --
    Chris

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  • From Simon Clubley@21:1/5 to Subcommandante XDelta on Mon Dec 16 13:24:37 2024
    On 2024-12-14, Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
    <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:

    PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone
    like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more >>because there's no point. :-)

    Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)

    $ set response/mode=good_natured

    Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
    called Denmark. :-)

    Simon.

    --
    Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
    Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.

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  • From Subcommandante XDelta@21:1/5 to clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org- on Wed Dec 18 00:11:28 2024
    On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:24:37 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:

    On 2024-12-14, Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley >><clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:

    PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone >>>like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more >>>because there's no point. :-)

    Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)

    $ set response/mode=good_natured

    Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
    called Denmark. :-)

    Simon.

    Those Danes get sround. :-)

    https://englandsnortheast.co.uk/jorvik-viking-northumbria/

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?=@21:1/5 to Subcommandante XDelta on Tue Dec 17 14:07:08 2024
    On 12/17/2024 8:11 AM, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:24:37 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
    On 2024-12-14, Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
    <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
    PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when someone >>>> like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more
    because there's no point. :-)

    Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)

    $ set response/mode=good_natured

    Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
    called Denmark. :-)

    Those Danes get sround. :-)

    The vikings traveled far:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings#/media/File:Vikings-Voyages.png

    https://englandsnortheast.co.uk/jorvik-viking-northumbria/

    It was even bigger under Cnut the Great 1028-1035:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_Empire#/media/File:Cnut_lands.svg

    Arne

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  • From Jim Duff@21:1/5 to Jilly on Wed Dec 18 09:24:37 2024
    On 12/12/24 03:04, Jilly wrote:
    Folks,

    On Friday the time will come to close up my system and retire. I started this
    journey in 1979, hired by Digital's Upgrade Training Program in CXO to learn electronics and started working on the RM02/03 manufacturing line. From there
    I went to NYC Field Service and in 1989 I met John Hockett at a CSC Road Show interview. In May I was working on the VMS Internals and Performance team in CX03, hugely lucky in getting Mark Morris as a cube mate. John & Mark were primarily responsible for my progression in VMS Support. In 1992 I started WFH and have been at home in Waverly, NY since 1994. I have worked with a number of highly talented people in the VMS ecosystem and am very grateful for
    all the collaborations I received over the years.

    My plans are to travel for family events, play more golf, do more racing travel but most of all, play more poker.

    I wish VSI all the best for the future of VMS.

    Have a safe & happy holiday.

    Jilly

    Congratulations on your retirement!

    If I recall, the last bug you and I uncovered was this little beauty...

    https://www.eight-cubed.com/blog/archives/001285.html https://www.eight-cubed.com/blog/archives/001289.html

    Which turned out to be an issue with the port of an MACRO-32 module to C
    back in the VAX to Alpha port. If I remember correctly, the problem was
    the port had failed to include a memory barrier in the C code which was
    implied in the MACRO-32, and the bug hid for over 30 years until an IA64
    doing *lots* of directory renames on the same disk in parallel uncovered it.

    Fun times :)
    Jim
    --
    eight-cubed.com

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  • From Dan Cross@21:1/5 to bill.gunshannon@gmail.com on Tue Dec 17 22:49:39 2024
    In article <lse77iFpva2U1@mid.individual.net>,
    bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> wrote:
    Well, they made it at least as far as what is now Minnesota on North
    America. That's 1400 miles overland.

    Those were not vikings. Those were scandinavian immigrants that
    came to North America long after the end of the Viking Age,
    though granted many of them were probably descended from
    vikings.

    - Dan C.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 17 19:26:29 2024
    On 12/17/2024 7:20 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    On 12/17/2024 4:02 PM, bill wrote:
    On 12/17/2024 2:07 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    On 12/17/2024 8:11 AM, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:24:37 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
    <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
    On 2024-12-14, Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
    <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
    PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when
    someone
    like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any >>>>>>> more
    because there's no point. :-)

    Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)

    $ set response/mode=good_natured

    Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country >>>>> called Denmark. :-)

    Those Danes get sround. :-)

    The vikings traveled far:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings#/media/File:Vikings-Voyages.png

    Well, they made it at least as far as what is now Minnesota on North
    America.  That's 1400 miles overland.

    The scientific consensus is that the Kensington Runestone is a
    forgery and that the vikings did not get to Minnesota.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone

    But it is a good story. And I suppose people in Minnesota
    like the story. And besides "When the legend becomes fact,
    print the legend". :-)

    And:

    https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms/c/erOAAq0b79U/m/7z7ZkgZJAAAJ

    Arne

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?=@21:1/5 to bill on Tue Dec 17 19:20:11 2024
    On 12/17/2024 4:02 PM, bill wrote:
    On 12/17/2024 2:07 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    On 12/17/2024 8:11 AM, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:24:37 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
    <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
    On 2024-12-14, Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:24:30 -0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley
    <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
    PS: We know the VMS ecosystem will be well and truly dead when
    someone
    like Arne comes along and says he's not updating his website any more >>>>>> because there's no point. :-)

    Arne will be the last Yorkshireman standing. :-)

    $ set response/mode=good_natured

    Arne is not from God's Own County. He is from a rather boring country
    called Denmark. :-)

    Those Danes get sround. :-)

    The vikings traveled far:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings#/media/File:Vikings-Voyages.png

    Well, they made it at least as far as what is now Minnesota on North America.  That's 1400 miles overland.

    The scientific consensus is that the Kensington Runestone is a
    forgery and that the vikings did not get to Minnesota.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone

    But it is a good story. And I suppose people in Minnesota
    like the story. And besides "When the legend becomes fact,
    print the legend". :-)

    Arne

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