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I frequently still glance thru my copies of the PDP-11 and VAX
Software Sourcebooks. Are there still people offering software
for VMS or is it pretty much all in-house developed applications?
On 11/26/2024 8:23 PM, bill wrote:
I frequently still glance thru my copies of the PDP-11 and VAX
Software Sourcebooks.á Are there still people offering software
for VMS or is it pretty much all in-house developed applications?
Yes.
Some of the more well known names are:
Oracle - Rdb
Mimer - Mimer SQL
Synergex - DBL
Broadcom (CA) - management stuff
SoftwareAG (ConnX) - connectivity
GrayMatter - print
Process - networking
VSI has a list of partners:
https://vmssoftware.com/about/partners/
I read your question as if you were interested in commercial
software.
On top of the commercial software there are a bunch of open
source available that either:
* is intended to run on VMS by original author
* run on VMS because someone has added the necessary
VMS pieces
* accidentally run on VMS without anything VMS specific
The list is obvious much much shorter than the list from the
mid 80's. Probably like 1-2%.
On 2024-11-26, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
On 11/26/2024 8:23 PM, bill wrote:
I frequently still glance thru my copies of the PDP-11 and VAX
Software Sourcebooks. Are there still people offering software
for VMS or is it pretty much all in-house developed applications?
Yes.
Some of the more well known names are:
Oracle - Rdb
What is the status of this for x86-64 VMS ?
https://www.synergex.com/platforms/Mimer - Mimer SQL
Synergex - DBL
Last time I saw this being discussed, that had not happened yet for x86-64 and it was unclear if it will.
Has there been a further update since then ?
There's nothing other than Alpha/IA64 on
Broadcom (CA) - management stuff
SoftwareAG (ConnX) - connectivity
GrayMatter - print
Process - networking
VSI has a list of partners:
https://vmssoftware.com/about/partners/
The list is obvious much much shorter than the list from the
mid 80's. Probably like 1-2%.
As high as that ? Would it be more accurate to say that value is still
too high by an order of magnitude ?
On 11/27/2024 8:53 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 11/27/2024 8:14 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-11-26, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
On 11/26/2024 8:23 PM, bill wrote:
I frequently still glance thru my copies of the PDP-11 and VAX
Software Sourcebooks. Are there still people offering software
for VMS or is it pretty much all in-house developed applications?
Yes.
Some of the more well known names are:
Oracle - Rdb
What is the status of this for x86-64 VMS ?
We are still waiting for the x86-64 version.
Kevin Duffy presented at the boot camp last month.
I don't remember the exact dates, but I *think* that the beta test
begins some time in the 2nd half of 2025.
His presentation is available off the vmssoftware.com website.
On 11/27/2024 8:14 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-11-26, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
On 11/26/2024 8:23 PM, bill wrote:
I frequently still glance thru my copies of the PDP-11 and VAX
Software Sourcebooks. Are there still people offering software
for VMS or is it pretty much all in-house developed applications?
Yes.
Some of the more well known names are:
Oracle - Rdb
What is the status of this for x86-64 VMS ?
We are still waiting for the x86-64 version.
On 11/27/2024 8:14 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-11-26, Arne Vajh°j <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
Synergex - DBL
Last time I saw this being discussed, that had not happened yet for x86-64 >> and it was unclear if it will.
Has there been a further update since then ?
There's nothing other than Alpha/IA64 onhttps://www.synergex.com/platforms/
I have not heard anything new on that.
So they may fall off the list in 10 years. Or they may not.
I read Bill's question is being for today.
Most interesting that they insist on Oracle Linux KVM
as VM!!
On 2024-11-27, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
Most interesting that they insist on Oracle Linux KVM
as VM!!
I've been looking at Oracle Linux. They are certainly very up to date
with their patches (at least so far) and there are arguments for using
Oracle Linux instead of one of the other rebuilds (Alma, Rocky) given
the size of the massive organisation behind it and the fact, as per
above, they are recommending it for use by some of their customers.
Simon.
Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
On 2024-11-27, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
Most interesting that they insist on Oracle Linux KVM
as VM!!
I've been looking at Oracle Linux. They are certainly very up to date
with their patches (at least so far) and there are arguments for using
Oracle Linux instead of one of the other rebuilds (Alma, Rocky) given
the size of the massive organisation behind it and the fact, as per
above, they are recommending it for use by some of their customers.
I'd been kind of wondering about the Oracle/VSI relationship. My guess
is Oracle Cloud might be one of the most obvious places for Oracle Rdb
users to land eventually.