• ISO of a linux animalware / antivirus scanner

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 26 23:50:34 2024
    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?
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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Doctor on Tue Aug 27 00:36:58 2024
    On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 23:50:34 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
    Doctor) wrote in <vaj4ca$157e$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>:

    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    If only there were a worldwide database where one could ask
    about this... /s

    Seriously though, are you cool with clamav? Boot an ubuntu
    live distro, sudo apt install clamtk, then run clamtk.

    You might have to pull up the file manager to get your windows
    partition mounted, then scan the mount directory recursively.

    But if you suspect the virus is in the SMI for the processor, not
    sure if there's anything you can do about that.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to vallor@cultnix.org on Tue Aug 27 02:50:56 2024
    In article <lj4ldaFasmaU8@mid.individual.net>,
    vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 23:50:34 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The >Doctor) wrote in <vaj4ca$157e$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>:

    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    If only there were a worldwide database where one could ask
    about this... /s

    Seriously though, are you cool with clamav? Boot an ubuntu
    live distro, sudo apt install clamtk, then run clamtk.

    You might have to pull up the file manager to get your windows
    partition mounted, then scan the mount directory recursively.

    But if you suspect the virus is in the SMI for the processor, not
    sure if there's anything you can do about that.


    What about a debian or kali live distro?

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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Aug 27 04:49:13 2024
    On 8/26/24 10:50 PM, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <lj4ldaFasmaU8@mid.individual.net>,
    vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 23:50:34 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
    Doctor) wrote in <vaj4ca$157e$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>:

    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    If only there were a worldwide database where one could ask
    about this... /s

    Seriously though, are you cool with clamav? Boot an ubuntu
    live distro, sudo apt install clamtk, then run clamtk.

    You might have to pull up the file manager to get your windows
    partition mounted, then scan the mount directory recursively.

    But if you suspect the virus is in the SMI for the processor, not
    sure if there's anything you can do about that.


    What about a debian or kali live distro?

    I *think* he's worried about BUILT-IN spyware - actually
    part of the BIOS or On-Chip ........

    Clam isn't gonna find that.

    I wouldn't put it PAST Intel or some PC maker to
    do such. User-mining PAYS BIG apparently. Some
    big-name PCs you buy came with whole suites of
    "helpful" utilities added which, really, are
    naught but spyware. Hell, there was a whole
    series of Samsung TVs ... if you enabled net
    access it kept phoning home ....

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Aug 27 12:11:09 2024
    On 2024-08-27 01:50, The Doctor wrote:
    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    You need to ask in a Windows group.

    If you want to use clamav, you can do that with any linux distro of your
    liking in which you install clamav.

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  • From Julius Bernotas@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Aug 27 15:05:20 2024
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:

    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    Could you clarify what problem you are facing? You have a machine
    that you suspect being infected by malware. And you are uncomfortable
    with using it. Do I understand it correctly? Why are you feeling
    uncomfortable using an infected machine? Or is the problem
    another one: You are trying check your machine for malware
    to have the assurance to use a machine that is not infected
    by any malware. This problem has an easy solution:
    Don't use your own machine. Use your employer's machine.
    Your employer's IT department will take care that your
    machine is being checked for malware regularly and will
    do so by following best practice in IT. And you don't have to worry.

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Aug 27 11:59:07 2024
    On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 23:50:34 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
    (The Doctor) wrote:

    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    Kaspersky Rescue Disk. Unplug your network card before booting
    with it, it connects to "search for updates".
    Scans Windows and Linux.
    I don't think it does hardware-embedded malware though.
    []'s

    PS a full scan will take all night....

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to gaussianblue@tilde.pink on Tue Aug 27 22:03:09 2024
    In article <lj689gFkevjU1@mid.dfncis.de>,
    Julius Bernotas <gaussianblue@tilde.pink> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:

    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    Could you clarify what problem you are facing? You have a machine
    that you suspect being infected by malware. And you are uncomfortable
    with using it. Do I understand it correctly? Why are you feeling >uncomfortable using an infected machine? Or is the problem
    another one: You are trying check your machine for malware
    to have the assurance to use a machine that is not infected
    by any malware. This problem has an easy solution:
    Don't use your own machine. Use your employer's machine.
    Your employer's IT department will take care that your
    machine is being checked for malware regularly and will
    do so by following best practice in IT. And you don't have to worry.


    Firmware upgrade does not go through.


    Drive not expand to use full capacity .


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Sh@dow.br on Tue Aug 27 22:02:17 2024
    In article <40qrcjll8ifi3souqnukq23j939u869lvq@4ax.com>,
    Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 23:50:34 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
    (The Doctor) wrote:

    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    Kaspersky Rescue Disk. Unplug your network card before booting
    with it, it connects to "search for updates".
    Scans Windows and Linux.
    I don't think it does hardware-embedded malware though.
    []'s

    PS a full scan will take all night....


    Kaspersky banned in NA!

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Aug 27 15:40:21 2024
    On 8/26/24 16:50, The Doctor wrote:
    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    Well it is known that the Intels have a Minix fork
    embedded to send data back to the factory. I think that
    the data with which they are concerned relates to CPU
    functions not with your Personal data. Windows and MS
    use Windows for personal data collection.

    Only thing I can suggest to excape these matters
    is to go to an AMD Ryzen motherboard.
    I see that you are worried about the full use
    of your hard drive and that must be enabled in the BIOS
    or not. I suggest that that you remove Windows as soon
    as you find a Linux Distribution with which you are
    satisfied, in that it run from a Live Iso file aand
    detects all your hardware.

    If you did not think it was embedded I would
    say to download Knoppix ISO file and use its Clam AntiVirus
    software.

    Good luck.

    bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.06- Linux 6.6.47-Plasma 5.27.11

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Aug 27 21:11:44 2024
    On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 22:02:17 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
    (The Doctor) wrote:

    In article <40qrcjll8ifi3souqnukq23j939u869lvq@4ax.com>,
    Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 23:50:34 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
    (The Doctor) wrote:

    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    Kaspersky Rescue Disk. Unplug your network card before booting
    with it, it connects to "search for updates".
    Scans Windows and Linux.
    I don't think it does hardware-embedded malware though.
    []'s

    PS a full scan will take all night....


    Kaspersky banned in NA!

    Only if you are the government.
    Can't stop civilians from downloading and using it.
    It's a free country, right?

    Maybe not.... all download links are being blocked. LOL.
    []'s
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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to MarioCCCP on Tue Sep 3 13:25:11 2024
    On 2024-09-01 04:02, MarioCCCP wrote:
    On 27/08/24 12:11, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-08-27 01:50, The Doctor wrote:
    I suspect a Windows OS with an Intel MB
    have malware embedded in them.

    Are there are Linux ISOs I can use to test my theory?

    You need to ask in a Windows group.

    If you want to use clamav, you can do that with any linux distro of
    your liking in which you install clamav.


    I have it (and possibly, I have forgot !, running it), but I ignore how valuable this antivirus is, since it is since 2017 that I have give up following benchmarks of AVs, detections ratings and so.
    So I ask : how good is it this clamav ?

    Better read here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClamAV

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Thu Aug 29 08:49:32 2024
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    Well it is known that the Intels have a Minix fork
    embedded to send data back to the factory. I think that
    the data with which they are concerned relates to CPU
    functions not with your Personal data.

    Yes, the general functions of these processors in modern CPUs are
    described in detail here:

    https://www.devever.net/~hl/backstage-cast

    The privacy issue is that they can have the capacity to access data
    in RAM, then since their firmware is closed-source one can't be
    sure it doesn't collect personal data and send it back somehow. Or
    it's been shown they can be hacked to do that and then snoop out
    passwords etc. from RAM, which perhaps is what the OP's concerned
    about.

    Only thing I can suggest to excape these matters
    is to go to an AMD Ryzen motherboard.

    No, AMD Ryzen has it's own equivalent commonly called PSP, and it's
    had documented security vulnerabilities too:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Secure_Technology#Reported_vulnerabilities

    Your only real escape would be to run a CPU that's so old or
    low-spec that you wouldn't have the performance to run a modern
    web browser with Javascript support. Of course those web browsers
    are where people generally enter information worth snooping on now,
    so there's no real escape anymore.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Computer Nerd Kev on Sat Aug 31 03:45:08 2024
    On 2024-08-29 00:49, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    Well it is known that the Intels have a Minix fork
    embedded to send data back to the factory. I think that
    the data with which they are concerned relates to CPU
    functions not with your Personal data.

    Yes, the general functions of these processors in modern CPUs are
    described in detail here:

    https://www.devever.net/~hl/backstage-cast

    The privacy issue is that they can have the capacity to access data
    in RAM, then since their firmware is closed-source one can't be
    sure it doesn't collect personal data and send it back somehow. Or
    it's been shown they can be hacked to do that and then snoop out
    passwords etc. from RAM, which perhaps is what the OP's concerned
    about.

    Only thing I can suggest to excape these matters
    is to go to an AMD Ryzen motherboard.

    No, AMD Ryzen has it's own equivalent commonly called PSP, and it's
    had documented security vulnerabilities too:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Secure_Technology#Reported_vulnerabilities

    Your only real escape would be to run a CPU that's so old or
    low-spec that you wouldn't have the performance to run a modern
    web browser with Javascript support. Of course those web browsers
    are where people generally enter information worth snooping on now,
    so there's no real escape anymore.


    You simply need a non enterprise CPU that doesn't have the mini minix.
    That feature costs money. And has to be enabled in the BIOS. The BIOS
    may not have support for it, and then the feature is dead, useless.

    Its purpose is not to send data back to factory. Its purpose is to be
    used by the IT department for remote maintenance. And using this feature
    is expensive.

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