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Best to ignore the poster
CAE Linux 20 (ubuntu).
These disappeared a month ago.
I recently had the same problem and found it fell into another folder.
Like i said, in NecroSmurf, I usually pull up the directory "desktop"
and find it.
Problem is, this one, I didn't notice it was gone right away, so who knows what I did to it on top of misplacing it.
I am probably going to try to recollect that info from scratch,
though a large chunk is prolly not possible.
In <vahkjm$2dnbp$1@dont-email.me> Bobbie:
[Snip...]
Best to ignore the poster
+1
Like talking to a brick wall. Plonked it months ago.
On 8/26/24 22:29, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
CAE Linux 20 (ubuntu).You sound a bit hesitant to search with a file manager in
These disappeared a month ago.
I recently had the same problem and found it fell into another folder.
Like i said, in NecroSmurf, I usually pull up the directory "desktop"
and find it.
Problem is, this one, I didn't notice it was gone right away, so who
knows
what I did to it on top of misplacing it.
I am probably going to try to recollect that info from scratch,
though a large chunk is prolly not possible.
text or detail mode. I don't know what file management utility
you may have. I started with Midnight Commander called from
root terminal by "MC" and then discovered Dolphin which is a gui
tool and which I have learned to use well enough for my limited
purposes. Of course before this I used similar tools for similar
purposes on AmigaOS-1.3 - 3.9. Difference was I had to pay for
the excellent shareware took I used for file management.
As for the Linux distro - not all THAT much diff
anymore as to where 'Desktop' is located. If this
was a real prob, well, and I had a Win user who
did this too often, had to increase the time SAMBA
kept backups because of her bad mouse-skills. She
once dragged an ENTIRE share into the Win trash.
On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:54:28 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
On 9/1/24 3:05 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 22:41:49 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
On 8/31/24 4:10 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 02:16:14 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
On 8/29/24 11:03 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:21:09 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
Indeed pure genius. GUI file-managers make this all the easier. >>>>>>>> Cut tree, paste tree into the same dir.
GUI or no GUI, the kernel won’t let you move a directory into
itself.
Yet SOMEHOW it gets done - seen it ... must be certain things that >>>>>> fool the kernel's logic.
Not a chance.
I did go on to describe how you can get /Desktop/Desktop/
via 'indirect' replication.
All you’ve done is create one directory called “Desktop” inside another
directory called “Desktop”.
That was the original subject under discussion ...
Which is not possible using standard kernel APIs, GUI tool or no GUI tool.
Now, scarier, would be to tweak the inode entries so that /Desktop
and /Desktop/Desktop both point to /Desktop
You’re not trying to suggest your user managed to do that, are you?
On 27/08/2024 09:36, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
As for the Linux distro - not all THAT much diff
anymore as to where 'Desktop' is located. If this
was a real prob, well, and I had a Win user who
did this too often, had to increase the time SAMBA
kept backups because of her bad mouse-skills. She
once dragged an ENTIRE share into the Win trash.
I bui8lt a linux system for an ageing friend. He managed to drag the
*entire* desktop folder into the desktop folder.
So the file tree was /home/usr/Desktop/Desktop/****
I take my hat off to him. Sheer genius
On 27/08/2024 09:36, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
As for the Linux distro - not all THAT much diff
anymore as to where 'Desktop' is located. If this
was a real prob, well, and I had a Win user who
did this too often, had to increase the time SAMBA
kept backups because of her bad mouse-skills. She
once dragged an ENTIRE share into the Win trash.
I bui8lt a linux system for an ageing friend. He managed to drag the
*entire* desktop folder into the desktop folder.
So the file tree was /home/usr/Desktop/Desktop/****
I take my hat off to him. Sheer genius
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote at 09:28 this Tuesday (GMT):
On 27/08/2024 09:36, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
As for the Linux distro - not all THAT much diff
anymore as to where 'Desktop' is located. If this
was a real prob, well, and I had a Win user who
did this too often, had to increase the time SAMBA
kept backups because of her bad mouse-skills. She
once dragged an ENTIRE share into the Win trash.
I bui8lt a linux system for an ageing friend. He managed to drag the
*entire* desktop folder into the desktop folder.
So the file tree was /home/usr/Desktop/Desktop/****
I take my hat off to him. Sheer genius
I can do one better:
I somehow messed up so bad once that it created 30 layers of EFI folders within itself
The path was: /boot/EFI/EFI/EFI/EFI/EFI/EFI/EFI....
Holding down tab to get through all of them, there wasn't anything in
the bottom folder..
On 27/08/2024 09:36, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
As for the Linux distro - not all THAT much diff
anymore as to where 'Desktop' is located. If this
was a real prob, well, and I had a Win user who
did this too often, had to increase the time SAMBA
kept backups because of her bad mouse-skills. She
once dragged an ENTIRE share into the Win trash.
I bui8lt a linux system for an ageing friend. He managed to drag the
*entire* desktop folder into the desktop folder.
So the file tree was /home/usr/Desktop/Desktop/****
I take my hat off to him. Sheer genius
On 8/27/24 12:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote at 09:28 this Tuesday (GMT):
On 27/08/2024 09:36, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
As for the Linux distro - not all THAT much diff
anymore as to where 'Desktop' is located. If this
was a real prob, well, and I had a Win user who
did this too often, had to increase the time SAMBA
kept backups because of her bad mouse-skills. She
once dragged an ENTIRE share into the Win trash.
I bui8lt a linux system for an ageing friend. He managed to drag the
*entire* desktop folder into the desktop folder.
So the file tree was /home/usr/Desktop/Desktop/****
I take my hat off to him. Sheer genius
I can do one better:
I somehow messed up so bad once that it created 30 layers of EFI folders
within itself
The path was: /boot/EFI/EFI/EFI/EFI/EFI/EFI/EFI....
Holding down tab to get through all of them, there wasn't anything in
the bottom folder..
Once saw something much like that, but after a few layers
it was CIRCULAR ... /boot/EFI/EFI/EFI/EFI/boot/EFI/(and so
forth). The GUI file manager could not cope - something
about the way it parsed paths - had to dig in using
terminal utils, one 'cd' at a time.
I bui8lt a linux system for an ageing friend. He managed to drag the
*entire* desktop folder into the desktop folder.
So the file tree was /home/usr/Desktop/Desktop/****
Indeed pure genius. GUI file-managers make this all
the easier. Cut tree, paste tree into the same dir.
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:21:09 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
Indeed pure genius. GUI file-managers make this all
the easier. Cut tree, paste tree into the same dir.
GUI or no GUI, the kernel won’t let you move a directory into itself.
Similar frustrations with DBs - I'd say up to HALF the
code associated with any prompt was crude 'AI' intended
to detect/flag/fix user errors. SAYS "Date" and they'd
want to put a SS number in there or a date WAY out of
bounds. We had one euro native and she'd unthinkingly
do dates in the euro day-month format instead of the
US month-day. A lot of dates have numbers that are
within bounds either way ... "5/10/" vs "10/5/" so
this was a real pain in the ass and other context
clues had to be examined during the save phase.
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:28:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/08/2024 09:36, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
As for the Linux distro - not all THAT much diff
anymore as to where 'Desktop' is located. If this
was a real prob, well, and I had a Win user who
did this too often, had to increase the time SAMBA
kept backups because of her bad mouse-skills. She
once dragged an ENTIRE share into the Win trash.
I bui8lt a linux system for an ageing friend. He managed to drag the
*entire* desktop folder into the desktop folder.
So the file tree was /home/usr/Desktop/Desktop/****
I take my hat off to him. Sheer genius
Drag and drop is perhaps a mistake for people with shaky fingers or
glitchy mice/touchpads.
I agree that all data entry code should incorporate
brutally thorough validation routines.
It's time all user interfaces insisted on ISO 8601 dates.
I first realized over 50 years ago that year-month-day
is the only reasonable date format. It sorts better,
and it's less likely to trigger the month/day vs. day/month
confusion.
On 8/29/24 11:03 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:21:09 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
Indeed pure genius. GUI file-managers make this all
the easier. Cut tree, paste tree into the same dir.
GUI or no GUI, the kernel won’t let you move a directory into itself.
Yet SOMEHOW it gets done - seen it ... must be certain things
that fool the kernel's logic.
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:21:09 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:--
Indeed pure genius. GUI file-managers make this all
the easier. Cut tree, paste tree into the same dir.
GUI or no GUI, the kernel won’t let you move a directory into itself.
It's time all user interfaces insisted on ISO 8601 dates.
I first realized over 50 years ago that year-month-day
is the only reasonable date format. It sorts better,
and it's less likely to trigger the month/day vs. day/month
confusion.
I agree that all data entry code should incorporate
brutally thorough validation routines.