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On Fri, 13 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Trying
Index Format = STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24
FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%) SIZE ATT SUBJECT(75%)
+ N 688 22-11-30 20:31 Carlos E.R. dest@opensu (4490) 1 Re:
Could you check...
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^
Exactly! I'm also thinking abotu removing message nr, since I never use
it. I mean it is interesting to know how many mails I have in an inbox,
but I actually never use that knowledge for anything, so why not remove
it and get the extra screen real estate? =)
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024, Helmut Richter wrote:
It is very simple. You go to the index line option, then press ? for
help, in that article, a link to all tokens is highlighted. Follow that
link and you have descriptions of all tokens.
I find the help of alpine to be one of its major strengths! The help
pages are excellent and very often I do not find I even need to google
it. I think the main google topic I had was setting it up with gmail.
This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
--8323328-416857779-1726305972=:1902
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
On 2024-09-13 23:23, D wrote:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
...
Trying
Index Format = STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24
FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%) SIZE ATT SUBJECT(75%)
+ N 688 22-11-30 20:31 Carlos E.R. dest@opensu (4490) 1 Re:
Could you check...
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^
Exactly! I'm also thinking abotu removing message nr, since I never use it. >> I mean it is interesting to know how many mails I have in an inbox, but I
actually never use that knowledge for anything, so why not remove it and
get the extra screen real estate? =)
There are commands that act on a range of messages specified by number, IIRC.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
--8323328-416857779-1726305972=:1902
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
Why exactly are you creating multipart articles in followup, just to
have a plain text part? What client are you using and why do you have it
set to do that?
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, D wrote:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024, Helmut Richter wrote:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-09-13 10:25, D wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-09-11 21:48, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Mikey dixit:
I use
24-09-12
YY-MM-DD
index-format=STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%) >>>>>> SIZE SUBJECT(75%)
722 24-08-26 23:36 Mail System Internal (460) DON'T
DELETE
THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Thank you very much Carlos, that really scratched a small itch I've had >>>>> for
a long time! =)
I found "ATT" which enables me to see in the index, which messages have >>>>> attachments and which messages don't. Up until now, I've always relied >>>>> on
the size of the message to see if there are attachments, but now I get a >>>>> nice nr in the message index, indicating the nr of attachments. Thank >>>>> you
very much! =)
That's an interesting idea, adding 'ATT'. Like you, I used the size.
Trying
Index Format = STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24
FROM(20%)
ADDRESSTO(10%) SIZE ATT SUBJECT(75%)
+ N 688 22-11-30 20:31 Carlos E.R. dest@opensu (4490) 1 Re:
Could
you check...
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^
I am using pine/alpine at least since 2006, that is for 18 years now, and >>> have never come across these options. Meanwhile, I have found
https://alpineapp.email/alpine/alpine-info/misc/index-format.html
which explains how to configure an index line if you are already well
acquainted with the "tokens" you can use. Unfortunately, this web site
takes that for granted (perhaps they find something like SMARTDATE
self-describing enough that you can easily guess what it means and what
the alternatives would have been).
Does anyone know where to find a complete list of tokens that can be used, >>> preferably with a description what they mean?
It is very simple. You go to the index line option, then press ? for help, in
that article, a link to all tokens is highlighted. Follow that link and you >> have descriptions of all tokens.
Yes, of course. I tried that yesterday but pressed help too late, that is, after pressing CR for starting the change. At this point, "Help" is on ^G
and shows nothing about what to enter. My fault, and an idiotic one.
The existence of the cited web page made me think that the remaining information is on a web page as well. And once starting the search means there are easily hours spent without finding anything. And the obvious is
no longer on the screen.
Thanks for your help!
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, >>>while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
--8323328-416857779-1726305972=:1902
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
Why exactly are you creating multipart articles in followup, just to
have a plain text part? What client are you using and why do you have it >>set to do that?
Hello Adam, I have no idea. From my side everything looks alright, and my >client is alpine. If you have any suggestions for how to fix it, please
feel free to let me know.
Hi,
alpine uses *two* completely bogus date formats:
one for recent mails (“Yesterday”, “Saturday”, etc.),
one for older mails (“08/10/23” but is this d/m/y, y/m/d
or something even worse?).
alpine uses *two* completely bogus date formats:
one for recent mails (“Yesterday”, “Saturday”, etc.),
one for older mails (“08/10/23” but is this d/m/y, y/m/d
or something even worse?).
On Tue, 10 Sep 2024, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
alpine uses *two* completely bogus date formats:
one for recent mails (“Yesterday”, “Saturday”, etc.),
one for older mails (“08/10/23” but is this d/m/y, y/m/d
or something even worse?).
The only reasonable way to write a date/time is
YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss = "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"
Unique interpretation, and sorted date strings are chronological.
Whatever a software offers as time display options users might find convenient, there should always be the option to use this format for *all* dates, even if they happen to be "today", "Easter Monday", "last
Halloween" or something else.
On Wed, 11 Sep 2024, Helmut Richter wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2024, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
alpine uses *two* completely bogus date formats:
one for recent mails (“Yesterday”, “Saturday”, etc.),
one for older mails (“08/10/23” but is this d/m/y, y/m/d
or something even worse?).
The only reasonable way to write a date/time is
YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss = "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"
Unique interpretation, and sorted date strings are chronological.
Whatever a software offers as time display options users might find convenient, there should always be the option to use this format for *all* dates, even if they happen to be "today", "Easter Monday", "last
Halloween" or something else.
As far as I know, the source is available for you to implement that. Create a patch, and I'll happily apply it to my own alpine.
Personally, the dates in alpine do not disturb me much.
It is Month/Day/Year(2 digit yr)
The only reasonable way to write a date/time is
YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss = "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"
Mikey dixit:
It is Month/Day/Year(2 digit yr)
Ugh, that’s literally the *worst*.
Helmut Richter dixit:
The only reasonable way to write a date/time is
YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss = "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"
I fully agree, ISO 8601 FTW.
But ISO 8601 would be too wide for the screen, so I’d
be okay with what pine does. (The lack of the year does
irritate me a little, but it’d still be better than what
alpine currently does.)
On 2024-09-11 21:48, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Mikey dixit:
It is Month/Day/Year(2 digit yr)
Ugh, that’s literally the *worst*.
Helmut Richter dixit:
The only reasonable way to write a date/time is
YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss = "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"
I fully agree, ISO 8601 FTW.
But ISO 8601 would be too wide for the screen, so I’d
be okay with what pine does. (The lack of the year does
irritate me a little, but it’d still be better than what
alpine currently does.)
I use
24-09-12
YY-MM-DD
index-format=STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%)
SIZE SUBJECT(75%)
722 24-08-26 23:36 Mail System Internal (460) DON'T
DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
On 2024-09-11 21:48, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Mikey dixit:
It is Month/Day/Year(2 digit yr)
Ugh, that’s literally the *worst*.
Helmut Richter dixit:
The only reasonable way to write a date/time is
YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss = "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"
I fully agree, ISO 8601 FTW.
But ISO 8601 would be too wide for the screen, so I’d
be okay with what pine does. (The lack of the year does
irritate me a little, but it’d still be better than what
alpine currently does.)
I use
24-09-12
YY-MM-DD
index-format=STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%) SIZE SUBJECT(75%)
722 24-08-26 23:36 Mail System Internal (460) DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-09-11 21:48, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Mikey dixit:
I use
24-09-12
YY-MM-DD
index-format=STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%)
SIZE SUBJECT(75%)
722 24-08-26 23:36 Mail System Internal (460) DON'T
DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Thank you very much Carlos, that really scratched a small itch I've had
for a long time! =)
I found "ATT" which enables me to see in the index, which messages have attachments and which messages don't. Up until now, I've always relied
on the size of the message to see if there are attachments, but now I
get a nice nr in the message index, indicating the nr of attachments.
Thank you very much! =)
On 2024-09-13 10:25, D wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-09-11 21:48, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Mikey dixit:
I use
24-09-12
YY-MM-DD
index-format=STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%) SIZE SUBJECT(75%)
722 24-08-26 23:36 Mail System Internal (460) DON'T DELETE
THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Thank you very much Carlos, that really scratched a small itch I've had for a long time! =)
I found "ATT" which enables me to see in the index, which messages have attachments and which messages don't. Up until now, I've always relied on the size of the message to see if there are attachments, but now I get a nice nr in the message index, indicating the nr of attachments. Thank you very much! =)
That's an interesting idea, adding 'ATT'. Like you, I used the size.
Trying
Index Format = STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%)
ADDRESSTO(10%) SIZE ATT SUBJECT(75%)
+ N 688 22-11-30 20:31 Carlos E.R. dest@opensu (4490) 1 Re: Could you check...
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^
On 2024-09-13 10:25, D wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-09-11 21:48, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Mikey dixit:
I use
24-09-12
YY-MM-DD
index-format=STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%)
SIZE SUBJECT(75%)
722 24-08-26 23:36 Mail System Internal (460) DON'T DELETE
THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Thank you very much Carlos, that really scratched a small itch I've had for >> a long time! =)
I found "ATT" which enables me to see in the index, which messages have
attachments and which messages don't. Up until now, I've always relied on
the size of the message to see if there are attachments, but now I get a
nice nr in the message index, indicating the nr of attachments. Thank you
very much! =)
That's an interesting idea, adding 'ATT'. Like you, I used the size.
Trying
Index Format = STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%) SIZE ATT SUBJECT(75%)
+ N 688 22-11-30 20:31 Carlos E.R. dest@opensu (4490) 1 Re: Could you check...
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-09-13 10:25, D wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-09-11 21:48, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Mikey dixit:
I use
24-09-12
YY-MM-DD
index-format=STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%) >>>> SIZE SUBJECT(75%)
722 24-08-26 23:36 Mail System Internal (460) DON'T DELETE
THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Thank you very much Carlos, that really scratched a small itch I've had for >>> a long time! =)
I found "ATT" which enables me to see in the index, which messages have
attachments and which messages don't. Up until now, I've always relied on >>> the size of the message to see if there are attachments, but now I get a >>> nice nr in the message index, indicating the nr of attachments. Thank you >>> very much! =)
That's an interesting idea, adding 'ATT'. Like you, I used the size.
Trying
Index Format = STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%)
ADDRESSTO(10%) SIZE ATT SUBJECT(75%)
+ N 688 22-11-30 20:31 Carlos E.R. dest@opensu (4490) 1 Re: Could >> you check...
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^
I am using pine/alpine at least since 2006, that is for 18 years now, and have never come across these options. Meanwhile, I have found
https://alpineapp.email/alpine/alpine-info/misc/index-format.html
which explains how to configure an index line if you are already well acquainted with the "tokens" you can use. Unfortunately, this web site
takes that for granted (perhaps they find something like SMARTDATE self-describing enough that you can easily guess what it means and what
the alternatives would have been).
Does anyone know where to find a complete list of tokens that can be used, preferably with a description what they mean?
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024, Helmut Richter wrote:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-09-13 10:25, D wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-09-11 21:48, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Mikey dixit:
I use
24-09-12
YY-MM-DD
index-format=STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%) ADDRESSTO(10%)
SIZE SUBJECT(75%)
722 24-08-26 23:36 Mail System Internal (460) DON'T
DELETE
THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Thank you very much Carlos, that really scratched a small itch I've had for
a long time! =)
I found "ATT" which enables me to see in the index, which messages have attachments and which messages don't. Up until now, I've always relied on
the size of the message to see if there are attachments, but now I get a
nice nr in the message index, indicating the nr of attachments. Thank you
very much! =)
That's an interesting idea, adding 'ATT'. Like you, I used the size.
Trying
Index Format = STATUS MSGNO SHORTDATEISO TIME24 FROM(20%)
ADDRESSTO(10%) SIZE ATT SUBJECT(75%)
+ N 688 22-11-30 20:31 Carlos E.R. dest@opensu (4490) 1 Re: Could
you check...
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^
I am using pine/alpine at least since 2006, that is for 18 years now, and have never come across these options. Meanwhile, I have found
https://alpineapp.email/alpine/alpine-info/misc/index-format.html
which explains how to configure an index line if you are already well acquainted with the "tokens" you can use. Unfortunately, this web site takes that for granted (perhaps they find something like SMARTDATE self-describing enough that you can easily guess what it means and what
the alternatives would have been).
Does anyone know where to find a complete list of tokens that can be used, preferably with a description what they mean?
It is very simple. You go to the index line option, then press ? for help, in that article, a link to all tokens is highlighted. Follow that link and you have descriptions of all tokens.