I did some mail maintenance on my webmail account. In the midst of all
that work, I did some folder rearranging and creation. My alpine hasn't
gotten the hint that it should refresh the folders, and the emails now
obscured by this are unreachable.

Is there a quick fix to this?

Thanks

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Am 26.11.2024 um 06:38 schrieb Daniel:

I did some mail maintenance on my webmail account. In the midst of all
that work, I did some folder rearranging and creation. My alpine hasn't gotten the hint that it should refresh the folders, and the emails now obscured by this are unreachable.

Is there a quick fix to this?

Did you try to restart alpine?

Holger

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, Daniel wrote:

I did some mail maintenance on my webmail account. In the midst of all
that work, I did some folder rearranging and creation. My alpine hasn't gotten the hint that it should refresh the folders, and the emails now obscured by this are unreachable.

Is there a quick fix to this?

alpine gets its data from the server, so if the server has not caught up
with the changes inthe webmail account, alpine will not see them.

if you have alpine open in the foler list, you have to refresh that list
to see the changes. this means that alpine does not see the changes in the server until you refresh that list, and you can refresh the list by
opening any folder and then opening the folder list screen again.

i hope this help.

--
Eduardo
https://alpineapp.email (web)
http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> writes:

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, Daniel wrote:

I did some mail maintenance on my webmail account. In the midst of all
that work, I did some folder rearranging and creation. My alpine hasn't
gotten the hint that it should refresh the folders, and the emails now
obscured by this are unreachable.

Is there a quick fix to this?

alpine gets its data from the server, so if the server has not caught
up with the changes inthe webmail account, alpine will not see them.

My email is hosted by my domain registrar. I have no access to the
server per se. I either use the web interface or use clients.

if you have alpine open in the foler list, you have to refresh that
list to see the changes. this means that alpine does not see the
changes in the server until you refresh that list, and you can refresh
the list by opening any folder and then opening the folder list screen
again.

The folders in question are nested in another folder. Does that make a difference?

i hope this help.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, Daniel wrote:

alpine gets its data from the server, so if the server has not caught
up with the changes inthe webmail account, alpine will not see them.

My email is hosted by my domain registrar. I have no access to the
server per se. I either use the web interface or use clients.

it looks like we are not understanding each other. alpine will take the information that the server gives it and display it you. it is up to the
server to export that information to alpine.

alpine will request the information needed to display that information
when it opens the folder list screen, or you do operations with folders -
such as delete, rename, etc. alpine will not see changes if you do
nothing, because imap servers do not send that type of changes to clients.

--
Eduardo
https://alpineapp.email (web)
http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 09:45:15 +0000, Daniel wrote:

Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> writes:

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, Daniel wrote:

I did some mail maintenance on my webmail account. In the midst of all
that work, I did some folder rearranging and creation. My alpine hasn't
gotten the hint that it should refresh the folders, and the emails now
obscured by this are unreachable.

Is there a quick fix to this?

alpine gets its data from the server, so if the server has not caught
up with the changes inthe webmail account, alpine will not see them.

My email is hosted by my domain registrar. I have no access to the
server per se. I either use the web interface or use clients.

if you have alpine open in the foler list, you have to refresh that
list to see the changes. this means that alpine does not see the
changes in the server until you refresh that list, and you can refresh
the list by opening any folder and then opening the folder list screen
again.

The folders in question are nested in another folder. Does that make a difference?

Where are these mail dolders you speak of? Are theye up on the IMAP
server, or are they ones you've created on you own personal computer?

I have a combintation, myself. I keep some stuff up on the imap sever, but
I have over 50 unique mail folders on my workstation for most of the mail. [IMAP]===> getmail ==> procmail ==> [local folders]

Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ.net | linux
38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | FreeBSD
* Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> writes:

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 09:45:15 +0000, Daniel wrote:

Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> writes:

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, Daniel wrote:

I did some mail maintenance on my webmail account. In the midst of all >>>> that work, I did some folder rearranging and creation. My alpine hasn't >>>> gotten the hint that it should refresh the folders, and the emails now >>>> obscured by this are unreachable.

Is there a quick fix to this?

alpine gets its data from the server, so if the server has not caught
up with the changes inthe webmail account, alpine will not see them.

My email is hosted by my domain registrar. I have no access to the
server per se. I either use the web interface or use clients.

if you have alpine open in the foler list, you have to refresh that
list to see the changes. this means that alpine does not see the
changes in the server until you refresh that list, and you can refresh
the list by opening any folder and then opening the folder list screen
again.

The folders in question are nested in another folder. Does that make a
difference?

Where are these mail dolders you speak of? Are theye up on the IMAP
server, or are they ones you've created on you own personal computer?

I have a combintation, myself. I keep some stuff up on the imap sever, but
I have over 50 unique mail folders on my workstation for most of the mail. [IMAP]===> getmail ==> procmail ==> [local folders]

All of the folders are on the imap server. I don't keep local folders,
per se.

Jonesy

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, Daniel wrote:

That's my problem. I moved some folders around on the webmail part, but
my alpine doesn't download those changes. I'm not sure what to do in
order for alpine to pull the updated folder list.

my thinking is that you moved these folders outside of the path that
alpine sees.

here is an example of what i mean. imagine you have set up your alpine to
see all folders in mail/, then alpine would be able to see mail/foo as the folder foo. however, if you create a folder under another directory, say other/, unless other/ is inside mail/ then alpine will not see it, because alpine can only see what is under mail/.

i hope this helps a bit.

--
Eduardo
https://alpineapp.email (web)
http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> writes:

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, Daniel wrote:

alpine gets its data from the server, so if the server has not
caught up with the changes inthe webmail account, alpine will not
see them.

My email is hosted by my domain registrar. I have no access to the
server per se. I either use the web interface or use clients.

it looks like we are not understanding each other. alpine will take
the information that the server gives it and display it you. it is up
to the server to export that information to alpine.

I see. ok

/snip

or you do operations with
folders - such as delete, rename, etc. alpine will not see changes if
you do nothing, because imap servers do not send that type of changes
to clients.

That's my problem. I moved some folders around on the webmail part, but
my alpine doesn't download those changes. I'm not sure what to do in
order for alpine to pull the updated folder list.

Thanks

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)