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It doesnót matter what Arlen says or does.
Nonsense. Lies always matter, and Arlen lies constantly.
Easily, since after the initial 2FA verification your device is trusted, which means subsequent logins are done without 2FA. You're just showing
how little you know about Apple's 2FA implementation.
Jolly Roger wrote on 5 Sep 2024 15:01:49 GMT :
Easily, since after the initial 2FA verification your device is
trusted, which means subsequent logins are done without 2FA. You're
just showing how little you know about Apple's 2FA implementation.
Untrue Jolly Roger.
Clearly you've never tried
If you create a new AppleID as of Feb2023, that new account must
use 2FA. You cannot, for the rest of your life, remove that 2FA.
Only Apple does that.
That is total bullshit. I have lots of financial and other accounts
that demand 2FA, no option out.
To be fair, I think he was talking about mobile phone manufacturers.
FACT:
If you create a new AppleID as of Feb2023, that new account *must*
use 2FA. You cannot, for the rest of your life, remove that 2FA.
Only Apple does that.
That is total bullshit. I have lots of financial and other accounts that demand 2FA, no option out.
Tom Elam wrote on Mon, 2 Sep 2024 08:49:10 -0400 :
FACT:
If you create a new AppleID as of Feb2023, that new account *must*
use 2FA. You cannot, for the rest of your life, remove that 2FA.
Only Apple does that.
That is total bullshit. I have lots of financial and other accounts that
demand 2FA, no option out.
First off, I don't bullshit. I'm intelligent. I know the facts.
You may *hate* facts about Apple - but they're still facts about Apple.
Apple is the only common operating system vendor who *requires* 2FA
(for all new AppleID's which were created after February of 2023).
On 9/2/2024 12:22 AM, Andrew wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 1 Sep 2024 19:45:00 GMT :
It doesn�t matter what Arlen says or does.
Nonsense. Lies always matter, and Arlen lies constantly.
Heh heh heh... Jolly Roger *hates* well-known facts about Apple products.
FACT:
If you create a new AppleID as of Feb2023, that new account *must*
use 2FA. You cannot, for the rest of your life, remove that 2FA.
Only Apple does that.
That is total bullshit. I have lots of financial and other accounts that demand 2FA, no option out.
That is total bullshit. I have lots of financial and other accounts that
demand 2FA, no option out.
Little Arlen wants everyone to ignore the benefits of 2FA and pretend
that we all need to disable it on a regular basis, because: troll.
To be fair, I think he was talking about mobile phone manufacturers.
To be fair, many companies require 2FA to be enabled, and many others
prefer it to be enabled, because it greatly increases security for those accounts, and more importantly most people never need to disable it.
Also to be fair, there is no supposed "loss of privacy" inherent with
2FA as little Arlen claims. This entire topic is a manufactured troll.
That you side with and support Arlen's every troll says a lot about you.
That's just a fact that you *must* provide Apple a phone number.
And you *must* have that phone with you for the rest of your life.
Every time you log into an Apple device.
Nope, just the very first time. Afterwards there is no need to do 2FA
since the device is remembered from then on. Also, you can easily
change the 2FA number if/when needed. As usual, Arlen can't write about anything Apple-related without injecting outright lies into it.
Jolly Roger wrote on 2 Sep 2024 18:33:10 GMT :
That's just a fact that you *must* provide Apple a phone number.
And you *must* have that phone with you for the rest of your life.
Every time you log into an Apple device.
Nope, just the very first time. Afterwards there is no need to do 2FA
since the device is remembered from then on. Also, you can easily
change the 2FA number if/when needed. As usual, Arlen can't write
about anything Apple-related without injecting outright lies into it.
The fact Jolly Roger resorts to brazen lies tells us what we need to
know.
The fact Jolly Roger resorts to brazen lies tells us what we need to
know.
Nothing I said was untrue. You, on the other hand...
It wasn't a success. Arlen started his 2FA post where he lied about
Apple's 2FA implementation repeatedly before the month was over. What
BGM and Arlen really want is to be able to troll without repercussion.
They want to lie without anyone correcting them. That is what they
consider "success".
Jolly Roger wrote on 3 Sep 2024 18:14:06 GMT :
It wasn't a success. Arlen started his 2FA post where he lied about
Apple's 2FA implementation repeatedly before the month was over. What
BGM and Arlen really want is to be able to troll without repercussion.
They want to lie without anyone correcting them. That is what they
consider "success".
And yet, you're deathly afraid
Jolly Roger wrote on 3 Sep 2024 17:16:00 GMT :
The fact Jolly Roger resorts to brazen lies tells us what we need to
know.
Nothing I said was untrue. You, on the other hand...
Since blah blah blah
Nothing I said was untrue.
That's why you are trying to move the goal post now.
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 02:43:25 GMT :
Nothing I said was untrue.
That's why you are trying to move the goal post now.
The point of blah blah blah
If there is another way to log into an Apple device *without* having to
also always carry around an Android phone to do it, let me know please.
If there is another way to log into an Apple device *without* having to
also always carry around an Android phone to do it, let me know please.
Not true. As you have been told numerous times and ignored, you only
need it the first time you sign into a new device. After that, the
device is trusted. You're lying, because: troll.
And yet, you're deathly afraid
Projection. Your fear of Apple is why you spend most of your life
trolling the apple news groups
But the minute someone steps in to
correct those lies, there's a "problem".
I personally have no interest in whether the trolls "succeed" or not.
the trolls for obvious reasons. But the minute someone steps in to
correct those lies, there's a "problem".
"Correcting troll lies."
This concept was declared a dead duck sometime in the early 1990's if
not earlier.
Not too late to resume "troll free September".
Just ignore them, including straight man badgooferthing.
Since Jolly Roger always accuses me of being a troll
You always side with known trolls, giving them a pass but objecting when anyone stands up to them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 02:50:36 GMT :
But the minute someone steps in to correct those lies, there's a
"problem".
Hi Jolly Roger,
I realize you're an Apple religious zealot
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 15:18:10 GMT :
If there is another way to log into an Apple device *without* having
to also always carry around an Android phone to do it, let me know
please.
Not true. As you have been told numerous times and ignored, you only
need it the first time you sign into a new device. After that, the
device is trusted. You're lying, because: troll.
Jolly Roger - why is it you brazenly lie when you *hate* what Apple
does?
FACT: Apple often requires logging into your Apple ID and we've proved
that with incontrovertible proof, e.g., when Apple changes the terms
and conditions.
The fact you're completely ignorant
FACT: There are *many* (very many!) other times Apple requires a
re-login into your Apple ID
I am well aware that Apple will nag you five, ten, fifteen times a day
to re login.
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 02:44:11 GMT :
And yet, you're deathly afraid
Projection. Your fear of Apple is why you spend most of your life
trolling the apple news groups
All religious nutcases fear the truth about their religious zealotry.
John Hill wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2024 05:54:05 -0000 (UTC) :
I personally have no interest in whether the trolls "succeed" or not.
Why do you call all facts about Apple that you fear, to be trolls?
*FACT:*
Apple forces all new Apple Id's to use 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple will never let you remove that 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple often requires you to re-login into your Apple ID.
*FACT:*
Apple forces all new Apple Id's to use 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple will never let you remove that 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple often requires you to re-login into your Apple ID.
FACT: that doesn't require 2FA since the device is already trusted. You
lie like this because you are a troll.
FACT: There are *many* (very many!) other times Apple requires a
re-login into your Apple ID
FACT: None of which require 2FA since the device is already trusted.
All religious nutcases fear the truth about their religious zealotry.
You just described yourself succinctly.
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:16:23 GMT :
All religious nutcases fear the truth about their religious zealotry.
You just described yourself succinctly.
You strange Apple nutcases interest me, because you are so very religious.
What's interesting about you, Jolly Roger, is not that you know nothing
about Apple, nor that you lie every time a fact about Apple is provided.
No. What's interesting about you, Jolly Roger, is how *afraid* you are.
*Every day of your life, you live in abject fear.*
You have no idea that Apple forces you to re-login even if you've never logged out. This is extremely basic. And yet, you're completely ignorant.
You are so *afraid* of that fact that you brazenly lie about it.
When the fact is easily proven, then you call that proof, a troll.
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Your abject *fear* of facts about Apple products is what interests me.
David Brooks wrote on Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:26:05 +0100 :
What response(s) do you get when you ask on the Apple Support
Communities forums?
You missed the part about the fact I called Apple Support. 800-275-2273 Multiple times.
Each time I initially got the wrong answer from the Apple "Advisor", I
asked to speak to a more senior advisor, where the calls took hours.
I explained that I was aware of Apple's lawsuit where at least Apple said,
in the past, that they're remove 2FA within 2 weeks of you creating it. https://www.macrumors.com/2019/02/09/apple-two-factor-authentication-lawsuit/
But no more. Now it's mandatory.
Apple is the only common operating system vendor who requires me to keep my Android phone with me (at all times for the rest of my life!) just so that
I can log into my Apple ID - which - contrary to what the ignorant zealots seem to believe - happens all the time as Apple constantly forces re
logging in (and if you're unaware of that fact - then try NOT logging in!).
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Apple nags you five, ten, fifteen times a day to log in if you don't do it.
Note: The ignorant Apple zealots are unaware of this as they always log in.
What response(s) do you get when you ask on the Apple Support
Communities forums?
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:15:49 GMT :
FACT: There are *many* (very many!) other times Apple requires a
re-login into your Apple ID
FACT: None of which require 2FA since the device is already trusted.
Tell us, Jolly Roger, if your 2FA is your Android phone, how are you
going to log into your Apple ID (for the rest of your entire life!)
without *always* (for the rest of your life!) having to carry your
Android phone with you forever, just to log into your account, which,
we've proven, Apple requires you to do frequently (which you don't
notice - but it's there).
Tell us.
Btw, things might improve if you got yourself an iPhone!
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:16:23 GMT :
All religious nutcases fear the truth about their religious
zealotry.
You just described yourself succinctly.
You strange Apple nutcases interest me, because you are so very
religious.
You have no idea that Apple forces you to re-login even if you've
never logged out.
Your abject *fear* of facts about Apple products is what interests me.
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:18:31 GMT :
*FACT:*
Apple forces all new Apple Id's to use 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple will never let you remove that 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple often requires you to re-login into your Apple ID.
FACT: that doesn't require 2FA since the device is already trusted. You
lie like this because you are a troll.
Apple *forces* you to re-verify your account which you do so often that you don't even realize you're doing it, Jolly Roger.
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So you lie about it.
You brazenly deny all facts, in fact.
That's what is so interesting about you, to me, Jolly Roger.
Your whole life you've been told you're stupid, but Apple tells you
otherwise because Apple caters to people like you Jolly Roger.
Because Apple caters to people like you, Jolly Roger, your ego is tied up
in what other people think about Apple products (i.e., you're a zealot).
Because you're a religious zealot, you *fear* the truth about Apple.
That's why you interest me, Jolly Roger.
I've never met in the flesh people as strange as you religious zealots.
David Brooks wrote on Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:04:10 +0100 :
Btw, things might improve if you got yourself an iPhone!
Heh heh heh... I have plenty of iPhones. Probably more than you do.
And I have plenty of iPads. Plus plenty of Androids. And PCs too.
Remember.... I use these devices to test the *truth* about products.
Which is why I set up the new iPads first, without an Apple ID.
Which was to *test* the *truth* about how it works without an Apple ID.
Which - let's be frank - is an iPad is worthless without an Apple ID.
Which proves the point that Apple designed iOS as a dumb terminal.
Devoid of even the most basic of functionality without logging into Apple.
Having proved that fact, I decided to add an Apple ID to that new iPad. That's when I found out you *must* add 2FA (since Feb2023).
Only Apple forces you to murder your privacy.
Nobody else does. Only Apple.
Moving forward, since the iPad is a dumb terminal, I added a new Apple ID.
My daily drive is an Android phone. So that's the phone number I used.
Sure, it worked.
But now I have to have Android with me just to log into my Apple device.
That's absurd.
Only Apple could come up with such a ridiculously absurd policy.
Because most Apple customers are ignorant sheep the policy will remain.
Apple customers will put up with anything - they're all ignorant sheep.
The fact is Apple murdered privacy.
And, for me, I have to carry two devices just to log into the Apple one.
On 2024-09-05, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:18:31 GMT :
*FACT:*
Apple forces all new Apple Id's to use 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple will never let you remove that 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple often requires you to re-login into your Apple ID.
FACT: that doesn't require 2FA since the device is already trusted. You
lie like this because you are a troll.
Apple *forces* you to re-verify your account which you do so often that you >> don't even realize you're doing it, Jolly Roger.
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZR5mZ287/appleid07.jpg>
That's not 2FA, little Arlen. After the initial 2FA verification, the
device is trusted and subsequent logins don't require it. Nothing you
can say will change this fact.
So you lie about it.
Projection. You're the one lying, as usual.
You brazenly deny all facts, in fact.
Projection. You're the one denying the fact that even your little
screenshot shows no 2FA prompt.
That's what is so interesting about you, to me, Jolly Roger.
Your whole life you've been told you're stupid, but Apple tells you
otherwise because Apple caters to people like you Jolly Roger.
Because Apple caters to people like you, Jolly Roger, your ego is tied up
in what other people think about Apple products (i.e., you're a zealot).
Because you're a religious zealot, you *fear* the truth about Apple.
That's why you interest me, Jolly Roger.
I've never met in the flesh people as strange as you religious zealots.
All ad hominem. You're pathetic.
On 2024-09-05 08:09, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-09-05, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:18:31 GMT :
*FACT:*
Apple forces all new Apple Id's to use 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple will never let you remove that 2FV.
*FACT:*
Apple often requires you to re-login into your Apple ID.
FACT: that doesn't require 2FA since the device is already trusted. You >>>> lie like this because you are a troll.
Apple *forces* you to re-verify your account which you do so often that you >>> don't even realize you're doing it, Jolly Roger.
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZR5mZ287/appleid07.jpg>
That's not 2FA, little Arlen. After the initial 2FA verification, the
device is trusted and subsequent logins don't require it. Nothing you
can say will change this fact.
So you lie about it.
Projection. You're the one lying, as usual.
You brazenly deny all facts, in fact.
Projection. You're the one denying the fact that even your little
screenshot shows no 2FA prompt.
That's what is so interesting about you, to me, Jolly Roger.
Your whole life you've been told you're stupid, but Apple tells you
otherwise because Apple caters to people like you Jolly Roger.
Because Apple caters to people like you, Jolly Roger, your ego is tied up >>> in what other people think about Apple products (i.e., you're a zealot). >>>
Because you're a religious zealot, you *fear* the truth about Apple.
That's why you interest me, Jolly Roger.
I've never met in the flesh people as strange as you religious zealots.
All ad hominem. You're pathetic.
I have four Apple devices currently:
The MacBook Air M3 on which I'm typing this post.
An iPhone 8.
An iPad Mini... ...I can't remember the specific generation
And an Apple TV.
They're all connected to my AppleID, which I created before 2FA was
required, but which I have opted into.
I'm never bother by requests to login.
Everything...
...as the saying goes...
...just works.
I get all my data synchronized across all my devices and it all just
happens.
My biggest peeve is that sometimes, my Mac doesn't pick up on the fact
that I'd like to transfer a phone call to it.
