• Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Window

    From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Apr 10 09:59:23 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-04-10 04:06, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2025-04-05 22:30, Marion wrote:
    Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial
    as copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without
    the net.

    In a Windows/Android thread, we've been discussing how to use
    screenshots to get past Android security, when Steve Sharf noted
    that iOS lacks Android's security so we can successfully screenshot
    iOS on Windows PCs.
    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=58173&group=c
    omp.mobile.android#58173> "Ironically, iOS doesn't have the
    capability for apps to restrict screenshots. I've used an
    iPhone, on at least two occasions, to do a screenshot of a
    virtual ID card that I wanted to add to my Google Wallet.
    Transferred the image from the iPhone to my Android phone."

    So the plan is to install these apps on iOS & Android to do
    cartooning.

    iOS "Voila"

    <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voil%C3%A0-ai-artist-cartoon-ghibli/i
    d1558421405> Android "Voila"
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wemagineai.voila>

    iOS "ToonMe"

    <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/toonme-ai-cartoon-face-maker/id150812
    0751 Android "ToonMe"
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vicman.toonmeapp>

    iOS "Photo Lab"

    <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/photo-lab-playground-ai/id6443653724>
    Android "Photo Lab"
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vsin.t16_funny_photo>

    The main problem now is how to perform the trivial task of copying
    a photo from the Windows PC to the iOS device without using Apple's
    iTunes abomination bloatware (& insecureware), or Internet servers.

    Has anyone on this newsgroup ever copied a photo from Windows to iOS
    without having to create an account on someone's server on the net?

    Yup.

    Turn on file sharing on your Windows PC on the same LAN as your iOS
    device (Control Panel: Network & Sharing Center) and turn on Sharing
    for some folder. Make sure you have a password on your user account
    (local or Microsoft cloud-based).

    Get the IP address of your Windows PC.

    Launch the Files app on your iOS device and from the ellipsis in the
    top right, choose "Connect to Server" and enter the IP address of
    your PC.

    When prompted, enter your PC user ID and password.

    You're now connected to the server, and you can go straight into the
    sharing interface in the Photos app to "Export Unmodified Original"
    and navigate to that connected server.

    Done.


    I had to modify the Windows shared folder security permissions to
    Read/Write in order to allow writing from the iPhone to the PC.

    And does that surprise you?

    That is a normal part of setting up a share: deciding what level of
    access those to whom it is shared will have.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Apr 10 20:35:58 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 17:17:40 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    I had to modify the Windows shared folder security permissions to >>>Read/Write in order to allow writing from the iPhone to the PC.

    And does that surprise you?

    That is a normal part of setting up a share: deciding what level of
    access those to whom it is shared will have.

    Easy there, 51. I was adding to your instructions for those in this
    group who keep saying they can't write to the Windows shared folder.

    Hi badgolferman,

    Thank you for adding value so that billions of people can do what most of
    them don't know how to do - some of whom are on this very newsgroup now.

    We want to always add value - so I appreciate that you explained how to get
    the SMB process to work so that people can copy a file from a PC to iOS.

    This is especially important to me because I generally test everything
    before I post but I can't test SMB as it doesn't work in my environment.

    One question I'd like you to clarify is whether you can do what people want
    to do, which Frank Slootweg also asked - and I concur it's very important.

    1. From the PC... (Windows or Linux but I think you're on Windows)
    2. Can you *initiate* that file/folder transfer from the PC over to iOS?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Thu Apr 10 13:43:47 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-04-10 13:35, Marion wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 17:17:40 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    I had to modify the Windows shared folder security permissions to
    Read/Write in order to allow writing from the iPhone to the PC.

    And does that surprise you?

    That is a normal part of setting up a share: deciding what level of
    access those to whom it is shared will have.

    Easy there, 51. I was adding to your instructions for those in this
    group who keep saying they can't write to the Windows shared folder.

    Hi badgolferman,

    Thank you for adding value so that billions of people can do what most of them don't know how to do - some of whom are on this very newsgroup now.

    We want to always add value - so I appreciate that you explained how to get the SMB process to work so that people can copy a file from a PC to iOS.

    This is especially important to me because I generally test everything
    before I post but I can't test SMB as it doesn't work in my environment.

    One question I'd like you to clarify is whether you can do what people want to do, which Frank Slootweg also asked - and I concur it's very important.

    1. From the PC... (Windows or Linux but I think you're on Windows)
    2. Can you *initiate* that file/folder transfer from the PC over to iOS?

    Why does it matter where you initiate the transfer...

    ...I mean unless all you're really looking for is a meaningless "win"?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Apr 10 15:35:16 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-04-10 13:57, badgolferman wrote:
    Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 17:17:40 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    I had to modify the Windows shared folder security permissions to
    Read/Write in order to allow writing from the iPhone to the PC.

    And does that surprise you?

    That is a normal part of setting up a share: deciding what level of
    access those to whom it is shared will have.

    Easy there, 51. I was adding to your instructions for those in this
    group who keep saying they can't write to the Windows shared folder.

    Hi badgolferman,

    Thank you for adding value so that billions of people can do what most of
    them don't know how to do - some of whom are on this very newsgroup now.

    We want to always add value - so I appreciate that you explained how to get >> the SMB process to work so that people can copy a file from a PC to iOS.

    This is especially important to me because I generally test everything
    before I post but I can't test SMB as it doesn't work in my environment.

    One question I'd like you to clarify is whether you can do what people want >> to do, which Frank Slootweg also asked - and I concur it's very important. >>
    1. From the PC... (Windows or Linux but I think you're on Windows)
    2. Can you *initiate* that file/folder transfer from the PC over to iOS?


    No, I cannot. Only from the iPhone to the PC.


    Well of course.

    That's the way a file server and client relation works.

    The thing is that for two devices one has in one's possession, it
    doesn't matter if you can't push files from the server to the client...

    ...because you can PULL them.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Apr 10 23:31:21 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 20:57:54 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    One question I'd like you to clarify is whether you can do what people want >> to do, which Frank Slootweg also asked - and I concur it's very important. >>
    1. From the PC... (Windows or Linux but I think you're on Windows)
    2. Can you *initiate* that file/folder transfer from the PC over to iOS?


    No, I cannot. Only from the iPhone to the PC.

    Hmm... thanks for the reply but that's not what I asked but I do appreciate your response. May I clarify the question, since you tried it & I can't?

    The first question is whether you can sit at the PC (with the iOS device nowhere near you) and transfer the files while sitting at that PC.

    The reason I ask is that's what everyone wants to do and that's what works
    just fine for all the normal people (who are not Apple trolls, of course).

    The second question, no matter where you sit (so for this second question,
    it's OK to have the iOS device near you) is which direction did not work?

    Can a file from the PC be copied to the iOS device in your tests?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Apr 10 17:41:17 2025
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    On 2025-04-10 17:40, badgolferman wrote:
    Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 20:57:54 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    One question I'd like you to clarify is whether you can do what people want
    to do, which Frank Slootweg also asked - and I concur it's very important. >>>>
    1. From the PC... (Windows or Linux but I think you're on Windows)
    2. Can you *initiate* that file/folder transfer from the PC over to iOS? >>>>

    No, I cannot. Only from the iPhone to the PC.

    Hmm... thanks for the reply but that's not what I asked but I do appreciate >> your response. May I clarify the question, since you tried it & I can't?

    The first question is whether you can sit at the PC (with the iOS device
    nowhere near you) and transfer the files while sitting at that PC.

    The reason I ask is that's what everyone wants to do and that's what works >> just fine for all the normal people (who are not Apple trolls, of course). >>
    The second question, no matter where you sit (so for this second question, >> it's OK to have the iOS device near you) is which direction did not work?

    Can a file from the PC be copied to the iOS device in your tests?


    No, I cannot push or pull files from the PC to phone. I can only push or
    pull files from the phone to the PC.


    Or in other words, you can both move files to the PC and get files from
    the PC...

    ...in the exact manner the server/client connections have always worked.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Thu Apr 10 17:28:29 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-04-10 16:31, Marion wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 20:57:54 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    One question I'd like you to clarify is whether you can do what people want >>> to do, which Frank Slootweg also asked - and I concur it's very important. >>>
    1. From the PC... (Windows or Linux but I think you're on Windows)
    2. Can you *initiate* that file/folder transfer from the PC over to iOS? >>>

    No, I cannot. Only from the iPhone to the PC.

    Hmm... thanks for the reply but that's not what I asked but I do appreciate your response. May I clarify the question, since you tried it & I can't?

    The first question is whether you can sit at the PC (with the iOS device nowhere near you) and transfer the files while sitting at that PC.

    Why is that important other than for you to check some box about what
    iOS can't do?


    The reason I ask is that's what everyone wants to do and that's what works just fine for all the normal people (who are not Apple trolls, of course).

    You've not shown that anyone cares at all about that.


    The second question, no matter where you sit (so for this second question, it's OK to have the iOS device near you) is which direction did not work?

    And...

    ...that's not even English.


    Can a file from the PC be copied to the iOS device in your tests?

    Yes, duh!

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Apr 11 08:04:01 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 00:40:05 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    Can a file from the PC be copied to the iOS device in your tests?


    No, I cannot push or pull files from the PC to phone. I can only push or
    pull files from the phone to the PC.

    Thanks for clarifying that you can't sit at the PC to initiate the process.

    This is important because that's how everyone wants to do it, and, as
    evidence that people want to do it that way, it's how Android works native
    with the PC over USB & Wi-Fi, and it's how LocalSend works with iOS too!

    It's even how Linux works with iOS.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/qqg61Rh8/files05.jpg> Ubuntu moves *to* iOS on USB

    Since all the noise now is simply the Apple trolls complaining that the way everyone else does it already is, as always, to these Apple trolls...
    *(not needed)* and *(not wanted)*

    We can end the quest since we have a perfectly good working solution now.
    *Tutorial: How to send files from Windows to iOS over the LAN using LocalSend*
    <https://newsgrouper.org/alt.comp.os.windows-10/189078/0>
    <https://rec.photo.digital.narkive.com/C72eE4gc/tutorial-how-to-send-files-between-windows-ios-over-the-lan-using-localsend>
    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86116&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86116>

    Unless the Apple trolls can improve upon that solution, all they're doing
    by complaining that they can't improve upon that solution, is trolling.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Fri Apr 11 10:24:07 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-04-11 01:04, Marion wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 00:40:05 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    Can a file from the PC be copied to the iOS device in your tests?


    No, I cannot push or pull files from the PC to phone. I can only push or
    pull files from the phone to the PC.

    Thanks for clarifying that you can't sit at the PC to initiate the process.
    Thanks for showing everyone that all you want is a "win" where you can
    say that it doesn't work in some way that doesn't matter.

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