In article <nnd$549643c7$6fbb6e4e@1b875ad64c871ecb>,
Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> wrote:

On 25-11-2024 11:00, mhx wrote:

On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 5:24:37 +0000, dxf wrote:

On 23/11/2024 2:46 am, Buzz McCool wrote:

On 11/19/2024 9:48 AM, Buzz McCool wrote:

[..]

Is this still widely used? I ask since all the commits are over a
decade old.
...

AFAIK it was never widely used.  When the question as to why arose
on c.l.f, everyone had an excuse as to why it didn't suit them.

[..]

I use(d) the XML tools of the Forth Foundation Library two years
back. They were a delight to work with.

Normally, I don't use other people's code when I'm deeply
interested in the subject matter but in this case my daytime
job required it. I just wanted to get results, but still with
the option to completely understand the nuts and bolts.

-marcel

I've ported a couple of members from the FFL, but they're HUGE!
Over 600 lines for an XML library. For comparison: my 4tH preprocessor
is a 100 lines LESS!

I'm sure they're quite powerful, but often I just need some tools that
take the edge off. I'm capable enough to handle whatever comes myself.

So: >https://sourceforge.net/p/forth-4th/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/4th.src/lib/parsexml.4th

E.g. I used it in my "Kjots to Gnote" converter.. and at work at several >occasions.

My observation with arg.fs were the same. 500 lines versus 2 screens.

ciforth is sufficiently mainstream that I can port ffl to ciforth,
however it is a bit troublesome that it means to turn ciforth in
a fat forth loading virtually most of its library code.

I guess that is the price to pay to be in the company of swiftforth,
mpeforth and gforth.

Hans Bezemer

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In article <2b5b872a1b22c79c145835221089ab24@www.novabbs.com>,
mhx <mhx@iae.nl> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 5:24:37 +0000, dxf wrote:

On 23/11/2024 2:46 am, Buzz McCool wrote:

On 11/19/2024 9:48 AM, Buzz McCool wrote:

[..]

Is this still widely used? I ask since all the commits are over a
decade old.
...

AFAIK it was never widely used. When the question as to why arose
on c.l.f, everyone had an excuse as to why it didn't suit them.

[..]

I use(d) the XML tools of the Forth Foundation Library two years
back. They were a delight to work with.

Normally, I don't use other people's code when I'm deeply
interested in the subject matter but in this case my daytime
job required it. I just wanted to get results, but still with
the option to completely understand the nuts and bolts.

60 lines of code is a relatively huge investment.
Imagine that I have to do that using the arg stuff from ffl,
it saves loading an essentially two screen facility, 32 lines.
My calculation is not that I saved the time writing the 500
lines of code of arg.fs.

I hate the professional code attitude.
Instead of using 5 lines to explain what the module is all about,
it comes with a 30 lines copyright message up front.
If I must I tuck this message at the end.

-marcel

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