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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
Unlike many feature rich routers, the draytek has a sanely organised
user interface and the advanced features actually work...
High praise. Which Draytek router BTW? I had one a few years ago but it
was strangely broken and I eventually had to return it and as it was out
of production I just got a refund. I went with a fairly awful Mikrotik
until I got around to building my own from a PC Engines APU2 board.
I really like how Draytek puts a simulation of their web interface
online. Nothing like seeing it yourself, even if you can't really do
anything in the simulation.
On 17/09/2024 16:08, Scott Alfter wrote:
In article <vcbji2$3evhe$4@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Moral. Get a decent router so at least you can eliminate it from your
problems
Another recommendation: Look for something that can run OpenWRT, so you're >> not stuck with whatever firmware the router manufacturer provides.
A third recommendation: a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 and a carrier board >> that adds a second Ethernet port make a pretty good platform to run OpenWRT. >> The CPU and memory on the CM4 will blow the doors off of most of the routers >> you'd likely buy for home use, and I suspect they're competitive with nearly >> anything short of rack-mountable enterprise-grade routers. The onboard WiFi >> (on models so equipped) probably isn't so hot, but it's a solid option for >> wired connections up to at least gigabit speeds and WiFi can be provided
with a separate access point or a USB dongle.
Why a compute module especially?
Wouldn't e.g. a Pi4 be just as good?
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
Unlike many feature rich routers, the draytek has a sanely organised
user interface and the advanced features actually work...
High praise. Which Draytek router BTW? I had one a few years ago but it
was strangely broken and I eventually had to return it and as it was out
of production I just got a refund. I went with a fairly awful Mikrotik
until I got around to building my own from a PC Engines APU2 board.
I really like how Draytek puts a simulation of their web interface
online. Nothing like seeing it yourself, even if you can't really do
anything in the simulation.
In article <vcca63$3je29$3@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 17/09/2024 16:08, Scott Alfter wrote:
In article <vcbji2$3evhe$4@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Moral. Get a decent router so at least you can eliminate it from your
problems
Another recommendation: Look for something that can run OpenWRT, so you're >>> not stuck with whatever firmware the router manufacturer provides.
A third recommendation: a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 and a carrier board >>> that adds a second Ethernet port make a pretty good platform to run OpenWRT.
The CPU and memory on the CM4 will blow the doors off of most of the routers
you'd likely buy for home use, and I suspect they're competitive with nearly
anything short of rack-mountable enterprise-grade routers. The onboard WiFi
(on models so equipped) probably isn't so hot, but it's a solid option for >>> wired connections up to at least gigabit speeds and WiFi can be provided >>> with a separate access point or a USB dongle.
Why a compute module especially?
Wouldn't e.g. a Pi4 be just as good?
You're stuck with USB network adapters if you use a Pi 4. With a CM4, there are carrier boards that route the built-in Ethernet to one port and connect
a second port over PCIe. This is the one I use:
https://wiki.dfrobot.com/Compute_Module_4_IoT_Router_Board_Mini_SKU_DFR0767
bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
I am using Asus routers now which, by default, run a version of OpenWrt called AsusWrt. However, even better, is asuswrt-merlin which is easy
I've played with the idea of getting an open-wrt-compatible router in the
past, but dropped the idea after finding nothing suitable at the local
thrift store. Perhaps I should look again.
to install instead of Asuswrt and gives you all sorts of customisation
if you want.
Not all Asus routers can run Asuswrt-Merlin but there's a fair number
that can and many of them are available at very reasonable prices
secondhand on eBay or from such as CEX.
The user interface GUI is really nice (though quite complex because
there is so much that can be configured).
On 18/09/2024 19:22, Scott Alfter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:Given that few of us have internet connections over 100Mbps, that hardly >seems an issue
Why a compute module especially?
Wouldn't e.g. a Pi4 be just as good?
You're stuck with USB network adapters if you use a Pi 4. With a CM4, there >> are carrier boards that route the built-in Ethernet to one port and connect >> a second port over PCIe. This is the one I use:
Given that few of us have internet connections over 100Mbps, that hardly seems an issue
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:48:01 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Given that few of us have internet connections over 100Mbps, that hardly
seems an issue
I've had gigabit FTTH for a few years now - and I'm in rural
Ireland. I use an old PC running FreeBSD as a router/firewall, I've never liked commercial routers, using a proper OS is so much easier.
On 19/09/2024 17:51, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:48:01 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Given that few of us have internet connections over 100Mbps, that
hardly seems an issue
I've had gigabit FTTH for a few years now - and I'm in rural
Ireland. I use an old PC running FreeBSD as a router/firewall, I've
never liked commercial routers, using a proper OS is so much easier.
I picked the 'economy' package at 40/10 Mps
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 18:44:49 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 19/09/2024 17:51, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:48:01 +0100I picked the 'economy' package at 40/10 Mps
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Given that few of us have internet connections over 100Mbps, that
hardly seems an issue
I've had gigabit FTTH for a few years now - and I'm in rural
Ireland. I use an old PC running FreeBSD as a router/firewall, I've
never liked commercial routers, using a proper OS is so much easier.
Wow the only options on offer here are 500/50 or 1000/100 with the price increment for 1000/100 being minimal.
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 18:44:49 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 19/09/2024 17:51, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:48:01 +0100I picked the 'economy' package at 40/10 Mps
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Given that few of us have internet connections over 100Mbps, that
hardly seems an issue
I've had gigabit FTTH for a few years now - and I'm in rural
Ireland. I use an old PC running FreeBSD as a router/firewall, I've
never liked commercial routers, using a proper OS is so much easier.
Wow the only options on offer here are 500/50 or 1000/100 with the price increment for 1000/100 being minimal.
On 19/09/2024 19:10, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 18:44:49 +0100There are plenty of midspeed packages so switching from cable/VDSL to
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 19/09/2024 17:51, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:48:01 +0100I picked the 'economy' package at 40/10 Mps
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Given that few of us have internet connections over 100Mbps, that
hardly seems an issue
I've had gigabit FTTH for a few years now - and I'm in rural
Ireland. I use an old PC running FreeBSD as a router/firewall, I've
never liked commercial routers, using a proper OS is so much easier.
Wow the only options on offer here are 500/50 or 1000/100 with the >> price increment for 1000/100 being minimal.
fibre lets the ISPs sell you slow fibre for the same as VDSL etc.
I have a 20/130Mbps cable package. My road was fibred and the same
package was £17/month cheaper on fibre than cable. I could get moved to fibre and eventually move to 900/900Mbps. I moaned and moaned at the
cable provider (Virgin) and they price matched the cable to stop me leaving. I didn't have to change anything which suits a lazy sod like me.
I've recently set up an old Pi2 for use with a USB oscilloscope.
The scope software is point and click for the most part. Is there
some user interface trick to limp along using a mouse alone? Almost
no keyboard input is required, so it needn't be fast or easy.
An attempt to run raspi-config by copying the filename via the
file manager and pasting it into the "run command" dialog failed,
with neither error nor execution, though the "open" option did
start an editor. That was a surprise.
Thanks for reading and any suggestions.
There are plenty of midspeed packages so switching from cable/VDSL to
fibre lets the ISPs sell you slow fibre for the same as VDSL etc.
It won't take long until most ISPs will want to get rid of the double infrastructure VDSL/Fibre, it may happen soon that you will have to
switch to Fibre or end up with no phone/internet connectivity at all.
mm0fmf wrote:I don't have a wired phone or xDSL, I have cable, DOCSIS 3 of some kind.
There are plenty of midspeed packages so switching from cable/VDSL to
fibre lets the ISPs sell you slow fibre for the same as VDSL etc.
It won't take long until most ISPs will want to get rid of the double infrastructure VDSL/Fibre, it may happen soon that you will have to
switch to Fibre or end up with no phone/internet connectivity at all.
-jw-
On 19/09/2024 22:01, mm0fmf wrote:
On 19/09/2024 19:10, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:You mean you passed up an opportunity to leave Virgin and save money? Everyone I know who was on Virgin cable is now on something else.
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 18:44:49 +0100There are plenty of midspeed packages so switching from cable/VDSL to
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 19/09/2024 17:51, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:48:01 +0100I picked the 'economy' package at 40/10 Mps
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Given that few of us have internet connections over 100Mbps, that
hardly seems an issue
I've had gigabit FTTH for a few years now - and I'm in rural >>>>> Ireland. I use an old PC running FreeBSD as a router/firewall, I've
never liked commercial routers, using a proper OS is so much easier. >>>>>
Wow the only options on offer here are 500/50 or 1000/100 with the >>> price increment for 1000/100 being minimal.
fibre lets the ISPs sell you slow fibre for the same as VDSL etc.
I have a 20/130Mbps cable package. My road was fibred and the same
package was £17/month cheaper on fibre than cable. I could get moved
to fibre and eventually move to 900/900Mbps. I moaned and moaned at
the cable provider (Virgin) and they price matched the cable to stop
me leaving. I didn't have to change anything which suits a lazy sod
like me.
mm0fmf wrote:
There are plenty of midspeed packages so switching from cable/VDSL to
fibre lets the ISPs sell you slow fibre for the same as VDSL etc.
It won't take long until most ISPs will want to get rid of the double infrastructure VDSL/Fibre, it may happen soon that you will have to
switch to Fibre or end up with no phone/internet connectivity at all.
On 20/09/2024 09:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/2024 22:01, mm0fmf wrote:
I have a 20/130Mbps cable package. My road was fibred and theYou mean you passed up an opportunity to leave Virgin and save
same package was ú17/month cheaper on fibre than cable. I could
get moved to fibre and eventually move to 900/900Mbps. I moaned
and moaned at the cable provider (Virgin) and they price
matched the cable to stop me leaving. I didn't have to change
anything which suits a lazy sod like me.
money? Everyone I know who was on Virgin cable is now on
something else.
Well now you know someone who didn't.