• a desired feature for flips

    From bad sector@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 15:26:41 2025
    I want my flip to replace the bedside alarm clock when I'm resting. Open
    to about 75 degrees and turned away like some book-end so as to to show
    the cover screen inverted and toward the bed, with a low-power display
    showing time, weather, alarm and a time remaining slider. Don't want
    YAFA (yet another fucking app), just a feature.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to bad sector on Sat May 3 18:20:20 2025
    bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:

    I want my flip to replace the bedside alarm clock when I'm resting. Open
    to about 75 degrees and turned away like some book-end so as to to show
    the cover screen inverted and toward the bed, with a low-power display showing time, weather, alarm and a time remaining slider. Don't want
    YAFA (yet another fucking app), just a feature.

    No mention of which flip phone you have, but likely it does have an
    alarm feature which is likely a YAFA, or you could install another YAFA.
    Not sure why you want it open as the alarm should sound whether the
    phone is flipped [partially] open or flipped close. Maybe you want to
    see the cover screen, but then you'll be asleep, and when the phone
    alarm sounds you'll know the time.

    Your eyes must be sharper or younger than mine. My eyes couldn't focus
    on a tiny cover screen with my head in the middle of the bed on a
    pillow. I'd probably get a phone stand, so the phone could be fully
    flipped open to view the bigger inside/main screen. I don't wear
    eyeglasses to bed. Maybe you don't use them.

    Despite a low-power cover screen, you might have to leave the flip phone plugged into a power source during the night, or sitting on a wireless
    charging stand. Could be it runs out of power on just its battery, and
    you oversleep the alarm that never sounds to miss that morning meeting.

    Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 6: How to Add Alarm Widgets on the Cover Screen
    (Android 14)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHDH40vECeI

    That guy shows adding an alarm widget to the cover screen. Looks like
    there would be room to add a weather widget, too. As for a slider
    counting down the remaining screen, that sounds more like a countdown
    timer function. Phones with alarms often also have a timers. If you
    mentioned your brand and model of flip phone, someone else also using it
    might check what widgets you could add to the cover screen.

    Were you looking for phone brand and model suggestions, or just opining?

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  • From bad sector@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Sun May 4 07:08:07 2025
    On 5/3/25 19:20, VanguardLH wrote:
    bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:

    I want my flip to replace the bedside alarm clock when I'm resting. Open
    to about 75 degrees and turned away like some book-end so as to to show
    the cover screen inverted and toward the bed, with a low-power display
    showing time, weather, alarm and a time remaining slider. Don't want
    YAFA (yet another fucking app), just a feature.

    No mention of which flip phone you have, but likely it does have an
    alarm feature which is likely a YAFA, or you could install another YAFA.
    Not sure why you want it open as the alarm should sound whether the
    phone is flipped [partially] open or flipped close. Maybe you want to
    see the cover screen, but then you'll be asleep, and when the phone
    alarm sounds you'll know the time.

    Your eyes must be sharper or younger than mine. My eyes couldn't focus
    on a tiny cover screen with my head in the middle of the bed on a
    pillow. I'd probably get a phone stand, so the phone could be fully
    flipped open to view the bigger inside/main screen. I don't wear
    eyeglasses to bed. Maybe you don't use them.

    Despite a low-power cover screen, you might have to leave the flip phone plugged into a power source during the night, or sitting on a wireless charging stand. Could be it runs out of power on just its battery, and
    you oversleep the alarm that never sounds to miss that morning meeting.

    Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 6: How to Add Alarm Widgets on the Cover Screen (Android 14)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHDH40vECeI

    That guy shows adding an alarm widget to the cover screen. Looks like
    there would be room to add a weather widget, too. As for a slider
    counting down the remaining screen, that sounds more like a countdown
    timer function. Phones with alarms often also have a timers. If you mentioned your brand and model of flip phone, someone else also using it might check what widgets you could add to the cover screen.

    Were you looking for phone brand and model suggestions, or just opining?

    1st reply got lost in Thunderbird's incomplete transmission fubar.


    Flip-Z-5

    I just want to replace my bedside clock with the phone, that's all,
    mostly for the time display in huge characters and not requiring me to
    lift my head to eyeball a display lying flat on its back. It's more than
    a doable 'bedside mode' the way I see it:

    - inverted low-power cover-screen only display
    - cpu asleep except once every so many (5?) minutes

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to bad sector on Sun May 4 13:08:20 2025
    bad sector wrote:

    I want my flip to replace the bedside alarm clock when I'm resting. Open
    to about 75 degrees and turned away like some book-end so as to to show
    the cover screen inverted and toward the bed, with a low-power display showing time, weather, alarm and a time remaining slider. Don't want
    YAFA (yet another fucking app), just a feature.

    You do realise that "features" of a phone are "just apps", eating up
    some of the same flash, likely being impossible to remove and unlikely
    to ever get updates ... right?

    Google makes a nightstand for Pixel phones, and an app that turns it
    into a sort-of alarm clock while charging. I have a Gen1 Nest Hub as my
    "alarm clock replacement" it has various clock faces, the largest using
    digits ~35mm, I suspect it could have used 45mm if it tried, but good
    enough for me to read without reaching for glasses.

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  • From bad sector@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun May 4 10:48:48 2025
    On 5/4/25 08:08, Andy Burns wrote:
    bad sector wrote:

    I want my flip to replace the bedside alarm clock when I'm resting.
    Open to about 75 degrees and turned away like some book-end so as to
    to show the cover screen inverted and toward the bed, with a low-power
    display showing time, weather, alarm and a time remaining slider.
    Don't want YAFA (yet another fucking app), just a feature.

    You do realise that "features" of a phone are "just apps", eating up
    some of the same flash, likely being impossible to remove and unlikely
    to ever get updates ... right?

    Google makes a nightstand for Pixel phones, and an app that turns it
    into a sort-of alarm clock while charging.  I have a Gen1 Nest Hub as my "alarm clock replacement" it has various clock faces, the largest using digits ~35mm, I suspect it could have used 45mm if it tried, but good
    enough for me to read without reaching for glasses.


    Well, sure, in the end everything that gives a $2 chinese chip some code
    to execute is either an instruction or an instruction set. Not too long
    ago the word app didn't even exist, I still don't see why it does but I
    do have a healthy aversion to 3rd part anything :-) I certainly envy
    those 35mm digits though, wish my electronics bay under the TV had
    nothing but that variety instead of 4mm dark blue under smoked plexiglass!

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to bad sector on Sun May 4 10:52:24 2025
    bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:

    On 5/3/25 19:20, VanguardLH wrote:
    bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:

    I want my flip to replace the bedside alarm clock when I'm resting. Open >>> to about 75 degrees and turned away like some book-end so as to to show
    the cover screen inverted and toward the bed, with a low-power display
    showing time, weather, alarm and a time remaining slider. Don't want
    YAFA (yet another fucking app), just a feature.

    No mention of which flip phone you have, but likely it does have an
    alarm feature which is likely a YAFA, or you could install another YAFA.
    Not sure why you want it open as the alarm should sound whether the
    phone is flipped [partially] open or flipped close. Maybe you want to
    see the cover screen, but then you'll be asleep, and when the phone
    alarm sounds you'll know the time.

    Your eyes must be sharper or younger than mine. My eyes couldn't focus
    on a tiny cover screen with my head in the middle of the bed on a
    pillow. I'd probably get a phone stand, so the phone could be fully
    flipped open to view the bigger inside/main screen. I don't wear
    eyeglasses to bed. Maybe you don't use them.

    Despite a low-power cover screen, you might have to leave the flip phone
    plugged into a power source during the night, or sitting on a wireless
    charging stand. Could be it runs out of power on just its battery, and
    you oversleep the alarm that never sounds to miss that morning meeting.

    Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 6: How to Add Alarm Widgets on the Cover Screen
    (Android 14)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHDH40vECeI

    That guy shows adding an alarm widget to the cover screen. Looks like
    there would be room to add a weather widget, too. As for a slider
    counting down the remaining screen, that sounds more like a countdown
    timer function. Phones with alarms often also have a timers. If you
    mentioned your brand and model of flip phone, someone else also using it
    might check what widgets you could add to the cover screen.

    Were you looking for phone brand and model suggestions, or just opining?

    1st reply got lost in Thunderbird's incomplete transmission fubar.

    Flip-Z-5

    I just want to replace my bedside clock with the phone, that's all,
    mostly for the time display in huge characters and not requiring me to
    lift my head to eyeball a display lying flat on its back. It's more than
    a doable 'bedside mode' the way I see it:

    - inverted low-power cover-screen only display
    - cpu asleep except once every so many (5?) minutes

    I don't know if the cover screen can be inverted. If not, you could
    open the phone to about 75 degrees, and prop it up on the table somewhat
    in a pyramid shape (tips on table, hinge in the air). To keep the phone
    from falling flat, you might need something to bolster the tips of the
    phone sitting on the table, like self-stick rubber feet, or a phone
    stand laid flat that has rubber bumpers to keep the phone on the stand.

    Since the Galaxy Z Flip has wireless charging, and with a charger
    sitting on your bedside table, will the phone charge when closed, and
    upside down on the charger stand? If so, the charger stand should have
    the phone angled up, like at 75 degrees. If you have a wireless charger
    that sits flat on the table, you could get a different one that has the wireless charge sit upright.

    In the Youtube video I cited, you can put an alarm widget on the cover
    screen. I doubt it can be inverted, but then don't invert the phone on
    the upright wireless charger.

    https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/mobile-devices/explore-new-cover-screen-widgets-on-the-galaxy-z-flip5/

    That shows how to add widgets. In the list of widgets you can add to
    the cover screen, and match on your wish list: weather, alarm,
    stopwatch, timer. There are probably more by scrolling the list. The
    alarm widget gives you the alarm you want. The timer widget might have
    a countdown option. There is the weather widget. Whether all those
    widgets fit on the cover screen is something you'll have to determine,
    and if they can be enlarged to be readable from your head on the pillow
    to the phone on the bedside table. You would have to check the config
    of the widget to see if it will display upside-down, but you can
    probably sit the phone right-side-up on an upright charger stand.

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  • From bad sector@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Sun May 4 15:49:41 2025
    On 5/4/25 11:52, VanguardLH wrote:
    bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:

    On 5/3/25 19:20, VanguardLH wrote:
    bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:

    I want my flip to replace the bedside alarm clock when I'm resting. Open >>>> to about 75 degrees and turned away like some book-end so as to to show >>>> the cover screen inverted and toward the bed, with a low-power display >>>> showing time, weather, alarm and a time remaining slider. Don't want
    YAFA (yet another fucking app), just a feature.

    No mention of which flip phone you have, but likely it does have an
    alarm feature which is likely a YAFA, or you could install another YAFA. >>> Not sure why you want it open as the alarm should sound whether the
    phone is flipped [partially] open or flipped close. Maybe you want to
    see the cover screen, but then you'll be asleep, and when the phone
    alarm sounds you'll know the time.

    Your eyes must be sharper or younger than mine. My eyes couldn't focus
    on a tiny cover screen with my head in the middle of the bed on a
    pillow. I'd probably get a phone stand, so the phone could be fully
    flipped open to view the bigger inside/main screen. I don't wear
    eyeglasses to bed. Maybe you don't use them.

    Despite a low-power cover screen, you might have to leave the flip phone >>> plugged into a power source during the night, or sitting on a wireless
    charging stand. Could be it runs out of power on just its battery, and
    you oversleep the alarm that never sounds to miss that morning meeting.

    Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 6: How to Add Alarm Widgets on the Cover Screen
    (Android 14)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHDH40vECeI

    That guy shows adding an alarm widget to the cover screen. Looks like
    there would be room to add a weather widget, too. As for a slider
    counting down the remaining screen, that sounds more like a countdown
    timer function. Phones with alarms often also have a timers. If you
    mentioned your brand and model of flip phone, someone else also using it >>> might check what widgets you could add to the cover screen.

    Were you looking for phone brand and model suggestions, or just opining?

    1st reply got lost in Thunderbird's incomplete transmission fubar.

    Flip-Z-5

    I just want to replace my bedside clock with the phone, that's all,
    mostly for the time display in huge characters and not requiring me to
    lift my head to eyeball a display lying flat on its back. It's more than
    a doable 'bedside mode' the way I see it:

    - inverted low-power cover-screen only display
    - cpu asleep except once every so many (5?) minutes

    I don't know if the cover screen can be inverted. If not, you could
    open the phone to about 75 degrees, and prop it up on the table somewhat
    in a pyramid shape (tips on table, hinge in the air). To keep the phone
    from falling flat, you might need something to bolster the tips of the
    phone sitting on the table, like self-stick rubber feet, or a phone
    stand laid flat that has rubber bumpers to keep the phone on the stand.

    Since the Galaxy Z Flip has wireless charging, and with a charger
    sitting on your bedside table, will the phone charge when closed, and
    upside down on the charger stand? If so, the charger stand should have
    the phone angled up, like at 75 degrees. If you have a wireless charger
    that sits flat on the table, you could get a different one that has the wireless charge sit upright.

    In the Youtube video I cited, you can put an alarm widget on the cover screen. I doubt it can be inverted, but then don't invert the phone on
    the upright wireless charger.

    https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/mobile-devices/explore-new-cover-screen-widgets-on-the-galaxy-z-flip5/

    That shows how to add widgets. In the list of widgets you can add to
    the cover screen, and match on your wish list: weather, alarm,
    stopwatch, timer. There are probably more by scrolling the list. The
    alarm widget gives you the alarm you want. The timer widget might have
    a countdown option. There is the weather widget. Whether all those
    widgets fit on the cover screen is something you'll have to determine,
    and if they can be enlarged to be readable from your head on the pillow
    to the phone on the bedside table. You would have to check the config
    of the widget to see if it will display upside-down, but you can
    probably sit the phone right-side-up on an upright charger stand.

    Your idea to use the inverted V instead of the bookend position is a
    good one. Tested it, should be good so long as the hinge friction holds.
    The longest cover-screen timeout is 30 seconds, I'd still like that
    extended to always-ON to see how long the charge can keep it. Don't want
    to have to depend on a charger, the charge holds for several hours with
    a load like hotspot on and in use, that's probably indicative by being
    maybe 1/10th of what's possible.

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