• Need Info on spam blocking app for cell phones

    From sam@invalid.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 28 15:57:24 2025
    What is the app many people have on their cell phones that requires a
    caller to tap in two numbers in order to have the other party answer?

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to sam@invalid.com on Mon Apr 28 16:31:18 2025
    <sam@invalid.com> wrote:

    What is the app many people have on their cell phones that requires a
    caller to tap in two numbers in order to have the other party answer?

    You sure you aren't asking about call screening which is a feature of
    the telco/cellular service provider?

    You didn't mention which phone app you use, or which phone you have.

    https://support.google.com/phoneapp/answer/9118387?hl=en https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-screen-calls-on-your-android-phone-and-stop-the-spam-deluge/

    That's discussing Google's Phone app, but we don't know if you're using
    a Google phone, or something else but installed Google's Phone app.

    I don't have a Google phone nor use Google's Phone app. I do use Google
    Voice to call all my phones when callers call my published phone number.
    Google Voice lets me screen calls. If the caller is no in my Contacts,
    they are prompted to say their name to announce who they are. When my
    phone rings, I can hear what they said, and press 1 to accept the call,
    or decline or let it go to voicemail. This setup has *me* decide when
    my phone rings for a non-contact caller. An unknown caller doesn't get
    to decide if and when my phone rings. Google Voice has spam filtering.
    I rarely get spam calls. I mostly get wrong-number callers, but often
    they hear the call screen prompt to leave their name and then they
    leave, or they get moved to voicemail, hear the outgoing message, and
    hang up without even saying Sorry.

    Other than your carrier providing a call screening option, and perhaps
    with spam filtering, looks like you'd be looking at alternate
    phone/dialer apps since those are what pickup the call on your phone.
    There's Google's at:

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.dialer

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Apr 28 17:00:57 2025
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:31:18 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
    <sam@invalid.com> wrote:

    What is the app many people have on their cell phones that requires a caller to tap in two numbers in order to have the other party answer?

    You sure you aren't asking about call screening which is a feature of
    the telco/cellular service provider?

    Or a feature of Android. Call Screening is on my Pixel phone, and
    from the descriptive text in its settings I'm pretty sure this is not
    something from my provider, Visible.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Tue Apr 29 01:22:40 2025
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    <sam@invalid.com> wrote:

    What is the app many people have on their cell phones that requires a
    caller to tap in two numbers in order to have the other party answer?

    You sure you aren't asking about call screening which is a feature of
    the telco/cellular service provider?

    Or a feature of Android. Call Screening is on my Pixel phone, and
    from the descriptive text in its settings I'm pretty sure this is not something from my provider, Visible.

    It isn't a feature of Google's Phone app?

    https://support.google.com/phoneapp/answer/9118387?hl=en

    That mentions configuring their Phone /app/ regarding call screening.
    Pixel phones come bundled with Google's Phone app.

    Call screening by an app on your phone does not obviate a call screening feature with your cellular service. I have call screening with Google
    Voice. That's a server-side feature. There is no call screening
    feature in my Android nor do I have a phone app with call screening.
    Google Voice handles that for me. So, my PBX provider atop my cellular provider has call screening.

    Ooma, an alternative to Google Voice, also has a call screening feature
    which is identical to how it works with Google Voice, but I didn't have
    to pay for a Plus feature as it is included in free Google Voice.

    https://support.ooma.com/office/call-screening-overview/

    https://www.visible.com/help/plan-features

    Doesn't list a call screening feature at Visible, a division of Verizon.
    If call screening isn't an option with your cellular provider, and you
    don't want to incorporate a PBX-like service (e.g., Google Voice, Ooma)
    then you can use an app on your phone with call screening. Google's
    Phone app has it, and probably why you have it (a feature of their Phone
    app, not of their Android OS).

    If I search Google's Play store on "call screen", all the candidates are phone/dialer apps.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Tue Apr 29 20:21:56 2025
    On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 01:22:40 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    <sam@invalid.com> wrote:

    What is the app many people have on their cell phones that requires a
    caller to tap in two numbers in order to have the other party answer?

    You sure you aren't asking about call screening which is a feature of
    the telco/cellular service provider?

    Or a feature of Android. Call Screening is on my Pixel phone, and
    from the descriptive text in its settings I'm pretty sure this is not something from my provider, Visible.

    It isn't a feature of Google's Phone app?

    Maybe I wasn't clear enough. It's _not_ a feature of my
    "telco/cellular service provider", yet I still have it through
    Android, or more specifically through the Phone app.

    Call screening by an app on your phone does not obviate a call screening feature with your cellular service.

    Sure, but that statement is not equivalent to "the only way to get
    call screening is through your 'telco/cellular service provider'."

    You replied to (I think) the OP with "call screening which is a
    feature of the telco/cellular service provider". I was just pointing
    out that there is at least one more source of that feature. Given how
    hard many cell service providers are to deal with, it seems that
    people who want call screening would want to know it's worth looking
    for in their Phone app. As you point out, it would have been more
    helpful if I had said "phone app" instead of the vaguer "Android."

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Wed Apr 30 00:19:35 2025
    Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    You replied to (I think) the OP with "call screening which is a
    feature of the telco/cellular service provider". I was just pointing
    out that there is at least one more source of that feature. Given how
    hard many cell service providers are to deal with, it seems that
    people who want call screening would want to know it's worth looking
    for in their Phone app. As you point out, it would have been more
    helpful if I had said "phone app" instead of the vaguer "Android."

    Okay, I could've said "Call screening could be a feature of your
    cellular carrier." I did mention how call screening can be performed
    upstream from the phone, and I mentioned looking at phone apps
    specifically mentioning the Google Phone app.

    - Call screening /could/ be a feature of your cellular service.
    - Call screening can be done upstream (e.g., Google Voice, Ooma).
    - Call screening can be done in a phone/dialer app.

    There's more scenarios than I thought of back then, like:

    - Configuring all calls to go to voicemail which will push off lots of
    spammers or wrong-dial callers. If you recognized their phone number
    or it was matched to a contact, or you monitor the call while the
    caller is sent to voicemail, you could choose to pickup while they
    were leaving a message to effectively take the call. You interrupt
    them doing voicemail.

    - Assign a loud ring tone to your contacts. Use a global ring tone that
    is silent, or very quiet. You'll hear your contacts when they call.
    Non-contact callers are muted, and get sent to voicemail.

    I used the last scenario (different ring tones) until the Google Voice
    app no longer supported multiple ring tones on my old Android 8 phone.

    With more time, and motivation, I and others could probably come up with
    more solutions. If the OP wanted to know only about an app to do call screening, my response was he will likely have to use a different phone
    app, like Google's. So far, no one else has suggested a replacement
    phone app, but then maybe whatever phone app the OP is already using has
    call screening. He didn't mention the brand and model of his phone, or
    which phone app he is already using.

    What I don't know is of a phone app that picks up a call, and does not
    ring the phone until after the caller enters a 2-digit CAPTCHA.
    Technically that has the app take the phone off-hook (connect to the
    call) at the callee's end. That would delay and nuisance all callers.
    Google Voice's call screening nuisances all callers except those in my contacts. If a contact calls me, they don't get the prompt to say their
    name, they'll be identified as the caller, and their call goes straight
    through without delay.

    Even good callers might decide not to bother completing the call when
    prompted to say their name, or enter a 2-digit CAPTCHA. They're not
    expecting to get screwed, er, screened. A good phone app with call
    screening should have an option to not screen callers who are contacts. However, I get a lot of good calls that are not from my contacts.

    Another problem with screening is robocallers won't know how to respond.
    If I'm expecting an appointment confirmation call from my ISP scheduled
    to come to my house to resolve a problem, I try to get the tech to add a
    note to the call ticket that the repair guy must call me. Their
    robocaller won't get through the screening. The robocaller starts
    yakking as soon as the phone app picks up the call, I can hear the first
    part of what it said, but by the time I realize it is the ISP's
    robocaller for an appointment that I want, it's too late to hit "1" to
    confirm that I'm at home waiting for the repair guy. Their system
    cancels the appointment because their robocaller didn't get a response
    from me soon enough after my phone app picked up the call. A robocaller doesn't know it is supposed to identify itself, and wait for me to
    pickup the call. It just prattles on behaving like I must be be a
    robocallee that is constantly monitoring my calls to immediately pickup
    all calls to respond with a confirmation, so their robocaller ends up cancelling the appointment.

    Call screening gets rid of lots of spam calls, survey calls, nuisance
    calls, and wrong-dial calls, but it has its failings, too. Screens on
    the windows keep out the bugs, but also slows the fresh air from blowing
    into your house.

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