• Re: OT: spam phone calls

    From AJL@21:1/5 to Davey on Mon Apr 28 18:59:55 2025
    On 4/28/25 11:13 AM, Davey wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:33:17 +0100
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:16:48 +0100
    JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 09/04/2025 11:45, Davey wrote:
    The one calling site that leaves a message is the one that claims
    to be from some charge card company, and tells me that there are
    two charges on the card, from businesses that I do not use.


    But never say which card!




    Well, no, that would be too much information! It is always the same
    message, with the same charges.
    I have recently had a spate of: "Your package is ready for
    pickup..." e-mail messages, and a couple of the "Thank you for
    renewing your Norton 360 subscription." ones. Since I have been
    exclusively a Linux user since 2010, that is well out of date!


    Yup, the Norton one I receive also. I am on Linux as well, and have
    also been since 2010.

    Somehow I got my Chromebook browser completely locked up saying I had a
    virus and to contact xxxx to get rid of it. However since it said it was a
    Windows 11 virus I wasn't too worried. But I was surprised that it was able
    to lock up the Chromebook completely so that I had to reboot it to recover.
    Perhaps Chrome stuff is not really as safe as advertised...

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to AJL on Tue Apr 29 18:37:08 2025
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 4/28/25 11:13 AM, Davey wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:33:17 +0100
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:16:48 +0100
    JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 09/04/2025 11:45, Davey wrote:
    The one calling site that leaves a message is the one that claims
    to be from some charge card company, and tells me that there are
    two charges on the card, from businesses that I do not use.


    But never say which card!




    Well, no, that would be too much information! It is always the same
    message, with the same charges.
    I have recently had a spate of: "Your package is ready for
    pickup..." e-mail messages, and a couple of the "Thank you for
    renewing your Norton 360 subscription." ones. Since I have been
    exclusively a Linux user since 2010, that is well out of date!


    Yup, the Norton one I receive also. I am on Linux as well, and have
    also been since 2010.

    Somehow I got my Chromebook browser completely locked up saying I had a
    virus and to contact xxxx to get rid of it. However since it said it was a
    Windows 11 virus I wasn't too worried. But I was surprised that it was able
    to lock up the Chromebook completely so that I had to reboot it to recover.
    Perhaps Chrome stuff is not really as safe as advertised...

    We had something like that in 2019 on my wife's laptop, in which a
    full page web page "Your system is infected with 3 viruses" seemed to
    have locked up the (Windows 8.1) computer. However it turned out that Ctrl-Alt-Del could still access Task Manager and Task Manager could End
    the offending process.

    The page had a Microsoft logo and "Windows" in the text, but no
    Windows version. It also had 'Scan Now' and 'Press OK to begin the
    repair process'. For some strange reason, I never tried those buttons.

    Of course there was no virus and it wasn't even a get-money/ransomware
    thing, more an ads things.

    According to my notes, the main culprit was rackcdn.com.

    I found the 'official' term for a thing like this, malvertising.

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  • From AJL@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Tue Apr 29 21:49:08 2025
    On 4/29/25 11:37 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

    Somehow I got my Chromebook browser completely locked up saying I had a
    virus and to contact xxxx to get rid of it. However since it said it was a >> Windows 11 virus I wasn't too worried. But I was surprised that it was able >> to lock up the Chromebook completely so that I had to reboot it to recover. >> Perhaps Chrome stuff is not really as safe as advertised...

    We had something like that in 2019 on my wife's laptop, in which a
    full page web page "Your system is infected with 3 viruses" seemed to
    have locked up the (Windows 8.1) computer.

    My wife's current desktop (HP 23" Envy Touchsmart bought in 2014) is also
    using Windows 8 and still works great.

    However it turned out that
    Ctrl-Alt-Del could still access Task Manager and Task Manager could End
    the offending process.

    I remember years ago having a Windows browser locked up by a similar scam
    but IIRC not the whole machine. I tried everything I could think of on the
    Chromebook with no luck. I was frankly (no pun intended) surprised that
    Google actually had let me down...

    The page had a Microsoft logo and "Windows" in the text, but no
    Windows version. It also had 'Scan Now' and 'Press OK to begin the
    repair process'. For some strange reason, I never tried those buttons
    Of course there was no virus and it wasn't even a get-money/ransomware
    thing, more an ads things.

    I try to never take chances. I never click the link on suspected scams,
    browser or texts etc. Paranoia perhaps...

    According to my notes, the main culprit was rackcdn.com.
    I found the 'official' term for a thing like this, malvertising.

    Hadn't heard that before. Appropriate though.

    -Subject change-

    Got this new Pixel tablet toy with Android 15. It won't let me sideload my
    old Groundhog newsreader so I'm stuck with this PhoNews which is a PITA
    when reading. I can't find any other Usenet readers (not downloaders) in
    the Play Store. Wonder if anybody knows of any? I'm not sure if I'm ready
    for sideloading from outside the store for security reasons but will listen
    to all suggestions...

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to AJL on Wed Apr 30 14:43:17 2025
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 4/29/25 11:37 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    [...]
    We had something like that in 2019 on my wife's laptop, in which a
    full page web page "Your system is infected with 3 viruses" seemed to
    have locked up the (Windows 8.1) computer.
    [...]
    However it turned out that
    Ctrl-Alt-Del could still access Task Manager and Task Manager could End
    the offending process.
    [...]
    The page had a Microsoft logo and "Windows" in the text, but no
    Windows version. It also had 'Scan Now' and 'Press OK to begin the
    repair process'. For some strange reason, I never tried those buttons
    Of course there was no virus and it wasn't even a get-money/ransomware >thing, more an ads things.

    I try to never take chances. I never click the link on suspected scams,
    browser or texts etc. Paranoia perhaps...

    Sorry, that was apparently too tongue in cheek. (Of course) I didn't
    try those buttons. I'm Dutch, but I'm not *that* stupid! :-)

    [...]

    -Subject change-

    Got this new Pixel tablet toy with Android 15. It won't let me sideload my
    old Groundhog newsreader so I'm stuck with this PhoNews which is a PITA
    when reading. I can't find any other Usenet readers (not downloaders) in
    the Play Store. Wonder if anybody knows of any? I'm not sure if I'm ready
    for sideloading from outside the store for security reasons but will listen
    to all suggestions...

    Can't you sideload that particular app/APK or can't you sideload at
    all?

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  • From AJL@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Wed Apr 30 16:39:38 2025
    On 4/30/25 7:43 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

    Got this new Pixel tablet toy with Android 15. It won't let me sideload my >> old Groundhog newsreader so I'm stuck with this PhoNews which is a PITA
    when reading. I can't find any other Usenet readers (not downloaders) in
    the Play Store. Wonder if anybody knows of any? I'm not sure if I'm ready >> for sideloading from outside the store for security reasons but will listen >> to all suggestions...

    Can't you sideload that particular app/APK or can't you sideload at
    all?

    When I try to sideload the Groundhog apk it first gives me a virus warning.
    When I say go ahead anyway it then says the app won't run on this device. I
    guess I wasn't all that surprised since Groundhog stopped transmitting
    around Android 9 and this Pixel is running Android 15. In my older toys
    (and current Galaxy S10+ phone) I can use Groundhog for reading and just
    switch to PhoNews for replies. (PhoNews requires each post read to be
    downloaded separately, A 3 to 5 second wait EACH, thus my annoyance.) But
    so far as I've said I've been unable to find an Android Groundhog/PhoNews
    replacement. Perhaps there's not enough old men left on Usenet to make to
    make development worthwhile... 8-O

    For anyone contemplating a Pixel tablet I have only 2 complaints. No
    headphone hole and no SD slot. Otherwise it works great...

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  • From AJL@21:1/5 to Siard on Wed Apr 30 22:00:07 2025
    On 4/30/25 2:24 PM, Siard wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 16:39 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote:
    When I try to sideload the Groundhog apk it first gives me a virus warning. >> When I say go ahead anyway it then says the app won't run on this device.
    I guess I wasn't all that surprised since Groundhog stopped transmitting
    around Android 9 and this Pixel is running Android 15.

    I managed to sideload Groundhog (and several other old apps) on Android 14, >here's how:
    https://liliputing.com/how-to-install-old-apps-on-android-14/

    Interesting. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks.

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  • From Siard@21:1/5 to AJL on Wed Apr 30 23:24:19 2025
    On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 16:39 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote:
    When I try to sideload the Groundhog apk it first gives me a virus warning. When I say go ahead anyway it then says the app won't run on this device.
    I guess I wasn't all that surprised since Groundhog stopped transmitting around Android 9 and this Pixel is running Android 15.

    I managed to sideload Groundhog (and several other old apps) on Android 14, here's how:
    https://liliputing.com/how-to-install-old-apps-on-android-14/

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  • From AJL@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 13 18:05:46 2025
    On Tue, 13 May 2025 22:52:51 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 9/04/2025 4:55 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:

    Currently, I find that most (not all) junk calls have the caller ID
    NAME the same as the number.

    WHAT?? So it looks like the Caller is phoning the Caller?? Really??
    That'd be a bit of a Give-away, wouldn't it?? ;-)

    IIRC these calls were successful at getting picked up because of recipient
    curiosity. They were quite common here (AZ US) for awhile and actually had
    newspaper warnings advising folks not to pick them up...

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to AJL on Tue May 13 19:33:28 2025
    AJL <noemail@none.com> writes:

    On Tue, 13 May 2025 22:52:51 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 9/04/2025 4:55 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:

    Currently, I find that most (not all) junk calls have the caller ID
    NAME the same as the number.

    WHAT?? So it looks like the Caller is phoning the Caller?? Really??
    That'd be a bit of a Give-away, wouldn't it?? ;-)

    IIRC these calls were successful at getting picked up because of
    recipient curiosity. They were quite common here (AZ US) for awhile
    and actually had newspaper warnings advising folks not to pick them
    up...

    I used to get my own number appearing if someone sent a text message to
    my phone. It would ring, showing my number, and when I answered it a
    computer would read out the text. So, maybe people answer it thinking it
    is a text message.

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