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I have a motorola g100. Today, while I was typing a message, it froze totally. On the keyboard, where there should be letter M, there was a
large circle with a dot at the bottom and three dots under that.
No phone function worked, and it took several tries to turn the phone off.
I was then able to restart it.
I also tried sticking a paper clip into the small hole at the top, which I thought is for a reset, but no good there either.
What would do this?
I have a motorola g100. Today, while I was typing a message, it froze totally. On the keyboard, where there should be letter M, there was a
large circle with a dot at the bottom and three dots under that.
No phone function worked, and it took several tries to turn the phone off.
I was then able to restart it.
I also tried sticking a paper clip into the small hole at the top, which I thought is for a reset, but no good there either.
What would do this?
db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
What would do this?
An app. Look at what you've installed. You might find a lot of them, especially if you used them only once or twice over a long time, are no longer needed, or there are non-adware apps to do the same thing.
db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
This phone combine the Power button and fingerprint reader. The problem
with that design is sometime you are trying to power off the phone, but
it instead thinks you are trying to scan your fingerprint.
Another
design defect is using the Power button to sleep the phone. You want to power off, but as you withdraw your finger then it thinks you want to
come out of sleep mode.
I have the same setup on my LG phone. Although
I have 8 fingerprints recorded, seems the first one (right index finger)
is the one more likely to get the Power button to work as a power button instead of trying to scan my finger or to go on/out of sleep mode. It
may help to go into the Android setting to General -> Lock -> Power key instantly locks to turn that off. Another option under the fingerprint options is to enable/disable using the fingerprint scanner to unlock the phone. Quite often I press the Power button to unlock, but it
immediately relocks as I'm drawing away my finger, so I have to press
and release the Power button VERY quickly to unlock. Still a bit flaky,
but not as much. I have to apply and hold my finger until the buzz ends
for recognizing my finger, and then slow press in the Power button to
lock. To unlock, I have to press the Power button very quickly (press
and withdraw fast) to unlock; else, it thinks it is supposed to relock
right after unlocking. Next phone I get will have the fingerprint
scanner under the front glass instead of combined with the Power button.
I also tried sticking a paper clip into the small hole at the top, which I >> thought is for a reset, but no good there either.
My guess is you stabbed the headphone jack.
https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g100-10791.php
Says it has a 3.5 mm [headphone] jack. That's disappeared in a lot of
newer phones forcing you to switch to Bluetooth headsets. Carlos' guess
was a mic port, but I think that would be too small for a paper clip
unless it was a thin mini-clip.
There is no recessed Reset button in any cell phone I've ever seen. It's
a phone, not a router or cable modem.
What would do this?
An app. Look at what you've installed. You might find a lot of them, especially if you used them only once or twice over a long time, are no longer needed, or there are non-adware apps to do the same thing.
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
What would do this?
An app. Look at what you've installed. You might find a lot of them,
especially if you used them only once or twice over a long time, are no
longer needed, or there are non-adware apps to do the same thing.
A while ago, Google introduced a "security" feature in their Play Store
app that will remove permissions from apps (auto-reset permissions) that
have not been used in a long time. I had to go into the Play Store app
(your profile pic icon -> Play Protect -> App Privacy -> Auto-remove Off
and go to each app to disable auto-reset. There is no global option to disable it for all apps. If you install a new app, yep, you have to
revisit Play Protect's privacy settings for the new app to remove
auto-reset.
https://chromeunboxed.com/google-can-now-auto-disable-permissons-from-risky-android-apps/
If you permit Google to automatically expire permissions on apps, and
you run the app later, you'll get the same set of prompts regarding permissions as when you installed the app, or when you first used it.
But you'll have to remember which permissions you originally allowed,
and which you did not. Play Protect tells which permissions it removed,
so you could re-add those permissions, and then disable auto-remove for
that app. I would prefer a global option that completely disables auto-remove, but Google has a different opinion.
On 2025-04-20 21:45, VanguardLH wrote:
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
What would do this?
An app. Look at what you've installed. You might find a lot of them,
especially if you used them only once or twice over a long time, are no
longer needed, or there are non-adware apps to do the same thing.
A while ago, Google introduced a "security" feature in their Play Store
app that will remove permissions from apps (auto-reset permissions) that
have not been used in a long time. I had to go into the Play Store app
(your profile pic icon -> Play Protect -> App Privacy -> Auto-remove Off
and go to each app to disable auto-reset. There is no global option to
disable it for all apps. If you install a new app, yep, you have to
revisit Play Protect's privacy settings for the new app to remove
auto-reset.
https://chromeunboxed.com/google-can-now-auto-disable-permissons-from-risky-android-apps/
If you permit Google to automatically expire permissions on apps, and
you run the app later, you'll get the same set of prompts regarding
permissions as when you installed the app, or when you first used it.
But you'll have to remember which permissions you originally allowed,
and which you did not. Play Protect tells which permissions it removed,
so you could re-add those permissions, and then disable auto-remove for
that app. I would prefer a global option that completely disables
auto-remove, but Google has a different opinion.
Same here. It is a royal pain.
VanguardLH wrote:
This phone combine the Power button and fingerprint reader. The problem
with that design is sometime you are trying to power off the phone, but
it instead thinks you are trying to scan your fingerprint.
Just use your nail.
Another design defect is using the Power button to sleep the phone.
You want to power off, but as you withdraw your finger then it
thinks you want to come out of sleep mode.
Not a problem. Power off is a long press.
I have two motorolas with the finger sensor on the power button, and it
is not a problem at all. It is well designed.
On 2025-04-20 21:45, VanguardLH wrote:
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
What would do this?
An app. Look at what you've installed. You might find a lot of them,
especially if you used them only once or twice over a long time, are no
longer needed, or there are non-adware apps to do the same thing.
A while ago, Google introduced a "security" feature in their Play Store
app that will remove permissions from apps (auto-reset permissions) that
have not been used in a long time. I had to go into the Play Store app
(your profile pic icon -> Play Protect -> App Privacy -> Auto-remove Off
and go to each app to disable auto-reset. There is no global option to
disable it for all apps. If you install a new app, yep, you have to
revisit Play Protect's privacy settings for the new app to remove
auto-reset.
https://chromeunboxed.com/google-can-now-auto-disable-permissons-from-risky-android-apps/
If you permit Google to automatically expire permissions on apps, and
you run the app later, you'll get the same set of prompts regarding
permissions as when you installed the app, or when you first used it.
But you'll have to remember which permissions you originally allowed,
and which you did not. Play Protect tells which permissions it removed,
so you could re-add those permissions, and then disable auto-remove for
that app. I would prefer a global option that completely disables
auto-remove, but Google has a different opinion.
Same here. It is a royal pain.
There are apps that I do not use in months, but are supposed to alert me
if something happens. There goes Google and removes their permissions
and temporary files, so they stop working and the alerts do not arrive.
Very clever, google! :-/
Oh, periodically the phone alerts me that it has removed permissions
from a bunch of applications. I have to review the list one by one, and
make sure the switch to "hands off" is off. Sometimes, one app is on.
But some months back, they reverted all apps to "on"!
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:
This phone combine the Power button and fingerprint reader. The problem >>> with that design is sometime you are trying to power off the phone, but
it instead thinks you are trying to scan your fingerprint.
Just use your nail.
I cut mine short, so pressing the edge of the nail means my finger tip
also presses against the Power/fingerprint button. Maybe an upside-down finger to press just the fingernail against the Power button might work,
but remember this is a capacitance button,
so a fingernail (presumably
attached to a finger) also changes capacitance. My fingernail (edge or
just the nail) works just the same as pressing a finger tip. Maybe your phone lets you adjust the sensitivity of the capacitance change. Mine
does not.
Another design defect is using the Power button to sleep the phone.
You want to power off, but as you withdraw your finger then it
thinks you want to come out of sleep mode.
Not a problem. Power off is a long press.
Unless interpreted as a lock action. And withdrawing your finger does
not get interpreted as an unlock action. Long press should work as described, but doesn't always.
I have two motorolas with the finger sensor on the power button, and it
is not a problem at all. It is well designed.
Could be a design difference, like in the delays between finger press
and finger removal, or capacitance sensitivty.
Fingerprint sensors have changed over the years. My LG V20 was
introduced in September 2016, discontinued in 2019 (no further OS
updates after that), and LG left the smartphone market in April 2021.
Mine came with Android 7, and got 1 OS update to 8.0.0. I'm not going
to root my phone to get some unknown's firmware to allow me to update to
a later Android.
The OP's moto g100 was introduced in March 2021, came with Android 11,
and upgradeable to Android 12. No idea if the OP can get later versions
of Android without rooting.
I don't know which moto phones you have. As to the behavior for the
OP's phone, the OP probably best knows from experience unless one of
yours is also a moto g100.
On 2025-04-20 23:04, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:
This phone combine the Power button and fingerprint reader. The problem >>>> with that design is sometime you are trying to power off the phone, but >>>> it instead thinks you are trying to scan your fingerprint.
Just use your nail.
I cut mine short, so pressing the edge of the nail means my finger tip
also presses against the Power/fingerprint button. Maybe an upside-down
finger to press just the fingernail against the Power button might work,
but remember this is a capacitance button,
No, it is a standard button that moves. Does nothing until clicked.
I have a motorola g100. Today, while I was typing a message, it froze totally. On the keyboard, where there should be letter M, there was a
large circle with a dot at the bottom and three dots under that.
No phone function worked, and it took several tries to turn the phone off.
I was then able to restart it.
I also tried sticking a paper clip into the small hole at the top, which I thought is for a reset, but no good there either.
What would do this?
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-04-20 23:04, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:
This phone combine the Power button and fingerprint reader. The problem >>>>> with that design is sometime you are trying to power off the phone, but >>>>> it instead thinks you are trying to scan your fingerprint.
Just use your nail.
I cut mine short, so pressing the edge of the nail means my finger tip
also presses against the Power/fingerprint button. Maybe an upside-down >>> finger to press just the fingernail against the Power button might work, >>> but remember this is a capacitance button,
No, it is a standard button that moves. Does nothing until clicked.
Not on mine. The combo Power button & fingerprint scanner also work
just by tapping the button. Depressing it is not necessary to unlock
the phone since that is a fingerprint action.
When locked, tapping the
button unlocks the phone. I can short press the button to immediately
lock (or alternatively double-tap the screen in a blank area). A
long-press is supposed to show the Power Off, Restart, and Turn On
Airplane Mode options; however, after short-pressing to lock,
withdrawing my finger gets interpreted as the tap-to-unlock action.
With my short fingernails, tapping or pushing with them on the button is interpreted the same as using my finger tip.