• Re: Shutdown vs. Restart

    From AJL@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Apr 3 14:50:50 2025
    On 4/3/25 12:42 AM, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 26 Mar 2025 17:46:45 -0000 (UTC), AJL ><noemail@none.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/25 8:25 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
    Steve Hayes, 2025-03-24 10:04:

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:16:17 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    Learned recently that in later versions of windows, Shutdown does not >>>> >> completely shut down windows but Restart does.

    Is that true in Android too?

    In Windows, I'm pretty sure it is the other way round.

    Restart doesn't completely shut down Windows, but shutdown does.

    No, it's exactly the opposite - because "shutdown" is what people do all >>>> the time when they want turn off their computers. For this very reason >>>> Windows does only hibernate by default - which means it stores the
    current RAM content on the SSD so the last state including all open
    applications will be restored when turning on the computer the next time. >>


    Sorry, but that's not correct. If you do a 'Shut down' the system will >>>only save the OS to 'disk', not the open applications.

    I always thought the Windows OS was permanently on the 'disk' and thus
    didn't need to be resaved at each shutdown.

    I think it was something about the "kernel" that got retained when using >shutdown, and that changes that were made to it got erased when using >Restart.

    Seems to me you could restart, in order to reset the kernel, and then >shutdown in order to turn the machine off.

    Not a problem for me anymore. I quit Windows for life. I've been assimilated
    byGoogle, Amazon, and Android stuff... 8-O

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  • From AJL@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Apr 3 14:45:30 2025
    On 4/3/25 12:36 AM, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 26 Mar 2025 19:38:13 -0000 (UTC), AJL ><noemail@none.com> wrote:


    For the first time in decades (IIRC I started at DOS 5) I'm going Windows >>>> free. I gave away my last LT to a greatgrandkid and will now live on
    Android and Chrome OS. (Also Fire OS but that's really Android.) So it's >>>> now fast start for me for the duration. Whoopee... 8-O

    Lucky you! Too much of my need/want stuff is Windows-only, so I can't >>>switch to another platform.

    Well if it doesn't work out Amazon is just a few clicks away and I can be
    back in Windows by a tomorrow morning delivery. But in the meantime I still >> have 4 Amazon tablets, 2 Chromebooks, a Chrome tablet, and 2 Android
    tablets to play with. Surprisingly this Amazon Fire HD10 I'm posting with


    What do these things use for a keyboard.

    A virtual on-screen keyboard? A mini-keyboard? I really only like a >fullsize, typewriter size keyboard, because my fingers know where to go,
    so if I can't have that, I'm probably not going to use those things.

    An on screen keyboard. Size depends on the device size and design. I'm now
    posting with an Amazon 10" tablet and the KB is about 2x5 inches.


    is my favorite. Light and comfortable to hold, reasonably quick, and with
    Google installed does about everything the others do.And no, no I'm not
    being paid for these Amazon endorsements...


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  • From micky@21:1/5 to noemail@none.com on Fri Apr 4 12:52:48 2025
    In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 3 Apr 2025 14:45:30 -0000 (UTC), AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:


    A virtual on-screen keyboard? A mini-keyboard? I really only like a >>fullsize, typewriter size keyboard, because my fingers know where to go,
    so if I can't have that, I'm probably not going to use those things.

    An on screen keyboard. Size depends on the device size and design. I'm now
    posting with an Amazon 10" tablet and the KB is about 2x5 inches.

    My fingers are not that delicate. I did buy at a hamfest a used mini
    bluetooth keyboard, maybe that size, that works, for emergencies and
    because it was cheap. Used it to see if it works, but nothing else.

    Another First-World problem.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Apr 4 17:56:33 2025
    micky wrote:

    AJL wrote:

    An on screen keyboard. Size depends on the device size and design. I'm now >> posting with an Amazon 10" tablet and the KB is about 2x5 inches.

    My fingers are not that delicate.
    Have you tried a "swipe" keyboard?

    You just touch the screen and "swoosh" your finger in turn over all the
    letters in the word you want, it's pretty good at guessing based on
    context what you mean ... much quicker than hunt and peck.

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