• transfer to a new smartphone

    From Wendelin Uez@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 5 14:18:14 2025
    It's time to move to a new smartphone. I knwo when changing from one Android smartphone to a newer one I can login to my Google account with the newer smartphone and data are copied from backup to the new one.

    Bit what exactly is copied? I have addtional apps installed having their own data, f.e. WhatsApp, Firefox, Mail clients. Are these non-Google-apps and
    their data also backuped and restored, or do I have to reinstall them
    manually?

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Wendelin Uez on Sun Jan 5 15:17:41 2025
    On 2025-01-05 14:18, Wendelin Uez wrote:
    It's time to move to a new smartphone. I knwo when changing from one
    Android smartphone to a newer one I can login to my Google account with
    the newer smartphone and data are copied from backup to the new one.

    Get in advance an usb3 to usb3 cable, to connect both phones together.
    Make sure both phones are charged full. There is automated software on
    the new phone to copy all that is necessary.


    Bit what exactly is copied? I have addtional apps installed having their
    own data, f.e. WhatsApp, Firefox, Mail clients. Are these non-Google-
    apps and their data also backuped and restored, or do I have to
    reinstall them manually?

    Whatsapp copies fine, just make a full backup to google before
    transferring. I'm unsure if the usb cable copies everything (I did not
    have the cable last time I made a transfer).

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 5 18:36:51 2025
    Wendelin Uez, 2025-01-05 14:18:

    It's time to move to a new smartphone. I knwo when changing from one Android smartphone to a newer one I can login to my Google account with the newer smartphone and data are copied from backup to the new one.

    Bit what exactly is copied? I have addtional apps installed having their own data, f.e. WhatsApp, Firefox, Mail clients. Are these non-Google-apps and their data also backuped and restored, or do I have to reinstall them manually?

    Mostly all apps with their data will be transferred when you use the
    direct copy feature using Bluetooth. That means you power on both
    devices and put them next to each other and then transfer the data using
    the transfer function when you setup the new device. Using Google backup
    and restore should work mostly identical, but I did not do a thourough comparison of both methods yet.

    One exception are apps which use the secure storage of the device since
    this data can not be copied by design - it only exists in the secure
    storage and can be used to verify the identity of the device or do cryptographic signatures but it can not be read and copied to another
    devices for security reasons. For example banking apps and Google Wallet
    work this way.

    Also some apps may not allow to backup and restore data - what also is
    the case for most banking apps but also some apps which use DRM to
    protect downloaded content.

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    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Wendelin Uez on Sun Jan 5 11:11:39 2025
    On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 14:18:14 +0100, Wendelin Uez wrote:

    It's time to move to a new smartphone. I knwo when changing from one Android smartphone to a newer one I can login to my Google account with the newer smartphone and data are copied from backup to the new one.

    Bit what exactly is copied? I have addtional apps installed having their own data, f.e. WhatsApp, Firefox, Mail clients. Are these non-Google-apps and their data also backuped and restored, or do I have to reinstall them manually?

    My Samsung phone was stolen last month, so I had to follow the
    process you described on my new Pixel phone. I found that most of the non-Google apps did get restored. I can't remember which ones I had
    to download manually, but it was a small number. It wasn't a matter
    of downloading only the apps in Google's Play Store, because I had no
    apps on my old phone from any other source -- other than the Samsung
    ones that came preinstalled on that phone, and I didn't care about
    losing those.

    YMMV, but for me getting everything re-established and setting all
    the settings on my new phone took only an afternoon, much less than I
    had feared. And because you'll still have access to the old phone,
    you won't have to spend time racking your brain to remember what is
    missing. :-)

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to Wendelin Uez on Mon Jan 6 20:21:54 2025
    On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 14:18:14 +0100, Wendelin Uez wrote:

    Bit what exactly is copied? I have addtional apps installed having their own data, f.e. WhatsApp, Firefox, Mail clients. Are these non-Google-apps and their data also backuped and restored, or do I have to reinstall them manually?

    They should be copied as well, but for security reasons it's possible
    you have to log in again on the new device. In my case all my apps were
    copied and they were even in the same order and in the same maps that I created.

    My latest phones were Pixels and they contain a cable to connect both
    devices and transfer the data. You get step by step instructions. Not
    much can go wrong. (Well, maybe if you have a Samsung... ;-)

    --
    s|b

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