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Carlos E.R. wrote:
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their
customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.
As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case for many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year old
Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and was
updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their
customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.
As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case for many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year old
Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and was
updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.
Isn't the reason for that improving due to introduction of Project
Treble which allows the manufacturers to "slide in" newer versions of
the lower layers of Android?
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
[...]
I have two identical tablets. One fell from the bed, the screen cracked,
doesn't read the finger, so I bought another tablet. Then I tried to
have the first one repaired; the shop said they could not, but that I
would be able to use the tablet with a mouse (over BT). So I did. I use
that old tablet in the sitting room to cast Amazon Prime videos to the
Google dongle on my TV set (which is not smart).
I had the same problem with my very first (Samsung 10.1") tablet. I
used a wired mouse with a USB On-The-Go adapter to connect it to the
MicroUSB port of the tablet. Later a 'computer' shop 'fixed' it. They
could not find anything wrong with it, but apparently taking it apart, reseating all the connections and reassembling it, fixed it. Cost 25
Euro. Not bad IMO. Ten years later, the tablet still works, but with
Android 5 and little storage and RAM, it's not very useful.
Fun tidbit: Recently I used it as a 'media center', mainly for
streaming audio (Spotify, etc.) to my soundbar/subwoofer, but because it
was mostly working badly, I turned off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth when not in
use (instead of powering it off). In this mode, the tablet used less
than 1% battery capacity *per day* (including waking up the screen to
check the percentage). Impressive! I don't think my current phone will
manage that (with all its radios off).
[...]
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-01-04 16:10, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
As I indicated in my earlier response, I think Carlos was referring to >>> HP's 'Recovery Manager'. That is indeed not a customization of Windows
*itself*, but is *not* using any "built-in [recovery] feature on
Windows". HP's Recovery Manager can - amongst other functions - restore
the system to from-factory condition, *including* all third party
software, from a special reserved 'HP RECOVERY' partition.
Exactly. Actually, my laptop is a Compaq, which at the time was a second
name of HP. The thing came with W7.
It also had an HP tool to update the machine drivers and things, IIRC.
The tool was probably 'HP Support Assistant'. It still exists (i.e.
also on my Windows 11 HP laptop). It also contains all kinds of testing
and diagnostic tools. I someone use the 'HP Battery Check' part of it, because that really tests the battery, instead of just reporting the
values from the battery's electronics.
[...]
Is there a way around this, so I can go directly to the BT Tethering settings? I'm using a Pixel 6, Android 15, all updates installed.
Do you have a Samsung phone?
On 28 Dec 2024 18:47:22 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Do you have a Samsung phone?
Once. Never again. I almost threw that thing against the wall... twice.
I've been using Pixel since Nexus 5X.
Do you have a Samsung phone?
Once. Never again. I almost threw that thing against the wall... twice.
I've been using Pixel since Nexus 5X.
Same here.
Bob Martin wrote on 31 Dec 2024 07:06:56 GMT :
Do you have a Samsung phone?
Once. Never again. I almost threw that thing against the wall... twice.
I've been using Pixel since Nexus 5X.
Same here.
What does a Google Pixel do that is useful that a Samsung Galaxy can't do?
Bob Martin wrote on 31 Dec 2024 07:06:56 GMT :
Do you have a Samsung phone?
Once. Never again. I almost threw that thing against the wall... twice.
I've been using Pixel since Nexus 5X.
Same here.
What does a Google Pixel do that is useful that a Samsung Galaxy can't do?
I spent many hours writing the tutorial for exactly how to do this.
It's in the archives so you should be able to find it in a search.
In addition, I posted a lot of the same information to XDA because I'm a kind-hearted helpful person who cares to extend knowledge to everyone.
<http://xdaforums.com/t/tutorial-illustrated-mostly-privacy-based-one-tap-shortcuts-so-that-you-can-access-in-a-single-tap-any-buried-android-setting-or-app-activity.4625951/>
You asked a question that has been answered a billion times already.
I spend hours and hours writing a tutorial with many annotated images.
So that people like you can do, in seconds, what took me days to learn.
And then you act like that?
Do you at least see why I'm frustrated trying to help people like you?
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI
and modified functions.
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI >>> and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Only for Google phones, 'we' do not call it "crap", but "vanilla", "standard", "stock", etc..
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
This shows me it's possible, but complicated. (-: I'll give it a go.
I spent many hours writing the tutorial for exactly how to do this.
It's in the archives so you should be able to find it in a search.
Got a suggestion for an online Usenet Archive? All I can find is usenetarchives.com which doesn't allow searching (also, archive stops
after 2022).
Can't create a widget either.
s|b wrote on Thu, 26 Dec 2024 14:05:20 +0100 :
This shows me it's possible, but complicated. (-: I'll give it a go.
It's actually easy.
I have written many tutorials on this subject but people don't read.
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI >>> and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Hum. No, some manufacturers don't "fill". They add less customization,
like Motorola (Lenovo group). This way updates come faster.
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.
This is not absolutely bad, some people do like those additions. I do
like them, just not the delay they mean.
Only for Google phones, 'we' do not call it "crap", but "vanilla", "standard", "stock", etc..
No, google phones come directly without a customization layer.
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
Yes, some companies sell their laptops with a lot of customization. Say
HP. This is not bad per se. The recovery feature is good. But the layer
can include apps that slow the laptop while promoting their business interests.
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI >>> and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Only for Google phones, 'we' do not call it "crap", but "vanilla", "standard", "stock", etc..
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
Yes, some companies sell their laptops with a lot of customization. Say
HP. This is not bad per se. The recovery feature is good. But the layer
can include apps that slow the laptop while promoting their business interests.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:[...]
No, google phones come directly without a customization layer.
Of course, but they are still customized and I doubt that they don't
come with any Pixel-only or/and third-party software. And over time the
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI >>>>> and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Hum. No, some manufacturers don't "fill". They add less customization,
like Motorola (Lenovo group). This way updates come faster.
I said "fill", because it's the term 's|b' used. I don't consider my phones "filled with crap" or having too much customization.
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their
customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.
As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case for many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year old
Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and was
updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.