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Nazi post-humpers all around.
I have a message for them:
Buddy, take a look in the mirror.
Are you tired of he-man Linux users kicking sand in
your face? Then try Linux.
I laugh at your 15-year-old photos as much as I laugh at
the 15-year-old Linux lames that are brought by Windows
Weenies.
"Printing is too hard!", they claim, not realizing that Linux
uses CUPS now -- the very same system used by Macs. Might as well
complain about X server modelines.
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times.
Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to
join The Revolution.
vallor wrote:
Nazi post-humpers all around.https://postimg.cc/VdH0FXnD
I have a message for them:
Buddy, take a look in the mirror.
Are you tired of he-man Linux users kicking sand in your face? Then
try Linux.
I laugh at your 15-year-old photos as much as I laugh at the
15-year-old Linux lames that are brought by Windows Weenies.
"Printing is too hard!", they claim, not realizing that Linux uses CUPS
now -- the very same system used by Macs. Might as well complain about
X server modelines.
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times.
Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to join
The Revolution.
You should be concerned with your impending heart attack, or stroke, or diabetes, you blimp.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) wrote:
vallor wrote:
Nazi post-humpers all around.https://postimg.cc/VdH0FXnD
I have a message for them:
Buddy, take a look in the mirror.
Are you tired of he-man Linux users kicking sand in your face? Then
try Linux.
I laugh at your 15-year-old photos as much as I laugh at the
15-year-old Linux lames that are brought by Windows Weenies.
"Printing is too hard!", they claim, not realizing that Linux uses
CUPS now -- the very same system used by Macs. Might as well complain
about X server modelines.
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times.
Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to join
The Revolution.
You should be concerned with your impending heart attack, or stroke, or
diabetes, you blimp.
this applies to my friend , " HogBoy "
On Mon, 12 May 2025 14:10:02 -0400, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <me@my.myself> wrote in <af60d4d75291c7c7c20eef4674091e374d75dc34@i2pn2.org>:
vallor wrote:
Nazi post-humpers all around.https://postimg.cc/VdH0FXnD
I have a message for them:
Buddy, take a look in the mirror.
Are you tired of he-man Linux users kicking sand in your face? Then
try Linux.
I laugh at your 15-year-old photos as much as I laugh at the
15-year-old Linux lames that are brought by Windows Weenies.
"Printing is too hard!", they claim, not realizing that Linux uses CUPS
now -- the very same system used by Macs. Might as well complain about
X server modelines.
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times.
Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to join
The Revolution.
You should be concerned with your impending heart attack, or stroke, or
diabetes, you blimp.
Who do you think you're fooling with bad photoshops of 15-year-old photos?
"Dude...do you even lift?"
But what is obvious is you clowns don't have the balls to
try Linux.
Wusses go in the Sin Bin.
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times.
Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to
join The Revolution.
On Mon, 12 May 2025 11:12:18 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in <fE6dnf195ZKLp7_1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) wrote:
vallor wrote:
Nazi post-humpers all around.https://postimg.cc/VdH0FXnD
I have a message for them:
Buddy, take a look in the mirror.
Are you tired of he-man Linux users kicking sand in your face? Then
try Linux.
I laugh at your 15-year-old photos as much as I laugh at the
15-year-old Linux lames that are brought by Windows Weenies.
"Printing is too hard!", they claim, not realizing that Linux uses
CUPS now -- the very same system used by Macs. Might as well complain >>>> about X server modelines.
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times. >>>> Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to join >>>> The Revolution.
You should be concerned with your impending heart attack, or stroke, or
diabetes, you blimp.
this applies to my friend , " HogBoy "
Oh, is that "HogBoy"? That would explain a lot.
"Andy" was here earlier.
On 12 May 2025 17:30:52 GMT, vallor wrote:
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times.Do not encourage the idiots. It will eventually lead to the degradation
Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to join
The Revolution.
of GNU/Linux.
To accommodate the hordes of digitally clueless idiots, the folks at
GNOME, freedesktop.org, etc. will implement more and more idiotic
features. The competent users, and their software, will be left with
less and less. GNU/Linux will quickly become just as anemic,
if not more so, as Microslop Winblows.
Of course, there could be special distros for such morons. Call them
"Linux for Lusers" or "Dumb Dog Linux."
But idiots should not be allowed to contaminate the GNU/Linux hardcore.
However, I have been trying some Linux advocacy, which I notice you
seem to always be opposed to. I think the gentleman from France
is right: you try to make Linux look bad.
On Mon, 12 May 2025 18:29:23 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
<pan$1ce4b$7540d318$75591b97$de435623@linux.rocks>:
On 12 May 2025 17:30:52 GMT, vallor wrote:
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times.Do not encourage the idiots. It will eventually lead to the degradation
Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to join
The Revolution.
of GNU/Linux.
Not to worry -- there's no imagination in their posts, so not worth
reading. Just stupid lames.
However, I have been trying some Linux advocacy, which I notice you
seem to always be opposed to. I think the gentleman from France
is right: you try to make Linux look bad.
On 2025-05-12, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 18:29:23 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in >><pan$1ce4b$7540d318$75591b97$de435623@linux.rocks>:I agree with Farley. I have no issue at all with people who want to use Linux, or another Free Software OS like FreeBSD switching, if they wish,
On 12 May 2025 17:30:52 GMT, vallor wrote:
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times.Do not encourage the idiots. It will eventually lead to the degradation >>> of GNU/Linux.
Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to join >>>> The Revolution.
Not to worry -- there's no imagination in their posts, so not worth
reading. Just stupid lames.
However, I have been trying some Linux advocacy, which I notice you
seem to always be opposed to. I think the gentleman from France
is right: you try to make Linux look bad.
but I do not like this idea that people should just switch, just
because. This obsession that some Linux users have, that "Aunt Tilly"
must be able to use Linux too is harmful. The push to make it universal
will result in silly decisions that WILL make Linux just another
windows, thereby losing all advantage.
The zealots are a problem. By all means help those who WANT to use
Linux, to use it but those who don't actually want Linux (ie, to use a
Unix like OS, as it is now), they can stay away, and SHOULD stay away.
Chasing the biggest market share is self-defeating. Ferarri do not stay
up all night trying to make their cars outsell Hyundai and Toyota, they understand the niche they serve. They don't tailor their cars for
people who don't want to drive a Ferrari.
Why all the fuss about making Linux front-ends friendly to n00bs?
Borax Man wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On 2025-05-12, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 18:29:23 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wroteI agree with Farley. I have no issue at all with people who want to
in
<pan$1ce4b$7540d318$75591b97$de435623@linux.rocks>:
On 12 May 2025 17:30:52 GMT, vallor wrote:
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a fewDo not encourage the idiots. It will eventually lead to the
times. Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to
join The Revolution.
degradation of GNU/Linux.
Not to worry -- there's no imagination in their posts, so not worth
reading. Just stupid lames.
However, I have been trying some Linux advocacy, which I notice you
seem to always be opposed to. I think the gentleman from France is
right: you try to make Linux look bad.
use Linux, or another Free Software OS like FreeBSD switching, if they
wish,
but I do not like this idea that people should just switch, just
because. This obsession that some Linux users have, that "Aunt Tilly"
must be able to use Linux too is harmful. The push to make it
universal will result in silly decisions that WILL make Linux just
another windows, thereby losing all advantage.
The zealots are a problem. By all means help those who WANT to use
Linux, to use it but those who don't actually want Linux (ie, to use a
Unix like OS, as it is now), they can stay away, and SHOULD stay away.
Chasing the biggest market share is self-defeating. Ferarri do not
stay up all night trying to make their cars outsell Hyundai and Toyota,
they understand the niche they serve. They don't tailor their cars for
people who don't want to drive a Ferrari.
Why all the fuss about making Linux front-ends friendly to n00bs?
On Wed, 14 May 2025 07:57:11 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Why all the fuss about making Linux front-ends friendly to n00bs?
Because, as there should have been with systemd, there should be
a fork. We should have 2 distinct versions of GNU/Linux:
1) GNU/Linux for dummies
2) GNU/Linux for competent professionals.
But there won't be a fork. All (99%) distros will choose to
accommodate dummies and GNU/Linux will be degraded again.
Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 14:24 this Wednesday (GMT):
On Wed, 14 May 2025 07:57:11 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Why all the fuss about making Linux front-ends friendly to n00bs?
Because, as there should have been with systemd, there should be
a fork. We should have 2 distinct versions of GNU/Linux:
1) GNU/Linux for dummies
2) GNU/Linux for competent professionals.
But there won't be a fork. All (99%) distros will choose to
accommodate dummies and GNU/Linux will be degraded again.
I thought Linux Mint was supposed to be that.
There is no reason for Linux to be complicated. Making it simple for
novices to learn it doesn't prevent people from using it in a needlessly complicated fashion should they choose to do so.
I certainly didn't need an excursion into udev rules earlier this week.
A couple of months ago I didn't need to learn the intricacies of pipewire
and its little friends.
On 2025-05-15 15:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 14:24 this Wednesday (GMT):
On Wed, 14 May 2025 07:57:11 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Why all the fuss about making Linux front-ends friendly to n00bs?
Because, as there should have been with systemd, there should be
a fork. We should have 2 distinct versions of GNU/Linux:
1) GNU/Linux for dummies
2) GNU/Linux for competent professionals.
But there won't be a fork. All (99%) distros will choose to
accommodate dummies and GNU/Linux will be degraded again.
I thought Linux Mint was supposed to be that.
There is no reason for Linux to be complicated. Making it simple for
novices to learn it doesn't prevent people from using it in a needlessly complicated fashion should they choose to do so.
On Thu, 15 May 2025 16:35:51 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
There is no reason for Linux to be complicated. Making it simple for
novices to learn it doesn't prevent people from using it in a needlessly
complicated fashion should they choose to do so.
I certainly didn't need an excursion into udev rules earlier this week. A couple of months ago I didn't need to learn the intricacies of pipewire
and its little friends. I'm not either novice nor a Linux guru but I
really don't like wading through that '90s style configuration crap.
I agree with Farley.
I do not like this idea that people should just switch, just
because. This obsession that some Linux users have, that "Aunt Tilly"
must be able to use Linux too is harmful. The push to make it universal
will result in silly decisions that WILL make Linux just another
windows, thereby losing all advantage.
The zealots are a problem. By all means help those who WANT to use
Linux, to use it but those who don't actually want Linux (ie, to use a
Unix like OS, as it is now), they can stay away, and SHOULD stay away.
Chasing the biggest market share is self-defeating.
Ferarri do not stay
up all night trying to make their cars outsell Hyundai and Toyota, they >understand the niche they serve. They don't tailor their cars for
people who don't want to drive a Ferrari.
On 2025-05-15 21:34, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2025 16:35:51 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
There is no reason for Linux to be complicated. Making it simple for
novices to learn it doesn't prevent people from using it in a
needlessly complicated fashion should they choose to do so.
I certainly didn't need an excursion into udev rules earlier this week.
A couple of months ago I didn't need to learn the intricacies of
pipewire and its little friends. I'm not either novice nor a Linux guru
but I really don't like wading through that '90s style configuration
crap.
If Larry Pietraskiewicz had his way, people would be forced to go
through that 90s style configuration crap all the time. Imagine needing
to enter the horizontal and vertical refresh rate of your monitor every
time you install Linux. It would be a pain in the ass, but that's how it
used to be.
On 12 May 2025 18:45:54 GMT, vallor wrote:
However, I have been trying some Linux advocacy, which I notice you
seem to always be opposed to. I think the gentleman from France
is right: you try to make Linux look bad.
Nope. GNU/Linux is not intended for digital deadbeats.
That's why Microslop/Apphole exist.
If GNU/Linux begins to patronize idiots then it will be the end.
Thanks the gods that FreeBSD is available.
On 2025-05-12, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 18:29:23 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in >><pan$1ce4b$7540d318$75591b97$de435623@linux.rocks>:I agree with Farley.
On 12 May 2025 17:30:52 GMT, vallor wrote:
Just try booting a live stick. Take it around the block a few times.Do not encourage the idiots. It will eventually lead to the degradation >>> of GNU/Linux.
Tell us what you think.
What are you afraid of? God forbid you like Linux, and decide to join >>>> The Revolution.
Not to worry -- there's no imagination in their posts, so not worth
reading. Just stupid lames.
However, I have been trying some Linux advocacy, which I notice you
seem to always be opposed to. I think the gentleman from France
is right: you try to make Linux look bad.
I have no issue at all with people who want to use
Linux, or another Free Software OS like FreeBSD switching, if they wish,
but I do not like this idea that people should just switch, just
because.
This obsession that some Linux users have, that "Aunt Tilly"
must be able to use Linux too is harmful.
The push to make it universal will result in silly decisions that WILL
make Linux just another windows, thereby losing all advantage.
Chasing the biggest market share is self-defeating. Ferarri do not stay
up all night trying to make their cars outsell Hyundai and Toyota, they understand the niche they serve. They don't tailor their cars for
people who don't want to drive a Ferrari.
On Fri, 16 May 2025 01:34:50 +0000, rbowman wrote:
I certainly didn't need an excursion into udev rules earlier this week.
Udev is another piece of unnecessary junk that was foisted on all distros. For a standalone workstation, static device nodes are the best solution but the universal opinion is that static nodes are obsolete and have no place
in a modern GNU/Linux.
Le 16-05-2025, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> a écrit :
On Fri, 16 May 2025 01:34:50 +0000, rbowman wrote:
I certainly didn't need an excursion into udev rules earlier thisUdev is another piece of unnecessary junk that was foisted on all
week.
distros. For a standalone workstation, static device nodes are the best
solution but the universal opinion is that static nodes are obsolete
and have no place in a modern GNU/Linux.
You are confused. A standalone workstation isn't the same thing as an
unused workstation. Anyone has a lot of reason to plug things on a
started workstation. And being able to do the difference between a well
known usb key and a garbage plugged into a computer is very important.
On Fri, 16 May 2025 08:46:36 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
On 2025-05-15 21:34, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2025 16:35:51 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
There is no reason for Linux to be complicated. Making it simple for
novices to learn it doesn't prevent people from using it in a
needlessly complicated fashion should they choose to do so.
I certainly didn't need an excursion into udev rules earlier this week.
A couple of months ago I didn't need to learn the intricacies of
pipewire and its little friends. I'm not either novice nor a Linux guru
but I really don't like wading through that '90s style configuration
crap.
If Larry Pietraskiewicz had his way, people would be forced to go
through that 90s style configuration crap all the time. Imagine needing
to enter the horizontal and vertical refresh rate of your monitor every
time you install Linux. It would be a pain in the ass, but that's how it
used to be.
The first thing I do with a new machine is to set the mouse to left
handed. Even that was a pain in the ass finding xorg.conf and then dealing with the obscure Pointer buttons. Good old days my ass.
On 16 May 2025 20:59:04 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
Le 16-05-2025, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> a écrit :
On Fri, 16 May 2025 01:34:50 +0000, rbowman wrote:
I certainly didn't need an excursion into udev rules earlier thisUdev is another piece of unnecessary junk that was foisted on all
week.
distros. For a standalone workstation, static device nodes are the best
solution but the universal opinion is that static nodes are obsolete
and have no place in a modern GNU/Linux.
You are confused. A standalone workstation isn't the same thing as an
unused workstation. Anyone has a lot of reason to plug things on a
started workstation. And being able to do the difference between a well
known usb key and a garbage plugged into a computer is very important.
All I really wanted to do is have picotool flash a pico without using
sudo. The Raspberry Pi Pico extension in VS code has a 'Run' button to
flash a device in the BOOTSEL mode and start execution. For some reason it worked on Ubuntu but failed on Fedora, requiring an invocation with sudo.
The strange thing is I couldn't figure out why the difference other than
it is a snap on Ubuntu and not a flatpak on Fedora. The snap may be
working some magic that doesn't require a rule. I see a lot of rules like 70-snap.gnome-mahjongg.rules in /etc/udev/rules.d but nothing for
picotool. It's not in /lib/udev/rules.d either.
I stopped digging when I got it to work on Fedora.