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On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work ...
I’ve used Linux on a number of laptops, both old and new, 32-bit and 64- bit. Never had such a problem on any of them.
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work ...
I’ve used Linux on a number of laptops, both old and new, 32-bit and 64- bit. Never had such a problem on any of them.
On 2025-02-24 12:34 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work ...
I’ve used Linux on a number of laptops, both old and new, 32-bit and 64- >> bit. Never had such a problem on any of them.
Denying that there is a problem will not help anything.
D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.
hmm... never heard of ai "rewrite":
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
for text editing, these work superbly:
libre office https://libreoffice.org
notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
alt.comp.linux
alt.comp.os.linux
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.debian
alt.os.linux.mint
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.portable
linux.debian.announce
linux.debian.user
uk.comp.os.linux
cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing
No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.
No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.
Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day.
For the small amount I've used Copilot, just the sidebar in Edge browser
was easy enough, rather than an app.
I have Copilot as a Web app, under Linux, I like M$'s spin on AI chat,
but the way Win11 integrates it is abominable.
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era
is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.
Lighten up, Francis.
Did you even read the article? Notepad is still free. If you want to use the
alleged "AI" features, then you need to have a Microsoft 365 subscription. >>
I don't have one and never will. I paid $18 of "good money" for Windows 11 >> Arm Pro. I run it (on the rare occasions I want to run Windows 11) in a VMWare
Fusion VM on this Mac. VMWare is also free.
Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day.
Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type this to
run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, but putting
Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, even Win10
realistically requires a certain threshold to perform well, and 11 is
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.
On 2/18/2025 8:01 PM, Joel wrote:
D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-
this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era >>>> is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but >>>> required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with >>>> sanity.
hmm... never heard of ai "rewrite":
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
for text editing, these work superbly:
libre office https://libreoffice.org
notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
alt.comp.linux
alt.comp.os.linux
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.debian
alt.os.linux.mint
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.portable
linux.debian.announce
linux.debian.user
uk.comp.os.linux
cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing
No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.
childish and conceited.
On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46 PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era >>>> is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but >>>> required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.
Lighten up, Francis.
Did you even read the article? Notepad is still free. If you want to use the
alleged "AI" features, then you need to have a Microsoft 365 subscription. >>>
I don't have one and never will. I paid $18 of "good money" for Windows 11 >>> Arm Pro. I run it (on the rare occasions I want to run Windows 11) in a VMWare
Fusion VM on this Mac. VMWare is also free.
Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day.
Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type this to
run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, but putting
Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you have very recent
hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, even Win10
realistically requires a certain threshold to perform well, and 11 is
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.
Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
Apple only seems like a "money pit" when you are young and broke. When you grow up and start making real money, Apple is just fine.
I know because I once was young and broke. Now I am older, wiser and have money.
me <invalid@invalid.org> wrote:
On 2/18/2025 8:01 PM, Joel wrote:
D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
You have to be kidding me. This is what dumbasses running Win11 are >>>>> paying good money to obtain? And Linux is *free*? How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using? What era >>>>> is this, FFS? Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but >>>>> required to use their OS. Linux is the only option, for someone with >>>>> sanity.
hmm... never heard of ai "rewrite":
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
for text editing, these work superbly:
libre office https://libreoffice.org
notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
alt.comp.linux
alt.comp.os.linux
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.debian
alt.os.linux.mint
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.portable
linux.debian.announce
linux.debian.user
uk.comp.os.linux
cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing
No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.
denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was
childish and conceited.
Not really, no. Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in realistic terms. M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical. Linux is what people should be using.
Andy Burns wrote:
For the small amount I've used Copilot, just the sidebar in Edge browser was easy enough, rather than an app.
Oh, just looking at it again, it seems to have changed, where it previously started as an empty chat session
with an input field at the bottom, it now seems to be stuffed full of suggested topics and recommended stories ...
The mere fact that changing the battery, RAM or the storage in Macs is impossible now makes it a terrible choice for people who like to hold
onto their hardware for a while. If none of the above is important to
you though, it's a nice little system.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
realistic terms. M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical. Linux is what people should be using.
Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.
My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down the computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.
On Feb 19, 2025 at 9:23:31 AM EST, "CrudeSausage" <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
The mere fact that changing the battery, RAM or the storage in Macs is
impossible now makes it a terrible choice for people who like to hold
onto their hardware for a while. If none of the above is important to
you though, it's a nice little system.
Actually, its a nice big system. 12 Arm CPUs (M2), 48GB RAM, 1 TB storage and 16" screen. Runs MacOS (Unix) and Windows 11 at the same time without even getting warm.
I have a second screen (18") that plugs into a USB-C port. More storage is also easy via USB-C ports. I have plenty of RAM.
Batteries rarely go bad when you know how to treat them. I have a 10 year old iPad Air 2 that still works fine. I have an 8 year old iPhone 8 plus that still has 99% battery health.
The fact is, only real hardware geeks care about "upgrading". Most people are
not computer hobbyists and/or hardware geeks. I used to be (many years ago) but I am no longer interested in that. I have a real life now.
A "computer" for most people today is just an appliance. And you can't "upgrade" any other common appliances. TVs, microwave ovens, radios, dishwashers, refrigerators, phones/tablets/etc. You use it until you outgrow it. You then sell it and get a new one. Just like any other appliance.
And Apple stuff has high resale value. Win/Win.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down theWinblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
realistic terms. M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their >>>>> platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical. Linux is what people should be using.
Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even >>>> shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse >>>> to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare. >>>
computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.
It sounds to me like you're faced some of the garbage yourself.
Well, when it comes to suspending/hibernating the system, Linux
doesn't have the magic of Windows, admittedly, but I don't really need
it, I can just lock the screen and let the computer run idly, or turn
it all the way off.
Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
Apple only seems like a "money pit" when you are young and broke. When
you grow up and start making real money, Apple is just fine.
I know because I once was young and broke. Now I am older, wiser and
have money.
Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:17:46 -0500, Joel wrote:
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.
Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is
garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck.
/Gnome, I'm looking at you.
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.
Meanwhile you whine about Windows corrupting your system.
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:17:46 -0500, Joel wrote:
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.
Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is
garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck.
/Gnome, I'm looking at you.
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> wrote at 19:08 this Wednesday (GMT):
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:17:46 -0500, Joel wrote:
just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option.
Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is
garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck.
/Gnome, I'm looking at you.
I'm using XFCE.
That's my second choice, after Cinnamon.
On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46 PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
wrote:
Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type
this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux,
but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you
have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long,
even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform
well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is
the only option.
Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
being a younger Linux enthusiast are vital to the community and to
the effort. You are where the rubber meets the road, in competing
with M$, and I do the same as a middle-aged person, because I'm so
young at heart.
Thanks I think
Yeah, sorry, I do get carried away being a character, but in
seriousness you are a pro.
Maybe not a /pro/, but I do have some experience with Linux.
I say to be on Usenet as you are means you are a pro.
On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote:
On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46 PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
wrote:
<Snip>
Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type
this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux,
but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you
have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long,
even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform
well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is
the only option.
Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
"Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary
School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life
.... unless they get adventurous and try something else!!
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote at 11:10 this Friday (GMT):
On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote:
On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46 PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
wrote:
<Snip>
Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type
this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux,
but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you
have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long,
even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform
well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is
the only option.
Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
"Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows
and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary
School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life
.... unless they get adventurous and try something else!!
And companies refuse to try anything else.
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote at 11:10 this Friday (GMT): >>> On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote:
On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46?PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
wrote:
Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type
this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux,
but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you
have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long,
even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform
well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is
the only option.
Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
"Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows
and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary
School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life
.... unless they get adventurous and try something else!!
And companies refuse to try anything else.
You being a younger Linux enthusiast are vital to the community and to
the effort. You are where the rubber meets the road, in competing
with M$, and I do the same as a middle-aged person, because I'm so
young at heart.
On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote:
On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46 PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
<Snip>
Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type
this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux,
but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you
have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long,
even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform
well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is
the only option.
Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
"Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary
School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life
.... unless they get adventurous and try something else!!
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 20:49 this Monday (GMT):
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote at 11:10 this Friday (GMT): >>>>> On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote:
On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46?PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
wrote:
Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type
this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, >>>>>>> but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you
have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, >>>>>>> even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform >>>>>>> well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is >>>>>>> the only option.
Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users.
"Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows >>>>> and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary >>>>> School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life >>>>> .... unless they get adventurous and try something else!!
And companies refuse to try anything else.
You being a younger Linux enthusiast are vital to the community and to
the effort. You are where the rubber meets the road, in competing
with M$, and I do the same as a middle-aged person, because I'm so
young at heart.
Thanks I think
Yeah, sorry, I do get carried away being a character, but in
seriousness you are a pro.