• Re: 24H2

    From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Feb 24 22:30:03 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 04:35 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 14:48:07 -0500, Joel wrote:

    Admittedly, though, they didn't lie about 10 being the last real version
    ever. Because a (previously upgraded) 7 key will install 11 on cutting
    edge hardware or a VM.

    When I was on the Insiders channel they pushed out a 'Windows Next'
    update. It wouldn't install and they quickly reverted it. That was over a year ago and I haven't heard any more about a 'next' or 12.

    I think they're too busy chasing the AI unicorn through the fields of
    clover at the moment.


    I honestly wouldn't be too suprised if MS started making Windows itself
    a subsciption that got continuously updated.
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 24 18:58:33 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Mon, 2/24/2025 5:30 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 04:35 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 14:48:07 -0500, Joel wrote:

    Admittedly, though, they didn't lie about 10 being the last real version >>> ever. Because a (previously upgraded) 7 key will install 11 on cutting
    edge hardware or a VM.

    When I was on the Insiders channel they pushed out a 'Windows Next'
    update. It wouldn't install and they quickly reverted it. That was over a
    year ago and I haven't heard any more about a 'next' or 12.

    I think they're too busy chasing the AI unicorn through the fields of
    clover at the moment.


    I honestly wouldn't be too suprised if MS started making Windows itself
    a subsciption that got continuously updated.


    Back in 2015, WaaS was posited as the endpoint for the ecosystem.

    It is now 2025, and we're still floating that balloon ?

    How long does it take to do frog boiling (a critter that does
    not escape a boiling pot if the temperature is raised gradually,
    instead it croaks rather than hop out) ? Let's find out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

    Maybe they've figured out that the pot would be empty if they did that. Although it's true that some people will pay for almost anything
    shoved through their letterbox.

    *******

    And you don't install just any old key on a VM. Microsoft Tech Support
    do not support maintenance issues for VM-linked keys. There is a
    specific product you're supposed to be buying, if wishing to
    license the OS while it runs in a VM. You can't just take the
    license key off the back of a cereal box and enter that -- the
    reason is, if the key is "lost", the Tech Support person
    will give their rendition of "tough Beanz". They won't do a
    thing for you. With the correct key (no idea what Enterprise
    product that would be), then you will get a better response from
    them. Someone here lost a key in a VM already, and they recount the
    response they got when trying to restore it. It's sufficient to
    modify some identifier used in the VM to upset the activation
    of the key -- making a VM "more brittle" than bricks&mortar
    real computers with their NIC MAC address and other hardware
    details.

    An example of a key, would be a "Retail SKU" where the price is
    double the normal OEM key, but you get the right to "move" the
    license from one machine to another. Such a key could be put
    on a VM where the identifier got modified by accident or
    abuse. The key when re-applied to the VM, would
    "look like it was being moved". Whereas the more normal OEM
    keys floating around, are unlikely to have that property (can't
    be moved).

    Paul

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