On 2/22/2025 11:30 PM, rbowman wrote:

I've never used Office,

I pity the fool...

and I'm not tied to a prehistoric version of Access, like DFS.

I have a ton of Access apps and VBA code in Access and Excel 2003,
archived from my development work thru the years. I don't need to
upgrade it to later versions anyway, so there it sits.

I recently found a $33 Office Pro 2024 deal, so I may make the jump to
see how Excel and Access look these days. I don't care about Word or Powerpoint or Outlook.

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:23:21 -0500, DFS wrote:

On 2/22/2025 11:30 PM, rbowman wrote:

I've never used Office,

I pity the fool...

I've never used a Cuisinart food processor either.

https://ontarioknife.com/collections/old-hickory%C2%AE-1/products/79-8- old-hickory-cook-knife?variant=31397663375446

"It slices, it dices, and it screams Americana."

I'm sure Cuisinart makes fine stuff but I've never needed any of it. I
might make an exception for a coffee maker but the Mr. Coffee keeps
soldiering on.

and I'm not tied to a prehistoric version of Access, like DFS.

I have a ton of Access apps and VBA code in Access and Excel 2003,
archived from my development work thru the years. I don't need to
upgrade it to later versions anyway, so there it sits.

Luckily my development through the years used DB2, SQL Server, Postgres,
and SQLite. Esri did use Access for their mdb's but the Esri code did all
the heavy lifting since Access is not a spatial database. Esri no longer supports it and we moved the last client using it to Esri's FileGDB last
year.

A ranger at Rocky Mountain NP did develop sort of a CAD system with Access
and VBA. It was an impressive feat from somebody with way too much time on their hands in the winter.

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On 2/21/25 9:18 PM, Joel wrote:

PCI-e, obviously, made in China, Fenvi brand seemingly endorsed by
Newegg, ordered from the same. Debian utilized it with my home
Internet on boot up, previous motherboard-integrated WiFi was still
working but would get slow after a period of time, needing to shut
down the system and turn back on to make it fast again. The odd
antenna that magnetized to the top of the case (where would Larry put
it, if he bought this motherboard, not that he would of course, the
weirdo) is now removed, and I wiped dust off of the case and a bit
inside, while working. Pretty happy.

Well, we're always happy to see new, easy, devices.

Alas China ... well ... beware. Got/analyzed the
source code for those drivers ???

For cheap/useful x86 boxes, check into Beelink
and BMax. A large range to be had. For Linux,
the N90/N100 ones will provide good performance
for a very good price.

It SHOULD be a matter of PRIDE though to make
sure the included Winders does not run for a
single microsecond before you overwrite with
Linux :-)

Have several of these - various roles. All VERY
good little boxes.

NEXT up - a FreeBSD ... maybe my ultimate NAS ?

PIs are very good - for Pi stuff ... but if you
don't need all those GPIO pins then maybe a
BeeLink is what you're looking for. Somewhat
better performance too - above Pi5.

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On 2/22/25 2:29 AM, rbowman wrote:

On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 01:55:40 -0500, c186282 wrote:

It SHOULD be a matter of PRIDE though to make sure the included
Winders does not run for a single microsecond before you overwrite
with Linux

The Windows 11 on my Beelink lasted longer than a microsecond. After all
you need something to download the iso and burn it to a thumbdrive.

NOPE !!!

Find the BIOS keystroke. Varies between
Beelink/BMax units. Sometimes <esc> or
maybe F12.

Boot direct from the thumb-drive with
the Linux ISO.

Winders doesn't have to run for a
fuckin' microsecond.

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On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 01:55:40 -0500, c186282 wrote:

It SHOULD be a matter of PRIDE though to make sure the included
Winders does not run for a single microsecond before you overwrite
with Linux

The Windows 11 on my Beelink lasted longer than a microsecond. After all
you need something to download the iso and burn it to a thumbdrive.

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On 2/22/25 3:25 AM, Joel wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

PCI-e, obviously, made in China, Fenvi brand seemingly endorsed by
Newegg, ordered from the same. Debian utilized it with my home
Internet on boot up, previous motherboard-integrated WiFi was still
working but would get slow after a period of time, needing to shut
down the system and turn back on to make it fast again. The odd
antenna that magnetized to the top of the case (where would Larry put
it, if he bought this motherboard, not that he would of course, the
weirdo) is now removed, and I wiped dust off of the case and a bit
inside, while working. Pretty happy.

Well, we're always happy to see new, easy, devices.

Alas China ... well ... beware. Got/analyzed the
source code for those drivers ???

Are they not in the kernel?

Go ahead ... read a megabyte, figure out
what it all does ......

Clue, NOBODY does.

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