• Re: AMD fTPM stuttering - Linux fixes it, AMD offers BIOS update, ASUS

    From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to Joel on Fri Dec 27 18:46:52 2024
    On 2024-12-27 16:39, Joel wrote:
    Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

    First, I am man enough to admit that I am wrong and I want to apologize
    to the people defending Linux. The people behind the operating system do
    sincerely care more about their users than the companies over on the
    Windows side.

    For those unaware, AMD has an issue with fTPM stuttering. If it is
    enabled, your desktop will periodically get sluggish performance (for
    about 3-4 seconds), an unresponsive mouse and keyboard, and corrupted
    audio. For an example, check out this short video:
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYnRL-x6DVI>. You can't predict when it
    will happen, it just does.

    The quick solution is to disable fTPM. A lot of motherboards allow you
    to do it. Another solution is to install a hardware TPM. AMD has also
    acknowledged the problem and provided a BIOS update manufacturers can
    make available to their users. If you have an affected desktop, the
    problem is therefore solved.

    Given that Windows and a lot of online multiplayer games now require
    TPM, disabling it entirely is a bad idea. You must therefore update or
    install a hardware TPM.

    For laptops however, you're at the mercy of the manufacturer. I have an
    ASUS and the company has acknowledged the problem. Nevertheless, they
    will do absolutely nothing about it. You can't disable fTPM in the BIOS,
    there is also no update. You can screw around with Windows and disable
    the TPM by rename TPM.sys, but Microsoft will likely reinstall it during
    the next update. Therefore, you have no choice but to live with it. If
    you edit videos or sound for a living, you're likely to often restart
    your work because this can happen randomly during the encoding process.

    Meanwhile, on the Linux side, Linus Torvalds simply decided that the
    problem, hwrng, might as well be disabled since it is useless anyway. As
    of kernel 6.2, Linux will detect whether you have a problematic BIOS and
    disable the feature. In other words, as long as you're using Linux, you
    won't experience this garbage.

    If you read what people online have to say, they are swearing not to buy
    AMD again. Meanwhile, they are disregarding that Intel has its own
    issues with the 13th and 14th generation processors crashing if used at
    their rated speeds
    <https://www.theverge.com/24216305/intel-13th-14th-gen-raptor-lake-cpu-crash-news-updates-patches-fixes-motherboards>.
    In other words, even the alternative is garbage. Additionally, Windows
    _still_ requires TPM and such issues might surface again with Intel for
    all that we know.

    I've made my decision and gone ahead with Fedora. I might face problems
    along the way, but I think that I have finally found the motivation to
    disregard or work through them.

    My apologies to all, once more.


    Welcome back, buddy.

    At this point, the migration back to Windows is not going to sound too appetizing. When you know that what's waiting for you on the other side
    is a heavier operating system which requires you to enable something
    that causes unpredictable stutters, you're a lot more likely to say
    "yeah... I'll just stay here for now."

    --
    Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
    Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch

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  • From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to Joel on Fri Dec 27 19:12:07 2024
    On 2024-12-27 19:02, Joel wrote:
    Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

    Welcome back, buddy.

    At this point, the migration back to Windows is not going to sound too
    appetizing. When you know that what's waiting for you on the other side
    is a heavier operating system which requires you to enable something
    that causes unpredictable stutters, you're a lot more likely to say
    "yeah... I'll just stay here for now."


    Windows is all about the latest and greatest hardware, it doesn't take
    long for a PC to become burdened with it, it's why I run Linux, of
    course my machine has the *ability* to run Win11, it just sucks,
    literally sucking away usefulness that could instead be put into Linux
    and its open-source library of apps. Am I missing Office and
    Photoshop? I guess, but they're bloatware too, so who cares. I'm
    liking software freedom.

    Most of what I routinely use is open-source anyway and/or available
    under Linux so there is no real attachment to Windows. I'm losing access
    to the movies I own on Microsoft Films & TV, but they're available to me
    over the Xbox anyway. I also don't feel like showing those movies to my students anymore, so I'm contenting myself with them not being
    accessible to me at all times on my laptop.

    --
    Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
    Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch

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  • From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to Joel on Fri Dec 27 20:49:46 2024
    On 2024-12-27 19:49, Joel wrote:
    Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

    Welcome back, buddy.

    At this point, the migration back to Windows is not going to sound too >>>> appetizing. When you know that what's waiting for you on the other side >>>> is a heavier operating system which requires you to enable something
    that causes unpredictable stutters, you're a lot more likely to say
    "yeah... I'll just stay here for now."

    Windows is all about the latest and greatest hardware, it doesn't take
    long for a PC to become burdened with it, it's why I run Linux, of
    course my machine has the *ability* to run Win11, it just sucks,
    literally sucking away usefulness that could instead be put into Linux
    and its open-source library of apps. Am I missing Office and
    Photoshop? I guess, but they're bloatware too, so who cares. I'm
    liking software freedom.

    Most of what I routinely use is open-source anyway and/or available
    under Linux so there is no real attachment to Windows. I'm losing access
    to the movies I own on Microsoft Films & TV, but they're available to me
    over the Xbox anyway. I also don't feel like showing those movies to my
    students anymore, so I'm contenting myself with them not being
    accessible to me at all times on my laptop.


    My computer is a work of art, Win11 clogs it up like laryngitis, Linux
    is sleek.

    I just found out that Linux has an alternative for Dolby Atmos. If you
    don't know what that is, it's an application which really makes your
    laptop's speakers (if you have decent ones) loud and clear. Without it,
    the volume is very low. It turns out that EasyEffects does the same
    thing and just happens to be open-source. I am very happy right now.

    --
    Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
    Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch

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  • From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to Joel on Fri Dec 27 21:33:33 2024
    On 2024-12-27 21:18, Joel wrote:
    Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

    I just found out that Linux has an alternative for Dolby Atmos. If you
    don't know what that is, it's an application which really makes your
    laptop's speakers (if you have decent ones) loud and clear. Without it,
    the volume is very low. It turns out that EasyEffects does the same
    thing and just happens to be open-source. I am very happy right now.


    My headphones are good enough that simple stereo sound is strong,
    without enhancing effects. It's one of the foundational parts of a
    computer build, to me, a motherboard with Realtek's audio gear.

    I remember the days when Realtek was synonymous with shit sound.

    --
    Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
    Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Andrzej Matuch on Sat Dec 28 02:42:04 2024
    On 2024-12-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
    On 2024-12-27 21:18, Joel wrote:
    Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

    I just found out that Linux has an alternative for Dolby Atmos. If you
    don't know what that is, it's an application which really makes your
    laptop's speakers (if you have decent ones) loud and clear. Without it,
    the volume is very low. It turns out that EasyEffects does the same
    thing and just happens to be open-source. I am very happy right now.


    My headphones are good enough that simple stereo sound is strong,
    without enhancing effects. It's one of the foundational parts of a
    computer build, to me, a motherboard with Realtek's audio gear.

    I remember the days when Realtek was synonymous with shit sound.

    It still is.


    --
    pothead

    "Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life"
    "Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican"

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