• Re: Joel gets a taste of reality

    From Alan@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Jan 1 14:14:01 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-01-01 13:58, Joel wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    https://www.sammobile.com/news/apples-latest-iphone-could-copy-from-samsung-for-a-change/


    See, even your overlords at Apple are admitting that Samsung beat them
    to the punch.

    Seriously: this is all you've got?

    There is a RUMOUR that Apple is doing something.

    And even then, all your source says is that Apple might be copying a
    NAMING CONVENTION.

    Even though using a single "E" isn't really the same as using "FE", and... >>
    ...Apple has had an iPhone with "SE" for the last nearly 9 years...

    ...when Samsung's "FE" lineup has only been around for a little more
    than 4 years.

    So to exactly what "punch" did Samsung beat Apple?


    I screwed up, actually, this phone isn't imitating Samsung.


    Fixed the subject for you.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Jan 1 14:59:42 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-01-01 14:39, Joel wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    https://www.sammobile.com/news/apples-latest-iphone-could-copy-from-samsung-for-a-change/


    See, even your overlords at Apple are admitting that Samsung beat them >>>>> to the punch.

    Seriously: this is all you've got?

    There is a RUMOUR that Apple is doing something.

    And even then, all your source says is that Apple might be copying a
    NAMING CONVENTION.

    Even though using a single "E" isn't really the same as using "FE", and... >>>>
    ...Apple has had an iPhone with "SE" for the last nearly 9 years...

    ...when Samsung's "FE" lineup has only been around for a little more
    than 4 years.

    So to exactly what "punch" did Samsung beat Apple?

    I screwed up, actually, this phone isn't imitating Samsung.

    Fixed the subject for you.


    And yet, if I had first examined the article correctly, it would make
    Apple showing *progress*, which is kind of funny since your defense is
    that *I* was wrong, just some guy online who can wrap my mind around
    why Apple does it the way it does. I mean, not in the sense of
    agreement, but in the sense of seeing that they are OK with being
    weird.


    "It would MAKE Apple showing progress"?

    I'm not going to bother with the rest of your gibberish.

    Dude, try again, but this time in English.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Jan 1 15:22:20 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-01-01 15:10, Joel wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    So to exactly what "punch" did Samsung beat Apple?

    I screwed up, actually, this phone isn't imitating Samsung.

    Fixed the subject for you.

    And yet, if I had first examined the article correctly, it would make
    Apple showing *progress*, which is kind of funny since your defense is
    that *I* was wrong, just some guy online who can wrap my mind around
    why Apple does it the way it does. I mean, not in the sense of
    agreement, but in the sense of seeing that they are OK with being
    weird.

    "It would MAKE Apple showing progress"?


    "It would mean that Apple was showing progress" is what I should have
    edited it to say.

    In what way would it mean that Apple was showing progress?

    Literally, all there is in the article is a rumour that Apple will be
    changing the NAME they use for a product.



    I'm not going to bother with the rest of your gibberish.

    Dude, try again, but this time in English.


    Oh gibberish, huh, unlike Apple's UI, heh. That's a great descriptor
    for it, malformed functions, inferior, and yet the Apple name sells
    these devices.
    What function(s) in Apple's is/(are) "malformed"?

    When you've put yourself in a huge hole...

    ...stop digging.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Jan 1 15:50:34 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-01-01 15:34, Joel wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    So to exactly what "punch" did Samsung beat Apple?

    I screwed up, actually, this phone isn't imitating Samsung.

    Fixed the subject for you.

    And yet, if I had first examined the article correctly, it would make >>>>> Apple showing *progress*, which is kind of funny since your defense is >>>>> that *I* was wrong, just some guy online who can wrap my mind around >>>>> why Apple does it the way it does. I mean, not in the sense of
    agreement, but in the sense of seeing that they are OK with being
    weird.

    "It would MAKE Apple showing progress"?

    "It would mean that Apple was showing progress" is what I should have
    edited it to say.

    In what way would it mean that Apple was showing progress?

    Literally, all there is in the article is a rumour that Apple will be
    changing the NAME they use for a product.


    I meant that if I had correctly read the article, the first time, I
    thought that this phone was going to add buttons to the UI, like
    Samsung has - how I came to that conclusion is a mystery, but I was
    high on drugs. However, as I suggested, if that were somehow true it
    would mean Apple had come around, and admitted their design sucks
    balls.

    1. No, that is NOT what you said at any time. Let me elucidate (and I'll
    wait a few minutes while you look that up):

    You're now claiming that when you wrote, "And yet, if I had first
    examined the article correctly, it would mean that Apple was showing
    progress".

    What you (apparently) meant to have said was:

    "And yet, if the article had said what I thought it did, it would mean
    that Apple was showing progress".

    So...

    2. If changing the UI is proof that the previous UI "sucks balls", then
    you should examine the fact that Android has switched its default UI for
    app switching to APPLE's UI for doing so: with gestures.





    I'm not going to bother with the rest of your gibberish.

    Dude, try again, but this time in English.

    Oh gibberish, huh, unlike Apple's UI, heh. That's a great descriptor
    for it, malformed functions, inferior, and yet the Apple name sells
    these devices.
    What function(s) in Apple's is/(are) "malformed"?

    When you've put yourself in a huge hole...

    ...stop digging.


    The lack of buttons.
    Are you still high?

    Because words have MEANINGS, and "malformed" doesn't match that.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Jan 1 16:33:00 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-01-01 15:58, Joel wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    So to exactly what "punch" did Samsung beat Apple?

    I screwed up, actually, this phone isn't imitating Samsung.

    Fixed the subject for you.

    And yet, if I had first examined the article correctly, it would make >>>>>>> Apple showing *progress*, which is kind of funny since your defense is >>>>>>> that *I* was wrong, just some guy online who can wrap my mind around >>>>>>> why Apple does it the way it does. I mean, not in the sense of
    agreement, but in the sense of seeing that they are OK with being >>>>>>> weird.

    "It would MAKE Apple showing progress"?

    "It would mean that Apple was showing progress" is what I should have >>>>> edited it to say.

    In what way would it mean that Apple was showing progress?

    Literally, all there is in the article is a rumour that Apple will be
    changing the NAME they use for a product.

    I meant that if I had correctly read the article, the first time, I
    thought that this phone was going to add buttons to the UI, like
    Samsung has - how I came to that conclusion is a mystery, but I was
    high on drugs. However, as I suggested, if that were somehow true it
    would mean Apple had come around, and admitted their design sucks
    balls.

    1. No, that is NOT what you said at any time. Let me elucidate (and I'll
    wait a few minutes while you look that up):

    You're now claiming that when you wrote, "And yet, if I had first
    examined the article correctly, it would mean that Apple was showing
    progress".

    What you (apparently) meant to have said was:

    "And yet, if the article had said what I thought it did, it would mean
    that Apple was showing progress".

    So...

    2. If changing the UI is proof that the previous UI "sucks balls", then
    you should examine the fact that Android has switched its default UI for
    app switching to APPLE's UI for doing so: with gestures.


    You specify it's a "default", obviously they are giving people the
    choice. I know what choice I would make.

    Way to miss the point!



    I'm not going to bother with the rest of your gibberish.

    Dude, try again, but this time in English.

    Oh gibberish, huh, unlike Apple's UI, heh. That's a great descriptor >>>>> for it, malformed functions, inferior, and yet the Apple name sells
    these devices.
    What function(s) in Apple's is/(are) "malformed"?

    When you've put yourself in a huge hole...

    ...stop digging.

    The lack of buttons.
    Are you still high?

    Because words have MEANINGS, and "malformed" doesn't match that.


    It's malformed *code* underlying the visible features on the screen - crafting a UI sans real controls, wasting people's time.
    It clearly has real controls, doofus.

    You may not like them, but it clearly has controls.

    So that's another failure for you.

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  • From Nick Charles@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Jan 3 00:45:47 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 1/1/2025 7:33 PM, Alan wrote:

    It's malformed *code* underlying the visible features on the screen -
    crafting a UI sans real controls, wasting people's time.
    It clearly has real controls, doofus.

    You may not like them, but it clearly has controls.

    So that's another failure for you.

    Sorry to interrupt your fun but...

    Do yourself a favor, Alan. Walk (or run) away from this. Joel is a
    nutbag who is constantly on drugs (as he said earlier), thinks he has a "girlfriend" even though the "girlfriend" is a man who wears a dress and
    makeup AND Joel thinks he (Joel) is Jesus.

    As I said, walk away. Don't expect to have a rational conversation with
    a drugged, delusional, insane person.

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