Anything is better than the perpetually buggy Thunderbird !

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On 21/07/2024 19:21 D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:

the best freeware newsreaders are 40tude Dialog and MicroPlanet Gravity;
both are full-featured, user-friendly, and fairly easy to setup and use, especially MicroPlanet Gravity which is also more up-to-date (2021-5-2):

(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/files/latest/download

(Setup-MPGravity-3.0.4.exe / 8.69 MB), extracted . . .
( / 2.19 MB / 15 Files, 0 Folders), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 5.64 MB / 12 Files, 2 Folders)
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(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm

The best newsreader app for Windows is Gravity. Thanks to the fact that its C++
source code was released by its original authors, MicroPlanet, it has been kept
alive on the Internet. (The MicroPlanet Gravity newsreader project lives here at
Sourceforge http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/.) After a 10-year hiatus (it was
last updated in 2010), I (Steve) decided to pick it up and keep it current. So,
GRC now offers the only still-working version of Gravity. I am independently >>maintaining the source and have published a signed executable and installer. >>You can find it here:
File stats for: Gravity Setup (v3.0.11)
file download https://www.grc.com/files/GravitySetup.zip

(GravitySetup.zip / 7.41 MB), extracted . . .
( / 7.57 MB / 3 Files, 0 Folders; "Gravity-v3.0.11-Setup.msi"), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 4.16 MB / 13 Files, 2 Folders)

File stats for: Gravity Update (v3.0.11)
file download https://www.grc.com/files/Gravity.exe

(Gravity.exe / 0.98 MB), . . .
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i've tested MicroPlanet Gravity in Windows 7 and 11, and it works great; (40tude Dialog also works fine, but alas it is much older "abandonware")

I find it ridiculous that the Gravity website doesn't have a single screenshot of their program.

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On 2024-07-22 03:47, Silver Skull wrote:

Anything is better than the perpetually buggy Thunderbird !

What is wrong with Thunderbird?

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:23:31 +0200, 1megameter <1megameter@meme-protocol.click> wrote:

On 2024-07-22 03:47, Silver Skull wrote:

Anything is better than the perpetually buggy Thunderbird !

What is wrong with Thunderbird?

seems the current most popular newsreader, thunderbird (betterbird etc.)
is problematic in ways that the far older classic 40tude dialog does not
have any problems with . . . other newsgroups have discussed issues with thunderbird at length, e.g. difficulties with scoring, dns prefetch, etc. dialog is far easier to install, use and maintain compared to any others, especially because it uses hamster scoring and an editable "filters.dat";
no other news reader is that user-friendly, not even mesnews, or gravity

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Silver Skull <silver.skull@nopsam.com> wrote:

Anything is better than the perpetually buggy Thunderbird !

I adore trn. After 35 years it's pure muscle memory, though, so YMMV.

And look, this version is even from the current millenium!

version: 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)

(Also I have no idea what it takes to run it locally -- I'm
posting from a shared server.)

--
Steven O'Neill steveo@panix.com
Hmm, but is that release date a reference to "eternity"?

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On 7/21/2024 1:21 PM, D wrote:

the best freeware newsreaders are 40tude Dialog and MicroPlanet Gravity;
both are full-featured, user-friendly, and fairly easy to setup and use, especially MicroPlanet Gravity which is also more up-to-date (2021-5-2):

(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/files/latest/download

(Setup-MPGravity-3.0.4.exe / 8.69 MB), extracted . . .
( / 2.19 MB / 15 Files, 0 Folders), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 5.64 MB / 12 Files, 2 Folders)
[end quoted excerpt]

(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm

The best newsreader app for Windows is Gravity. Thanks to the fact that its C++
source code was released by its original authors, MicroPlanet, it has been kept
alive on the Internet. (The MicroPlanet Gravity newsreader project lives here at
Sourceforge http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/.) After a 10-year hiatus (it was
last updated in 2010), I (Steve) decided to pick it up and keep it current. So,
GRC now offers the only still-working version of Gravity. I am independently >> maintaining the source and have published a signed executable and installer. >> You can find it here:
File stats for: Gravity Setup (v3.0.11)
file download https://www.grc.com/files/GravitySetup.zip

(GravitySetup.zip / 7.41 MB), extracted . . .
( / 7.57 MB / 3 Files, 0 Folders; "Gravity-v3.0.11-Setup.msi"), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 4.16 MB / 13 Files, 2 Folders)

File stats for: Gravity Update (v3.0.11)
file download https://www.grc.com/files/Gravity.exe

(Gravity.exe / 0.98 MB), . . .
[end quoted excerpt]

i've tested MicroPlanet Gravity in Windows 7 and 11, and it works great; (40tude Dialog also works fine, but alas it is much older "abandonware")

I'm currently posting from Betterbird.

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 19:31:56 -0400, Amy98 <a1998@mailfence.com> wrote:

On 7/21/2024 1:21 PM, D wrote:

the best freeware newsreaders are 40tude Dialog and MicroPlanet Gravity;
both are full-featured, user-friendly, and fairly easy to setup and use,
especially MicroPlanet Gravity which is also more up-to-date (2021-5-2):
(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/files/latest/download

(Setup-MPGravity-3.0.4.exe / 8.69 MB), extracted . . .
( / 2.19 MB / 15 Files, 0 Folders), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 5.64 MB / 12 Files, 2 Folders)
[end quoted excerpt]
(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm

The best newsreader app for Windows is Gravity. Thanks to the fact that its C++
source code was released by its original authors, MicroPlanet, it has been kept
alive on the Internet. (The MicroPlanet Gravity newsreader project lives here at
Sourceforge http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/.) After a 10-year hiatus (it was
last updated in 2010), I (Steve) decided to pick it up and keep it current. So,
GRC now offers the only still-working version of Gravity. I am independently
maintaining the source and have published a signed executable and installer.
You can find it here:
File stats for: Gravity Setup (v3.0.11)
file download https://www.grc.com/files/GravitySetup.zip

(GravitySetup.zip / 7.41 MB), extracted . . .
( / 7.57 MB / 3 Files, 0 Folders; "Gravity-v3.0.11-Setup.msi"), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 4.16 MB / 13 Files, 2 Folders)

File stats for: Gravity Update (v3.0.11)
file download https://www.grc.com/files/Gravity.exe

(Gravity.exe / 0.98 MB), . . .
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i've tested MicroPlanet Gravity in Windows 7 and 11, and it works great;
(40tude Dialog also works fine, but alas it is much older "abandonware")

I'm currently posting from Betterbird.

thunderbird and betterbird are certainly very popular

(using Tor Browser 13.5.3)
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html

1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)
3.References and useful links

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i've tested most of these extensively and still prefer 40tude dialog
over any other newsreader, including forte agent; but for "one-click"
newsgroup statistics xananews is also portable and works wonderfully

https://github.com/graemeg/xananews/releases/tag/v1.21

Release v1.21 Latest
graemeg released this Aug 22, 2017
xananews_32bit_v1.21.zip >https://github.com/graemeg/xananews/releases/download/v1.21/xananews_32bit_v1.21.zip

(xananews_32bit_v1.21.zip / 2.55 MB)

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On 10/09/2024 01:31 Amy98 <a1998@mailfence.com> wrote:

On 7/21/2024 1:21 PM, D wrote:

the best freeware newsreaders are 40tude Dialog and MicroPlanet Gravity;
both are full-featured, user-friendly, and fairly easy to setup and use,
especially MicroPlanet Gravity which is also more up-to-date (2021-5-2):

(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/files/latest/download

(Setup-MPGravity-3.0.4.exe / 8.69 MB), extracted . . .
( / 2.19 MB / 15 Files, 0 Folders), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 5.64 MB / 12 Files, 2 Folders)
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Why isn't there a single screenshot of Gravity on their website?

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On 10/09/2024 02:10 D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:

On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 19:31:56 -0400, Amy98 <a1998@mailfence.com> wrote:

On 7/21/2024 1:21 PM, D wrote:

the best freeware newsreaders are 40tude Dialog and MicroPlanet Gravity; >>> both are full-featured, user-friendly, and fairly easy to setup and use, >>> especially MicroPlanet Gravity which is also more up-to-date (2021-5-2): >>> (using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/files/latest/download

(Setup-MPGravity-3.0.4.exe / 8.69 MB), extracted . . .
( / 2.19 MB / 15 Files, 0 Folders), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 5.64 MB / 12 Files, 2 Folders)
[end quoted excerpt]
(using Tor Browser 13.5.1)
https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm

The best newsreader app for Windows is Gravity. Thanks to the fact that its C++
source code was released by its original authors, MicroPlanet, it has been kept
alive on the Internet. (The MicroPlanet Gravity newsreader project lives here at
Sourceforge http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/.) After a 10-year hiatus (it was
last updated in 2010), I (Steve) decided to pick it up and keep it current. So,
GRC now offers the only still-working version of Gravity. I am independently
maintaining the source and have published a signed executable and installer.
You can find it here:
File stats for: Gravity Setup (v3.0.11)
file download https://www.grc.com/files/GravitySetup.zip

(GravitySetup.zip / 7.41 MB), extracted . . .
( / 7.57 MB / 3 Files, 0 Folders; "Gravity-v3.0.11-Setup.msi"), installed . . .
( \Program Files (x86)\Microplanet\Gravity 3.0 / 4.16 MB / 13 Files, 2 Folders)

File stats for: Gravity Update (v3.0.11)
file download https://www.grc.com/files/Gravity.exe

(Gravity.exe / 0.98 MB), . . .
[end quoted excerpt]
i've tested MicroPlanet Gravity in Windows 7 and 11, and it works great; >>> (40tude Dialog also works fine, but alas it is much older "abandonware") >>>

I'm currently posting from Betterbird.

thunderbird and betterbird are certainly very popular

(using Tor Browser 13.5.3)
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html

1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)
3.References and useful links

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i've tested most of these extensively and still prefer 40tude dialog
over any other newsreader, including forte agent; but for "one-click" newsgroup statistics xananews is also portable and works wonderfully

I don't like 40tude being closed-source.

Why keep the source closed anyway when there are already so many
other FOSS newsreaders.

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